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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:08 PM

I don't know if anyone could afford a Suburban with enough light weight materials in it to make a 1/2 ton. The one thing that will help is that they and the Tahoe are not selling like they used too as many people have down sized. At least they would not be large numbers in the past.

As for the 1/2 ton GM will keep it around even if they have to make it out of tin foil. Too much profit and too many sales to even hint at removing it.

While the Duramax may someday be accepted by the general buyer it has yet to spark a great desire and you can't put all the chips on that one. I agree it should be offered but I expect GM will offer the TT turbo that is coming in the trucks at some point. They have the power they have a flat strong torque curve and Ford has proven if you build it people will come and even pay $1000 more to save one gallon.

Also the new DI V8 will improve MPG and Torque so it will still be viable but any MPG even one MPG will be taken any way they can get it.

It will be interesting to see what GM did to cut weight on the next Gen 1/2 ton. Some are saying it will take a large drop in weight but give up nothing in towing or hauling. This should really be a help and will only ge step one to the future as they find ways to cut more weight. The Cost vs pounds will be difficult in the trucks as the price prevents ease as it can be done in a higher price Caddy.

Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:02 PM

hyperv6 I would agree with you on the alignment of GM's vehicles to better compete with what is out there rather than being in an ackward mid spot. I do not think they actually have to change size as much as just market it to let people know what they are competing against.

In regards to the Suburban, I think both 1/2 and 3/4 ton versions can survive, but we will have to push the use of Lightweigth High strength steel and composites. Plus I think you could better use the Hybrid technology in the Tahoe by putting it into a Suburban.

Over all, They could realy extend the life and have a LARGE pick up in sales if thy gave us our 4.8 L Duramax with 6 speed Allison tranny in a Suburban. Ton's of people who pull RV's, horse trailers, etc would love to get a new Suburban with a diesel.

Posted 29 March 2012 - 04:45 PM

The Suburban will survive but it may only get a 3/4 ton rating. The regs are more lax with the larger trucks.

I would like to see the Travere get more Explorer sized. To me at times it is almost too long. The Nox is perfect for passengers as it has a lot of passenger room and there is no back seat in class bigger. Now they so need to address cargo space. I would like to see it get lighter and add a little more cargo room in the back. If they could move the side panels out more or make the floor deeper.

The Edge has a good popular size but I feel Chevy could beat Ford on price since the Edge is already about $10K more than an similar optioned Nox.

As for the Flex that one will die soon. Sales are tanking with higher gas prices, the cost to buy and the new Explorer coming out. 40K-50K is just too much for a station wagon. Unless it is the CTS V.

GM needs to better lineup all their models to better compete. Being the odd man out sometimes works but other times hurts. The Nox and Terrain are two that worked out but too often it hurts,

GM's Ace is value as many of their new models are class leading or near class leading and often cheaper or better optioned than the compitition.

Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:35 PM

If any will survive, it will be the Escalade (even if just in spirit but not name) for as long as there is a Suburban.

Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:30 PM

I don't think the Suburban/Tahoe will die off totally, but the numbers will drop. The Expedition has faded away, I can see that being gone in 10 years, does Toyota even make the Sequioa anymore? These huge trucks will become a thing of the past, similar to how the Town Car and Crown Victoria's time had come to an end. I do think that the Tahoe/Suburban will survive in a niche role for those that need towing or hauling ability of a truck. But the Navigators and Escalades of the world I can see being changed to a unibody crossover in the name of fuel economy.

Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:17 AM

I'd hate to see the day where the Suburban gets killed off. Surely there will always be a market for this SUV, even if it dipped to Corvette numbers I'd hope Chevy would have the sense to keep it alive.

Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:58 AM

Chevy does need a small SUV, as they do sell, especially to female buyers. The Equinox is more of a mid-size, and the Traverse a full size. They will need that small SUV to round out the line up, especially in the future because the Suburban/Tahoe may survive, but I could see vehicles like that dying off in the 2020s.


I have to disagree, we will not see them die off as much as they get reduced to a niche player. Way to many needs that the Suburban/tahoe line handles that smaller SUV/CUV's cannot do.

Posted 29 March 2012 - 06:25 AM

Chevy does need a small SUV, as they do sell, especially to female buyers. The Equinox is more of a mid-size, and the Traverse a full size. They will need that small SUV to round out the line up, especially in the future because the Suburban/Tahoe may survive, but I could see vehicles like that dying off in the 2020s.

Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:53 PM

you can tell they are related, but even the greenhouses and details are different, so I don't think it would be a blatant rebadge...I'd say go for it and see how it does...probably better than many people might think...

Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:18 PM

Needless to say, I found the Edge to be much more comfortable than the Nox. The current Nox is a bit too small, and am sorry to see its shrinking more. I actually preferred the 1st gens.

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