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Posted by FAPTurbo on 22 March 2016 - 03:39 PM

And Cheers and Gears recommends that it's readers actually read the article they posted before commenting on it.
CR recommends avoiding only the early versions of these electric cars. 
BTW, I'm sure you're really proud!!!
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ruh roh!!


And not one of C&G's rabid supporters of electric propulsion has come in here to say a word.  :)

They didn't have to because everyone else called out your silliness.
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Posted by Drew Dowdell on 22 March 2016 - 07:40 AM

And Cheers and Gears recommends that it's readers actually read the article they posted before commenting on it.


CR recommends avoiding only the early versions of these electric cars. 


BTW, I'm sure you're really proud!!!


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ruh roh!!

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#656857 Zoom?

Posted by Satty on 26 March 2011 - 08:42 PM

You can't keep a 3800 running, I doubt you'll get much use out of a rotary.
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#642019 The post rating system

Posted by Satty on 09 December 2010 - 07:16 AM

I don't like it. It's a way for immature cowards to hit and run with no consequence. This is a DISCUSSION forum.

No it isn't. Have you not been paying attention the last couple of years? It's a haven for people to bitch and moan about how not every car is a hardtop, or that every car isn't a coupe, or that every car isn't a Hyundai Sonata Turbo, or that Greenpeace is coming out at night and taking away trucks or some other such nonsense. That's not discussion, its whining.
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#785748 2016 McDonald's Mighty Angus Review by Suaviloquent

Posted by Suaviloquent on 10 March 2016 - 02:17 PM

Hello all, this is my first review ever of anything, and it's about a burger sold by the Golden Arches here in Canada as the mighty Angus. Angus....






So. Let's start with the presentation. Very nice exterior, classy lines, and I love the brown paint on the bun. The seed pattern is very stylized and reminds me of perforated leather.


It starts great, and it continues nicely. The lettuce was full of colour, clearly they thought of the rendering of the foliage and the colour saturation of the greens. But I'm not sure this is 4K, I'd say it's more of a judder-free 60hz 1080p.


Alright, so the sauce. very viscous, smoky sweet, probably some diesel soot colour. Probably some kind of heavy lubricant that needs to be warmed up to allow the bun and toppings to slide freely. It's a bit overbearing though, they need to taste-tune it so it is milder and less dominating the experience.


The grilled onions, excellent. I never thought a McDonald's burger would come with this luxury feature, but you know that's just what's happening in the industry, You're seeing trickle-down flavourtronics, and McDonald's is catching up to better burgers that cost less.


Tomato slice. I'm sorry, they advertise this is a massaging tomato for your tongue, but you know how it is, it's nothing like a real massager for your tongue. It just isn't possible at this price, it vibrates a little when you bite, but the viscous sauce probably reduces the sensation. You can't feel it.


However, the bacon bits are an affront to anyone who likes bacon. There's no replacement for displacement, and the bacon should have displaced MOAR OF LE BERGEUR. Inexcusable, for a CAD $7 burger. 


The Patty? Either it's unimpressive or the smoky sauce, again, dampened the experience. To me, it's just a bigger patty from the same cut. No excellence of execution for the patty. Too much flab, not enough magnetic tasty food control.


So, what is the total package you are getting?


I think this is a good burger, probably overpriced, but reliable as it's very time efficient. Time efficiency is like the "reliability" of fast food.


So, I give it a 7.2/10, would Trump again, but only if my Obama-Clintoncare Foodsurance paid for it with a $19 trillion dollar deductible.








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#779950 Cheers and Jeers for 2015

Posted by bobo on 01 January 2016 - 04:29 PM

At the beginning of the year, in the sports world, the New England Patriots were deemed cheaters with quarterback Tom Brady allegedly throwing underinflated balls in a playoff game against the Indianapolis Colts.  Two weeks later the Super Bowl closed with perhaps the worst call in the history of the game by the losing Seahawks.  In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that denying same-sex marriage was unconstitutional.  Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk, was made a hero by some marriage traditionalists by refusing to do her job in issuing same-sex marriages licenses and was sent to jail for it.  Lots of people got sick eating at Chipotle from an E.coli outbreak in July.  In September, it was Pope-apalooza as Pope Francis, whom the right wing cannot stand, visited Philadelphia.  Also in September, NASA declared that water once flowed on Mars.  Donald Trump emerged as the Republican frontrunner in presidential politics as a hapless Jeb Bush and other establishment candidates failed to gain traction.  The more Trump appealed to the lowest common denominator, the higher his ratings went.  In November, there were terror attacks by ISIS in France, followed by an attack by a radicalized murderous couple in San Bernardino, California, which shook the feeling of security on our own soil.  The year ended with a new Star Wars movie and Bill Cosby booked into jail on charges of sexual assault.


A few other notable people and things from 2015, provided with a minimum of comment:  Cecile the Lion, Caitlyn Jenner, Ashley Madison hacking, pharma douche Martin Shkreli, Back to the Future II predictions, spontaneously combustible hoverboards, and man buns.


Prominent passings included blues musician B.B. King, baseball player Yogi Berra, actor Leonard Nimoy, and on the last day of the year, singer Natalie Cole.


Some of the favorite topics on the C&G boards were the Camaro and Mustang rivalry, Cadillac’s declining sales numbers, and the wisdom of going to fully aluminum bodies for Ford pick-ups. Self-driving cars were mocked and extolled, Electric cars were mocked and extolled.  There was a large influx of new members from the Motor Trend boards, and they breathed new life into the forums.  The board platform was mostly stable this year, with just some obligatory server issues in September.


And now, here’s the 14th Annual Edition of Cheers and Jeers for the best and worst of C&G and the automotive industry from the past year:


Jeers to Volkswagen for the Worst Corporate Malfeasance for their “Clean Diesel” debacle.  While nobody was killed by VW’s surreptitiously polluting diesels, as compared to unrecalled vehicles with known defects, Dieselgate showed the casual contempt the company has for its customers.  It will be a long time before they will be able to redeem themselves.  http://www.cheersandgears.com/topic/85606-vw-news-epa-alleges-volkswagen-used-software-on-diesel-vehicles-to-skirt-clean-air-rules


Cheers to Tesla for the Most Awesomest Performance Sedan in their Model S P90D with Ludicrous Mode.  While Elon Musk has his detractors, and some resent the amount of government funding that Tesla has taken advantage of, there’s little denying that their vehicles are technological tour-de-forces or that their performance can rival supercars, with Motor Trend reporting a 0 to 60 mph time of 2.6 seconds and a quarter mile in 10.9 seconds for the Model S in Ludicrous Mode.  There was a lot of news out of Tesla this year, with the introduction of their new Model X crossover with falcon wing doors, attempt to break into the Michigan market with company-owned stores, breaking the Consumer Reports rating scale with a theoretical score of 103, and being dropped as a recommended buy by CR due to reliability concerns, though 97% of the owners would definitely rebuy the vehicle.  http://www.cheersandgears.com/topic/85352-tesla-announces-updates-to-the-model-s-including-ludicrous-acceleration-mode


Cheers to the Best Post by hyperv6 in bringing some measured thought into the discussion of the rising cost of the 2016 Camaro.  An excerpt:  “To be honest we pay a lot but we are getting cars today that can not compare to anything in the past content and quality wise. The Camaro here in question could take to a track and in street form out run many race cars from the pony era. Lets face it too that V6 here would out run most model Camaros from the 60's also out stopping and turning too.”  http://www.cheersandgears.com/topic/85511-trim-levels-pricing-configurator-for-16-camaro-revealed/?p=768496


Honorable Mention to Drew Dowdell in describing the underwhelming FWD Mercedes-Benz compacts:  “the name I coined for the CLA and GLA are Mercedes-Pretendz”



Cheers to Lincoln for the Best Naming Move in giving their upcoming sedan a real name, the storied Continental, instead of a jumbled mix of letters and numbers.  Alas, the Mk plus random letter nomenclature appears to be sticking around for the other vehicles besides the iconic Navigator.  How is MkX better than Aviator?  In other naming news, Cadillac dumps the name of its best-selling SRX for XT5, and Mercedes rechristened ML and GLK to GLE and GLC, the latter of which was last used by Mazda 30 years ago on the “Great Little Car” econobox in the lineage of the Mazda3.



Jeers to Lexus for the Worst Styling.  Lexus has taken their “L-finesse” to ghastly new extremes in their latest creased and folded vehicles, with the almost universally hated spindle grille becoming even more prominent.  Moltar calls the look “angry robot” in describing the new RX350.  http://www.cheersandgears.com/topic/84640-new-york-auto-show-2016-lexus-rx-comments


Dishonorable Mention to the contorted new Toyota Prius.



Cheers to GM for their continued weight loss in their new vehicles for better performance, handling, and economy.  For instance for Chevy, the new Camaro, Cruz, Volt, and Malibu have each lost between 200 and 300 pounds despite being vastly improved.


Cheers to Chevrolet for having the Best Mid-Size Pickup, in the Colorado.  The updated Toyota Tacoma was not able to meet the standard set by the Colorado  The new Duramax diesel makes that Colorado that much more compelling, and the sales numbers show the strength of having competitive product.


Jeers to Acura for being the Most Irrelevant Brand.  Their only vehicle worth considering is the MDX, and the new lackluster TLX was a lost opportunity.  The forthcoming $155,000 NSX weighing 3,800 pounds probably won’t do much for them.


Finally, Cheers to all the staff and members of C&G.  The strength of C&G is the quality of the members, and the new members have certainly been high quality.  Suaviloquent, oldshurst442, and others, including even Wings4Life, have added tremendously to the site.  Cheers to William Maley for his road test reviews, which are really coming on their own.  Cheers to all!


Hope everybody has a safe and healthy Happy New Year!


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#735989 Biggest one day stock drop due to auto Fire in Seattle Suburb

Posted by Intrepidation on 02 October 2013 - 10:56 PM

Leaving one to wonder just how easy is it for these electric auto's to catch on fire and possibly kill someone.


That's cute. Because vehicles carrying a payload of highly flammable fluids never catch fire.


Those last two links are especially incredible when you consider that they are related to electrical problems. In a GASOLINE powered vehicle you say? Clearly this is witchcraft and we should go back to horse drawn carriages.

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#719143 One Night Stands! :P

Posted by FAPTurbo on 20 December 2012 - 04:02 PM

I guess if I had to pick one night stand, it'd be this one:

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It's walnut AND on sale on Amazon!
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#706976 Industry News: Fisker: Can Someone Loan Us $150 Million?

Posted by Drew Dowdell on 17 August 2012 - 08:18 AM

I'm disappointed that any of the long timers here would wish a domestic car company, especially one with attractive and interesting designs, close up shop REGARDLESS of how they are powered.

Don't like the power train? Don't buy one... but don't wish them dead and then complain that GM only sells FWD, 4-cylinder, 4-door jellybeans.
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#690389 Aucun secteur de l'Automobile

Posted by fullmoon97 on 20 February 2012 - 08:07 AM

i am truly sorry that you lost a car that you really enjoyed and was actually a good car. but at the same time i find it hard to be sympathetic. you and me are the same age. ive been driving since i was 16 owned a car since i was 18 from 16 to 21(in 2 months) i have owned 1 car. from what i understand you have owned 7 or 8 cars? this sounds like poor choices were made along the way. ones that could have been fixed. i went into college right out of high school and tried to ensure my future before spending big on big deal cars. you and me cant be picky about the car we get. listen to Pervez try and find some classes try to set a future for yourself before you spend money you don't have. the amazing thing about classes is after you finish a couple you can start doing an internship, and internships are the doorways into jobs, jobs = money, and money = nice things. just trying to help.
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#626941 Un F-ing Believable

Posted by Camino LS6 on 06 October 2010 - 07:36 AM

Sometimes you just have to do what's right and sort the rest out later.
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#579072 Man Destroys Home With Bulldozer

Posted by Drew Dowdell on 21 February 2010 - 08:56 AM

This guy is a common criminal.

I would argue that the bank is the criminal here. The man destroyed his own property. It's crazy, but it's not illegal. The bank doesn't own it (yet).

The man owed $160k to the bank. The bank received $170k offer for the property. The bank got greedy and said no since they felt they could probably sell a $350k house for $250k and make $90k profit on it. THE BANK SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO FORECLOSE ON THE PROPERTY JUST BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY CAN MAKE A PROFIT ON IT. In fact, I think the bank should probably be put under investigation and ALL of it's foreclosure proceedings put on hold.

I've read story after story of people having foreclosure proceedings started against them despite their willingness and renewed ability to pay or that they've found a buyer who would pay off the loan. I've heard of banks foreclosing on the wrong house. There was a couple in Florida who got foreclosed on..... who paid for their house in cash. Never even HAD a mortgage. The bank sent someone to their house who cleaned out all their stuff, hauled it away, and then bolted the doors.

The banks deserve ZERO benefit of the doubt here.

This guy may be crazy... but at least he's thinking. The banks are mindless zombies.
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#570907 Detroit 2010: Cadillac XTS Platinum Concept

Posted by Camino LS6 on 17 January 2010 - 12:54 PM

Let me distill my objections to the car down to basics:

- Its EPII underpinnings trash the proportions

- It was touted as a flagship, but clearly isn't.

- It was touted as being inspired by the Sixteen, to which it bears no resemblence.

- The footwell intrusion is inexcusable, especially in a car of this size.

- It was intended to replace not one, but two, exisitng cars - it replaces one.

- It does nothing to move the brand forward beyond its current template.

Still rates a 5 out of 10 in my book.
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#566539 stop the bs

Posted by Drew Dowdell on 02 January 2010 - 10:40 AM

Toyota has been getting "government bailouts" from Tokyo for decades in the form of government healthcare and a manipulated, artificially low Yen.

Toyota had more recalled vehicles than any other manufacturer this year.

Ford and Buick are doing great in reliability surveys.

so... yeah.
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#785334 Cmicasa the Great Presents:Meet "Rose..." My new 640HP 2016 Cadillac...

Posted by Cmicasa the Great on 03 March 2016 - 07:28 PM




This is her.. at the dealership prep area. Actual pics from me will follow on a bright sunny day.. which sucks because I am hearing my area is set to get some snow tonight. Either way.. she is loaded to the tee.. all options.. none spared. From Recaros, to PDR, to HUD, to Ultraview, to Midnight wheels and Carbon Fiber package.. Looking forward to the Spring and Summer runs



CARBON FIBER PACKAGE includes Carbon Fiber hood vent, spoiler, front splitter and rear diffuser (Included with (PCI) Crystal White Frost Limited Edition Package. Not available with (C43) Base Splitter (No Charge) or (R6G) No Splitter.) (CFZ)
GAS GUZZLER TAX mandatory federal tax added to price of vehicle (R8E)
SUNSHADE, POWER, REAR WINDOW (Included and only available when (Y40) Luxury Package is ordered.) (DB3)
WHEELS, 19" X 9.5" (45.7 CM X 24.1 CM) FRONT, 19" X 10" (45.7 CM X 25.4 CM) REAR, AFTER MIDNIGHT PREMIUM PAINTED FINISH (Included with (PCI) Crystal White Frost Limited Edition Package.) (Q8O)
SUNROOF, ULTRAVIEW, POWER (Requires (Y40) Luxury Package.) (C3U)
RED OBSESSION TINTCOAT (Available at extra charge.) (G7E)
LICENSE PLATE BRACKET, FRONT (will be forced on orders with ship-to states that require a front license plate) (VK3)
LUXURY PACKAGE includes (CJ4) tri-zone automatic climate control, (AM9) rear split-folding seat with armrest, (KA6) heated rear seats, (DB3) rear window power sunshade, (DE8) rear side window manual sunshades and (KI6) 110V power receptacle (Included with (PCI) Crystal White Frost Limited Edition Package.) (Y40)
CALIPERS, RED BREMBO (Not available with (J6J) Dark Gold Brembo calipers.) (J6F)
ENGINE, 6.2L (376 CI) SUPERCHARGED V8 DI VARIABLE VALVE TIMING (VVT) ALUMINUM with Active Fuel Management (640 hp [477.2 kW] @ 6400 rpm, 630 lb-ft of torque [854.2 N-m] @ 3600 rpm) (STD) (LT4)
SEAT, REAR SPLIT-FOLDING with armrest, lockable seatback and lockable rear pass-through access door (Included and only available when (Y40) Luxury Package is ordered.) (AM9)
LPO, FLOOR MATS, PREMIUM CARPETED (Included with (PCN) Summer/Winter Mat Package, LPO. Not available separately with (PCN) Summer/Winter Mat Package, LPO.) (VYW)
SEATS, RECARO PERFORMANCE (Requires interior color (HG6) Jet Black with Jet Black accents, (HG8) Light Platinum with Jet Black accents or (HG9) Jet Black with Saffron accents. Not available with 4-way adjustable front head restraints, manual thigh support or (KB6) ventilated driver and front passenger seats.) (W2E)
SUNSHADES, MANUAL, REAR SIDE WINDOWS (Included and only available when (Y40) Luxury Package is ordered.) (DE8)
RECEPTACLE, POWER, 110V (Included and only available when (Y40) Luxury Package is ordered.) (KI6)
SEATS, HEATED REAR OUTBOARD SEATING POSITIONS (Included and only available when (Y40) Luxury Package is ordered.) (KA6)
PREFERRED EQUIPMENT GROUP includes standard equipment (2SV)
CLIMATE CONTROL, TRI-ZONE AUTOMATIC (Included and only available when (Y40) Luxury Package is ordered.) (CJ4)

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