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Posted 21 January 2011 - 02:51 PM

The styling is evolutionary, but I think if you compare it side-by-side to the previous gen the difference will be very substantial. This new Civic is far more curvy and stylish than the previous. It makes the old one look like a brick. I really like the deep contour line that runs down the side, and the design overall flows much better.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 03:00 PM

I think i would have to compare it to a current SI sedan to see how different they look. i would also like to see if the base model styling of the concept does not look boring like the current model.
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 04:49 PM

yawwwwnnnnn
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 07:03 PM

What's funny is when Toyota pulled this same stunt on the new Corolla (new facias, some side flair on the same damn car), you guys justifiably crucified them for it.

Now imagine GM did new facias refreshed interior on the Cobalt...what would the reaction be then?
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 08:16 PM

What's funny is when Toyota pulled this same stunt on the new Corolla (new facias, some side flair on the same damn car), you guys justifiably crucified them for it.

Now imagine GM did new facias refreshed interior on the Cobalt...what would the reaction be then?


The difference here is that the civic looks much better now, the Corolla looks worse, and Honda added some definition to the sides and gave the greenhouse a similar but more sporty rake.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 05:59 AM

They have not abandoned compact coupe buyers as GM and Ford did (and Dodge, a long time ago). For that, they will be rewarded.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:00 AM

They have not abandoned compact coupe buyers a every other manufacturer has. For that, they will be rewarded.


Fixed.

Mitsubishi has even announced the termination of the Eclipse now.

The only compact coupes left are the Civic and Forte.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:20 AM

Well, the Eclipse is a 2+2 sports car, not in the same class. Mitsu does not have the money to give us a proper Eclipse as it was in the 90's.

Don't forget the tC, the new one is tougher looking and better than the old, bland one.

Also, with my comments here, I am trying to show my affinity toward the domestics. There was a very good percentage of Cobalt coupes sold. Where will those customers go? They will go somewhere. GM has nothing for them. Chevrolet should have a small, sporty coupe as a stepping stone to the Camaro.

This whole idea that coupes need to be expensive halo cars does not wash with me.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:24 AM

You're right, I did forget the TC.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:32 AM

There is also a more macho, better-proportioned Volkswagen Beetle on the way.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:35 AM

I guess the sales just aren't strong enough to support coupes anymore beyond performance and luxury niches. Compact, midsize and full size 2dr versions of sedans are pretty much all gone. The mainstream 'personal luxury' coupe niche is gone w/ the demise of the Monte Carlo and Solara. Other than the Wrangler, 2dr SUVs are gone.

Sad.

Edited by Cubical-aka-Moltar, 22 January 2011 - 09:36 AM.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 12:23 PM

Supposedly there's also a Jetta coupe coming (unless I'm mistaken). That I think could make me forgive all the sedan's shortcomings, especially if it looks like a baby A5.

As for Dodge, they gave up the coupe market when the first gen Neon was replaced, however with Fiat in the mix, and their acess to a variety of small vehicles and platforms, maybe we will see a coupe or 3-door. I'll just be happy with a good looking sedan at this point.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 01:23 PM

What's funny is when Toyota pulled this same stunt on the new Corolla (new facias, some side flair on the same damn car), you guys justifiably crucified them for it.


Both Honda and Toyota created evolutionary upgrades to their successful Corolla and Civic. GM creates an entirely different compact with a brand new name every generation so that buyers don't associate it with previous models. Now, who's pulling the stunts? ;-]

While Toyota's upgrade to the Corolla made it look even more pedestrian, Honda's upgrade to the Civic (from the looks of it) makes it look more stylish and less pedestrian. This upgrade will probably boost Honda's share of the compact market. It's perfect timing as gas prices are starting to spike again. I have a feeling I'm going to have a hard time wheeling and dealing to get me one of these this Spring/Summer. :-[
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 02:01 PM

I guess the sales just aren't strong enough to support coupes anymore beyond performance and luxury niches. Compact, midsize and full size 2dr versions of sedans are pretty much all gone. The mainstream 'personal luxury' coupe niche is gone w/ the demise of the Monte Carlo and Solara. Other than the Wrangler, 2dr SUVs are gone.

Sad.


Honda still has the Accord coupe and Nissan has the Altima coupe.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 02:10 PM

Both of which are worthy (the Datsun less so, with rather unfortunate styling). I'd love to see a new Sentra/200SX coupe with SE-R availability to reclaim the magic of the first SE-R... which itself was a credible attempt to reclaim the magic of the 60's 510.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 02:39 PM

I quite liked the Accord coupe up until the refresh. The changes they made to it make it look much worse IMHO.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 03:07 PM

"My" 2011 Accord EX coupe manual: $25,700 with foglamps and bodyside moldings. Blue with black interior. Snazzy!
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:09 PM

I guess the sales just aren't strong enough to support coupes anymore beyond performance and luxury niches. Compact, midsize and full size 2dr versions of sedans are pretty much all gone. The mainstream 'personal luxury' coupe niche is gone w/ the demise of the Monte Carlo and Solara. Other than the Wrangler, 2dr SUVs are gone.

Sad.


If GM is to justify with a business plan, something like a Camaro, then they can't cannibalize it with too many other 2 doors within their own walls. Note how the Monte died when the Camaro came back.

Another evolution is the fact that something like a Camaro actually is a luxury coupe nowadays, with its level of kit and refinement and price.

So in a limited market, there can be only be so many offerings, or all (or most) of them fail to add to the bottom line.

I'll be surprised if the Accord and Altima coupes survive. We may still have the Scion Tc, and the Forte Koups of the world. The Koreans might be the only ones who will be able to proliferate body styles in the future.

And of course, the Germans, who seem to make endless versions of their models, seemingly without regard to demand (X6 as an example).

Just curious to know if the "Accord" crosstour outsells the "Accord coupe"...that'd be all you need to know there.....

Edited by regfootball, 23 January 2011 - 11:13 PM.

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Posted 17 November 2011 - 11:46 PM

Still ugly....even months later....
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