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Posted 14 August 2009 - 06:27 PM

Pontiac had a fantastic vinyl in the '60s they called Morrokide- mine has often been confused with leather (tho I can tell the diff), and it wears incredibly well decades later. Great stuff- don't kno why they changed to something else, but by the early '70s it was notably downgraded.

Posted 14 August 2009 - 03:16 PM

QUOTE (Dodgefan @ Aug 14 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thing is that newer Benzes aren't as well engineered as your old Benz either.


I tend to really agree with you.

Certainly they are fine cars.....having been in plenty of them......but none of the newer Benzes tend to have that rock-solid feel.....the chassis that made it feel like a complete tank, but that actually drove well.....the interior plastics and leather that felt tough as nails....but somehow luxurious because of the attention to detail.....(no one has been able to make vinyl feel as luxurious somehow as Benz with the old MB Tex...LOL)

In regards to the two Germans.....I tend to be a fan of older Benzs....and newer Bimmers......

Posted 14 August 2009 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (YellowJacket894 @ Aug 11 2009, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what? I really need to get back into writing stuff like this again. If I can yank 4 pages worth of responses -- both positive and negative -- out of people, then I think I'm doing my job here.

And I'm going to bash the L-Bodies, like I intended to.



Yeah....you can bash the L's.....but you could do that to almost all of GM's entries during that time period.

I had a Beretta once.....I forget what year, but it was when I was working at GM......it was one of the later years.....new interior, 2.8V6, 5-speed......base model but ordered up with the engine and things like the sunroof, etc......I even remember the Eagle GA tires (!) were like a $70 option......

I remember liking the car.....the base exterior, without all the GT model add-ons seemed pretty to me....and the redesigned interior was light-years ahead of the absolute shitty interior they first introduced the cars with....

BUT.....the car was an absolute piece of $h!. I don't ever remember having another car in my life that, in the year I owned the Beretta, had as many problems as mine did. One.....thing....after....another.....mechanical, flaking paint, you name it.

My best friend in college also had a Beretta for awhile.....a GTZ....and he had just as bad of a time reliability-wise as I did.....



Posted 14 August 2009 - 03:10 PM

Thing is that newer Benzes aren't as well engineered as your old Benz either.

Posted 14 August 2009 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE (smk4565 @ Mar 7 2009, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But a 1970s S-class could do 120 mph with the inline 6, or 130 mph with the V8, and up to 140 mph with the 6.9 liter V8. But what does it matter what Mercedes built in the 60's and 70's when the Cimarron was an 80's car? Mercedes has always had a solid reputation for tank-like well engineered cars, they had it in 1909 and still have it in 2009. Cadillac doesn't have the reputation now that they did 50 or 100 years ago because of junk like the Cimarron, Catera, and old geezer sedans of the 80s and 90s.


VERY good and true post re: Mercedes' heritage......and Cadillac's......

As much as I love my CTS......I simply was astounded that when I had my 1994 E320 Cabriolet with 100,000 miles STILL felt more solid, tight, rattle-free, and had a much smoother, quieter, and more energetic engine than my Caddy.....

UGH....

And I'm a big fan, still, of my CTS at 50,000 miles......but it's nowere nearly as well engineered as that old Benz......truth be told.....

Posted 11 August 2009 - 02:48 AM

QUOTE (YellowJacket894 @ Aug 11 2009, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what? I really need to get back into writing stuff like this again. If I can yank 4 pages worth of responses -- both positive and negative -- out of people, then I think I'm doing my job here.

And I'm going to bash the L-Bodies, like I intended to.

DO ITTTTT!! Just seeing *ahem* certain members get their fangirl panties all in a knot makes it worth it.

Posted 11 August 2009 - 01:32 AM

You know what? I really need to get back into writing stuff like this again. If I can yank 4 pages worth of responses -- both positive and negative -- out of people, then I think I'm doing my job here.

And I'm going to bash the L-Bodies, like I intended to.

Posted 22 March 2009 - 11:25 PM

Heh ... interesting about that Caddy. Funny thing is ... a couple weekends ago, I was out driving and spotted one of 'em. As I came up behind it, I originally thought it was a Cavalier. But, then, I got up closer ... and sure enough, it had the Caddy name and badging. Got up along side it to turn right ... and was surprised ... it was in decent shape....



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to irrrevocably tie the current Cadillac product with a 30-yr old entry-level


But, doesn't GM do a good bit of that ... by using older nameplates on new cars that are no where near what the originals were? The Malibu, Monte Carlo and Impala come to mind, particularly by way of taking the Celebrity, replacing it with the Lumina but allowing people to believe it replaced the MC since the Lumina was used in NASCAR ... and then naming the 1995 Lumina coupe "monte carlo" and the 2000 Lumina sedan "impala"....

According to the book _Chevrolet: The Complete History_ [copyright 1996 by Publications International LTD], on page 348: "With the new Lumina coupe and sedan effectively replacing their Celebrity counterparts...." And, on page 359: "Taking the place of the aging Celebrity sedan was the Lumina sedan ... a coupe version followed in the fall."

Also, the Lumina shared types (Eurosport), dashboards (flat/horizontal), tail lights (3 square on each side, across the back panel, more or less) and FWD with the Celebrity.....

In addition ... the Monte Carlo was the only one of the cousin names (Buick Regal, Olds Cutlass Supreme, Pontiac Grand Prix) to NOT be slapped on a FWD car IMMEDIATELY after the RWD versions ended in 1987/1988.

*shrugs*



QUOTE (YellowJacket894 @ Mar 12 2009, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Heh ... interesting stuff there.



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Posted 18 March 2009 - 07:37 PM

Funny, my first car was almost a 86 Cim.....



And My Js were pretty good...besides the rust....

Posted 17 March 2009 - 02:23 PM

I wouldn't even consider the STS to be anywhere near the same league. It's flawed yes, but it's a proper RWD performance luxury car.

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