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    2016 Buick Envision to Start In the Low $40,000s

    How much for a 2016 Envision?

    When the Buick Envision hits dealers in June, you'll only be able to get it in the two highest trims, along with a turbo engine and all-wheel drive. We first learned about this back at the Detroit Auto Show when speaking with a Buick representative and now we have more details.

     

    According to Automotive News, the 2016 Envision will start at $42,995 for the Premium I trim and $45,635 for the Premium II trim. Both prices include destination. These models will feature a 2.0 turbocharged four-cylinder with 252 horsepower and all-wheel drive.

     

    Now if those prices scare you, don't fret. The 2016 Envision will only be sold between June and October. After that, the 2017 Envision will arrive at dealers with an expanded lineup with three other trims. Prices for the 2017 model will begin at $34,990 for the base model. The base and other two trims - Preferred and Essence - will get a 2.5L four-cylinder with 197 horsepower. Expect a choice of front or all-wheel drive for these models.

     

    We'll have more details when Buick officially announces Envision pricing hopefully in the near future.

     

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)


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    The Jaguar F-Pace is also going to offer a 550 HP supercharged V8 option, although I am sure at a steep price.

    You can get a 310 HP V6 Cadillac XT5 cheaper than a 252 HP 4-cylinder Buick Envision. That is a no brainer. I think that GM thinks Buick is on par with Lincoln, Acura, And Lexus, but I don't see people paying $42k for a Buick crossover when the Lexus is actually cheaper.

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    35k for 197hp.. Bargain of the year right there. Probably less tq too as it's a n/a 4cyl. 

     

    I guess I'm finding it harder and harder to make a case to buy this thing.

     

    Upon initial release I was pretty excited as a smaller premium CUV is kind of up my ally for a next vehicle but at 40k it is still a sub 200hp vehicle and I won't drive a vehicle that size with less than 200hp and 200tq. I'm just not finding anything that makes me want it over the competition. 

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    The Buick Envision will sell to those that see Cadillac as too expensive and an old persons auto. They want a family luxury CUV and this fits that image. I can see families buying this rather than a Cadillac.

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    35k for 197hp.. Bargain of the year right there. Probably less tq too as it's a n/a 4cyl. 

     

    I guess I'm finding it harder and harder to make a case to buy this thing.

     

    Upon initial release I was pretty excited as a smaller premium CUV is kind of up my ally for a next vehicle but at 40k it is still a sub 200hp vehicle and I won't drive a vehicle that size with less than 200hp and 200tq. I'm just not finding anything that makes me want it over the competition.

    I doubt though that anyone is cross shopping a Buick with a Jaguar, with a few exceptions of course. This is aimed at Acura, Lexus, and Lincoln.

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    35k for 197hp.. Bargain of the year right there. Probably less tq too as it's a n/a 4cyl. 

     

    I guess I'm finding it harder and harder to make a case to buy this thing.

     

    Upon initial release I was pretty excited as a smaller premium CUV is kind of up my ally for a next vehicle but at 40k it is still a sub 200hp vehicle and I won't drive a vehicle that size with less than 200hp and 200tq. I'm just not finding anything that makes me want it over the competition.

    I doubt though that anyone is cross shopping a Buick with a Jaguar, with a few exceptions of course. This is aimed at Acura, Lexus, and Lincoln.

     

    You are absolutely correct. But does that make the Buick overpriced or the Jag a bargain ? (excluding their reliability because we agree that is an issue - out of warranty)

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    Oh just gag me with the base 2.5.... it doesn't belong in the ATS and it doesn't belong here.

     

    Use the 1.6T, it has the same total horsepower with a much more agreeable torque curve.  Probably would beat the 2.5 on MPGs too....

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    35k for 197hp.. Bargain of the year right there. Probably less tq too as it's a n/a 4cyl. 

     

    I guess I'm finding it harder and harder to make a case to buy this thing.

     

    Upon initial release I was pretty excited as a smaller premium CUV is kind of up my ally for a next vehicle but at 40k it is still a sub 200hp vehicle and I won't drive a vehicle that size with less than 200hp and 200tq. I'm just not finding anything that makes me want it over the competition.

    I doubt though that anyone is cross shopping a Buick with a Jaguar, with a few exceptions of course. This is aimed at Acura, Lexus, and Lincoln.

    You are absolutely correct. But does that make the Buick overpriced or the Jag a bargain ? (excluding their reliability because we agree that is an issue - out of warranty)[/quote

    I won't get into all that because I think most cars are overpriced these days. I agree that the motor is small for that price but most non-enthusiast buyers don't care and probably won't even notice such things as long as it does what they need it to do.

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    Oh just gag me with the base 2.5.... it doesn't belong in the ATS and it doesn't belong here.

     

    Use the 1.6T, it has the same total horsepower with a much more agreeable torque curve.  Probably would beat the 2.5 on MPGs too....

    110% agree. 

     

    I don't know why they're using it in their premium applications. I would also have to believe that they'd get better emissions(score/rating ?) out of the smaller turbo engine as well.

     

    Also, how ya been Drew??? I feel like I haven't heard from you in awhile? Busy at work, I assume? 

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    35k for 197hp.. Bargain of the year right there. Probably less tq too as it's a n/a 4cyl. 

     

    I guess I'm finding it harder and harder to make a case to buy this thing.

     

    Upon initial release I was pretty excited as a smaller premium CUV is kind of up my ally for a next vehicle but at 40k it is still a sub 200hp vehicle and I won't drive a vehicle that size with less than 200hp and 200tq. I'm just not finding anything that makes me want it over the competition.

    I doubt though that anyone is cross shopping a Buick with a Jaguar, with a few exceptions of course. This is aimed at Acura, Lexus, and Lincoln.

    You are absolutely correct. But does that make the Buick overpriced or the Jag a bargain ? (excluding their reliability because we agree that is an issue - out of warranty)

    I won't get into all that because I think most cars are overpriced these days. I agree that the motor is small for that price but most non-enthusiast buyers don't care and probably won't even notice such things as long as it does what they need it to do.

    lol I agree with everything being overpriced. 

     

    Will 197hp be enough though? I mean this isn't a smaller, lighter CX-5. The premium-ness will add some weight as well. I really agree with Drew that they should have put something smaller and turbo'd in there to give the illusion of power by having a stout torque curve.

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    The Buick Envision will sell to those that see Cadillac as too expensive and an old persons auto. They want a family luxury CUV and this fits that image. I can see families buying this rather than a Cadillac.

     I think if people see Cadillac as an old person's car they will have the same opinion of Buick.   The Envision is smaller than an Equinox, it is has the same length and width as a Verano, so it isn't really family sized either.  

     

    You can also get a 310 hp mid-size Cadillac XT5 for less money than a 197 hp small sized Buick Envision.   And your car won't be made in China.

     

    The Encore starts around $24k, I thought the Envision was a good idea with a base price around $28k, more money than a Ford Escape, less than a Lincoln MKC.

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    The Acura RDX is the same size as the Envision and has a base 279 hp V6 with 252 lb-ft  and for $35,370.    Plus is has VTEC yo!

     

    How in the world is Buick charging $35k for a 197 hp 4-cylinder?  If anything the 2.0T should be the base engine at $34k, forget the 1.6T unless that is in the $28,995 price point this car should start at.

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    The Buick Envision will sell to those that see Cadillac as too expensive and an old persons auto. They want a family luxury CUV and this fits that image. I can see families buying this rather than a Cadillac.

     

    I never thought I'd agree with SMK - but if CADILLAC is thought as too expensive and and old persons auto - holy $h! the Buick will definitely be perceived as an old persons auto.

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    A Lexus NX or Lincoln MKC is cheaper and a much better deal than the Envision.  And the Lexus NX is a Lexus, it has a real luxury badge on it.  And if people are shopping reliability, sadly Lexus is the best in that regard.   $45k for an Envision Premium 2?  You can get a Lexus RX for that money, and have a larger, roomier vehicle, with a V6, etc.

    . There you go again. Let me tell you something about the Lexus NX. It is a Fancy Toyota RAV4. Funny how you don't say anything about that but when it involves Cadillac, it is somehow a different story.

     

     

    Normally I'd agree, but the Lexus NX beat the venerable BMW X3 in MT's recent comparison.

     

    It may be a fancy RAV4 but it has the substance, and the Buick being a Chinese car - I'm okay with it, but no way hell would I consider it.

     

    That really isn't saying much to me as the X3 has always been unremarkable.

     

    You also missed the bigger point of why I said it in the first place. 

     

     

    The X3 has been very praised... it's only flaw is that recently the options sheet has swelled, and as time has worn on, others present greater values.

     

    Otherwise, it's just as fuel-efficient, but faster than its competitors.

     

    The Buick is definitely a premium vehicle and it goes against Lexus and Lincoln, Acura and the rest.

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    What makes the Buick so premium though?  It has an engine you'd find in a CR-V or Rav4.  The RDX has a 279 hp V6, the Lexus NX and Lincoln MKC have turbo 4's standard.  For the premium price over the Honda/Toyota/Ford you get a noticeable engine upgrade.  I wouldn't say the Envision has a better interior than any of those 3 vehicles either, and the Buick is made in China, vs American made Lincoln and Acura, and Japanese for Lexus, so they don't win the country of origin image award either.

     

    I think the Buick Envision is needed, crossovers are hot, but they way over priced it.   The Envision is priced $14,000 above the Verano, and is the same size vehicle with basically the same engines, 2.4 liter vs 2.5 liter the only difference.  

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    Er... Buick brand is premium(er) than Chevy.

     

    We'll have to see how the car does. I don't like it. I think it's a piss poor value, engine'd wrong, and made in the wrong country - but if some Buick person can rationalize it, sure, why not?

     

    It's not that much of a stretch though to get into an Enclave at those price points.

     

    Which leads me to believe they'll make the next Enclave approach Escalade pricing fully loaded.

     

    Hot damn...

     

    Making MONEY!!

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