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Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:09 PM

I assume there is a screen between those pods ala Cruze?

Posted 28 September 2010 - 04:43 PM

Okay, just saw the renderings of the exterior for the first time and gagged a little bit. I surely hope they're off. They seem to at least be slightly off with the taillamps as in the camo'd pics it shows amber directionals but in the rendering they're solid red.

I love the exterior of the current Malibu--easily one of the best-looking midsizers out there. I just hope they don't Mazda3 it (i.e. ruin it).


The renderings so far have not been really close. As they uncover the car the parts that are seen have been better than rendered.

I think the rear end is where the most work was needed and they are addressing it. The real mystery is the center of the trunk lid. It is yet to be uncovered ans show it true lines.

Posted 28 September 2010 - 11:04 AM

Okay, just saw the renderings of the exterior for the first time and gagged a little bit. I surely hope they're off. They seem to at least be slightly off with the taillamps as in the camo'd pics it shows amber directionals but in the rendering they're solid red.

I love the exterior of the current Malibu--easily one of the best-looking midsizers out there. I just hope they don't Mazda3 it (i.e. ruin it).

Posted 28 September 2010 - 04:37 AM

I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic here. I hope its the latter.


You left out one....Insane.

Posted 27 September 2010 - 08:45 PM

I think GM should just save time, and not even make a new Malibu and forfeit the segment to the Sonata, king of all mid-sizers. The Sonata is on pace to make up 50% of all new car sales by 2020, and studies suggest that driving a Sonata may cure cancer.


I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic here. I hope its the latter.

Posted 27 September 2010 - 08:38 PM

I think GM should just save time, and not even make a new Malibu and forfeit the segment to the Sonata, king of all mid-sizers. The Sonata is on pace to make up 50% of all new car sales by 2020, and studies suggest that driving a Sonata may cure cancer.

Posted 27 September 2010 - 08:26 PM

but the funny thing is Hyundai's turbo is not supposed to have much of an mpg penalty vs. the non turbo


A turbocharged engine's main source of fuel economy penalty comes from the reduction in compression ratio. If the compression ratio is no lower than the NA engine or is insignificantly lower the fuel economy impact is minimal. Whatever disadvantage remains comes from having a relatively restrictive exhaust and short, fat, intake runners without resonance tuning.

If you really want to build the most fuel efficient turbocharged engine, you stick to a compression of about 10.2~10.7:1 and run rather mild boost levels of 10.3~13.2 psi. You'll make a decent 100~110 lb-ft/liter. The power output will depend largely on how you skew the torque plateau. If you want something that comes on strong at 1600~1800 rpm, it'll probably be about 100~105hp/liter. If you push the plateau to the right by about 1000 rpm (using a bigger turbo with the same low boost levels) you can hit about 120~130 hp/liter. Such an engine will reach maximum torque at about 2600~2800 rpm and hold it to about 6600 rpm. It won't be a Lancer Evo ad it might be a little soft off the line, but it'll be perfectly competitive with a 3 liter class V6.

Having said that, I'll wait for official EPA numbers before passing judgment on the Sonata's turbo four. As the Cruze's EPA numbers show, the manufacturer's estimates can sometimes be a little "optimistic".

Posted 27 September 2010 - 07:21 PM

Can we add this to the list of emoticons, please?

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 07:18 PM

The new corporate standard issue steering wheel is a great improvement over the overtly crude one in the current Malibu. The dash and the rest of the interior isn't as clean as I like them to be -- too many unnecessary lines, too many curves that don't flow together.

The biggest flaw of the Malibu however is the lack of headroom. If the new car gains an inch of cabin height, or life they drop the seat cushions lower by an inch it'll help sway a lot of buyers.

Power train wise, the 182hp 2.4 liter DI 4-potter is OK. Not best in class, but for the kind of buyers it is targeting it is good enough. Only two types of people buy the 4-pot cars -- people who don't really care about the engine and people who care more about fuel economy than performance.

I am split on whether the up level cars should be a V6 or a Turbo-4. A 312hp DI VVT V6 is actually class leading and it will appeal to both the performance crowd and the smooth motor crowd. With the turbo four, you get better economy numbers. But if it is the 220hp/258lb-ft version, that is sort of a step backwards compared to today's 252hp six. If its the 255hp/295lb-ft version, on the same perch as the Regal GS. Plus, the turbo fours drink Premium.

Personally, I'll go with a I4 + V6 lineup. If not anything because that is different from Buick's options.


but the funny thing is Hyundai's turbo is not supposed to have much of an mpg penalty vs. the non turbo

Posted 27 September 2010 - 06:27 PM

I would rather have a turbo 4 but mostly to save weight and allow for better handling. Either way, atleast the Regal has the option.

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