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    Dodge Makes the Challenger Hellcat Even Wider

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      And you thought Dodge didn't have any more ideas to milk the Hellcat


    Another day and another Challenger variant has been revealed. This time it is the 2018 Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody.

    The Widebody features the wide front fenders and splitter found on the Demon. The new fenders add 3.5-inches in overall width - perfect to fit the 305/35R20-size Pirelli P Zero tires with a set of 20-inch wheels. Dodge claims the changes make the Widebody faster around a track than a standard Hellcat - about 2 seconds on a 1.7-mile road course according to testing done by Dodge. (We'll be waiting for a magazine to do a test to see how much of a difference there is. -WM).

    Dodge also says the Hellcat Widebody will be quicker to 60 mph and quarter-mile (0.1 and 0.3 seconds respectively). 

    The Hellcat Widebody also features a new electrically assisted power-steering system. This allows for new various steering modes to be selected from the SRT driving mode system.

    Price? The Hellcat Widebody begins at $72,590 (after $1,700 for the gas guzzler tax and $1,095 destination). It goes on sale in the third quarter.

    Source: Dodge 
    Press Release is on Page 2


    New Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody Completes Dodge’s Most Powerful Muscle Car Lineup Ever for 2018

    • New SRT Hellcat Widebody model has a starting U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price of $71,495 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination).
    • Widebody design brings new fender flares first seen on 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon to the Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody, adding 3.5 inches of width
    • New 20 x 11-inch “Devil’s Rim” split-five spoke aluminum wheels riding on 305/35ZR20 Pirelli P-Zero performance tires answer enthusiasts who have been clamoring for a factory-production Hellcat with even more grip
    • Road course lap time on a 1.7-mile track lowered by approximately 2 seconds per lap in Widebody vs. standard Hellcat, approximately 13 car lengths after one lap
    • New standard electric power steering (EPS) system with SRT Drive Modes add new selectable steering tuning to Hellcat, to help manage increased grip for improved acceleration and handling performance 
    • Powered by proven 707-horsepower supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI® Hellcat V-8 engine
    • 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody model is open for dealer orders in July; will start arriving in dealerships in the third quarter

    June 27, 2017 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - When the new 840-horsepower Dodge Challenger SRT Demon raced down the drag strip to open the New York Auto Show in April, Dodge unleashed the ultimate street-to-strip car. Today, the brand is following up on its performance car mantra, introducing the new 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody, answering enthusiasts who have been clamoring for a factory-production Hellcat with even more grip.   
     
    “The new Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody completes our strongest Dodge muscle car lineup in history,” said Tim Kuniskis, Head of Passenger Cars – Dodge, SRT, Chrysler and FIAT – FCA North America. “Our brand, engineering and design teams poured a ton of effort into making the new SRT Demon the world’s fastest quarter-mile production car, so now we’re leveraging that know-how, and some of those vital elements and transferring them to the new Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody for improved performance on the street and a bolder, more aggressive new look.”
     
    With a starting U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $71,495 (including gas guzzler tax, excluding destination $1,095), the new Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody model features the same fender flares first shown on the SRT Demon. These wider fender flares add 3.5 inches to the SRT Hellcat’s overall width, covering the new 20 x 11-inch “Devil’s Rim” split-five spoke aluminum wheels, which ride on new, wider 305/35ZR20 Pirelli P-Zero tires with a new tread pattern. A new electric power steering (EPS) system with SRT Drive Modes adds new selectable steering tuning for the first time on a Hellcat model.
     
    In addition to its wider, more menacing stance, this new Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody delivers improved lap times, lateral grip, acceleration and braking, compared with the already ferocious performance numbers of the Hellcat:

    • Road course lap time on a 1.7-mile track lowered by approximately 2 seconds per lap, approximately 13 car lengths after one lap
    • ¼ mile elapsed time (ET) improved by approximately .3 sec (10.9 ET in Widebody vs. 11.2 ET in standard Hellcat)
    • Lateral skid pad grip increased by .04 g (.97 g in Widebody vs. .93 g in standard Hellcat)
    • 0-60 mph acceleration improved by .1 second (3.4 in Widebody vs. 3.5 in standard Hellcat)
    • Top speed of 195 mph

     
    New EPS – a First for Hellcat  
    The 2018 Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody features a new standard electric power steering (EPS) system – a first for Hellcat. The system uses SRT Drive Modes with selectable settings for Street (Auto), Sport and Track.
     
    Not only does the EPS system improve handling performance, owners will also notice better steering feel and ease of turning efforts at parking lot speeds. 
     
    With EPS and SRT Drive Modes, drivers can tailor their experience by controlling horsepower, transmission shift speeds, steering, paddle shifters (automatic transmission only), traction and suspension. There is also a Custom setting lets the driver use individual preferences.
     
    Functional and Intimidating Exterior Design
    With the new Widebody fender flares that add 3.5 inches to the overall width of the Challenger Hellcat, the Widebody model joins the Challenger SRT Demon as the widest Challengers ever.
     
    The new flares are expertly integrated into the body design with concealed attachments to amplify the Challenger SRT Hellcat’s menacing stance, while making room for the new 20 x 11-inch “Devil’s Rim” split-five spoke aluminum wheels that ride on 305/35ZR20 Pirelli tires for improved performance while filling the wheel wells for a stronger planted appearance. The front side marker lights are styled to flow with the shape of the fender flares.
     
    The 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody carries numerous exterior styling cues Dodge//SRT owners expect, such as:

    • Power-bulge aluminum hood with center intake and dual heat extractors
    • Exclusive illuminated Air-Catcher headlamps that feed air directly into the air box and engine bay through the center of the parking lamps
    • Quad projector headlamps give a unique detailed appearance, while the aggressive brow “chops” the upper portion of the lamp design exudes a sinister look
    • Front splitter (shared with Demon) and rear spoiler (from Hellcat) deliver responsive and balanced handling at high speed
    • Hellcat-exclusive new grille and fender badges, along with raised SRT Hellcat badge on the rear spoiler
    • Standard Brembo brake system includes two-piece 15.4-inch rotors and six-piston front calipers provide outstanding heat management/thermal capacity and longevity

     
    Proven Supercharged Hellcat Performance    
    The 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody is powered by the 6.2-liter supercharged HEMI V-8 with 707 horsepower and 650 lb.-ft. torque and can be paired to either the Tremec six-speed manual or TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. 
     
    The proven Hellcat HEMI engine features additional cooling measures including a low-temperature circuit with two air/coolant heat exchangers integrated into the supercharger housing. This setup is designed to keep air temperatures below 140 degrees Fahrenheit, under extreme ambient conditions, while enabling air flow of up to 30,000 liters per minute.

    So effective is this feature that engine power will not be de-rated due to cooling demands after 20 minutes of hard driving on a road course at an ambient temperature of 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
     
    Before the new SRT Demon V-8 engine was introduced, the supercharged Hellcat HEMI V-8 was the most powerful passenger-car engine ever produced by FCA US, which made the Challenger SRT Hellcat and Charger SRT Hellcat models the most powerful and fastest coupe and sedan ever. The new engine was also named to Ward’s 10 Best Engines list for 2015.
     
    Race-inspired, High-performance Interior
    The cockpit of the Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody remains true to its performance-oriented design and execution with world-class materials; high-sill center console and driver-focused instrument panel with 200-mph speedometer; SRT performance leather-wrapped flat-bottom, heated steering wheel; standard SRT Laguna leather performance seats with SRT Hellcat logo, and new red Hellcat instrument panel badge.
     
    SRT Performance Pages are accessible through the latest 8.4-inch touchscreen display media center with standard Uconnect 4C NAV system featuring performance improvements with faster startup time and enhanced processing power offering multi-touch gestures, vivid imagery, sharper graphics and the ability to support smartphone integrations.
     
    The 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody will be available 15 exterior colors: B5 Blue (late availability), Billet Silver, Destroyer Grey, F8 Green (late availability), Go Mango, Granite Crystal, IndiGo Blue (late availability), Maximum Steel, Octane Red, Pitch Black, Plum Crazy (late availability), Redline Tri-Coat, TorRed, White Knuckle and Yellow Jacket.
     
    Production of the 2018 Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody begins later this summer with deliveries to Dodge//SRT dealers in the third quarter.
     
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    3 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Agreed but the problem may be having an AWD system that can handle 707HP. 

    Well, they ARE making an AWD GC Hellcat, so......

     

    Aside from that, even if they detuned it a bit and did a few other unique-to-it special touches, it would have been a lot cooler.

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    2 minutes ago, Frisky Dingo said:

     

    I like where your head's at, but an R8 is a little out of my price range at the moment, lol. Maybe an RS5. Of course, the only way it'd beat the more track savvy pony cars is in inclement weather. :lol:

    Heck if your going to pay the type of coin for an RS5, why not just buy an old auto you love and put in the powertrain you really want and have an cheaper auto to insure with modern peformance powertrain from the automakers performance department. If the company does not make it, GM Performance can provide a great plug and play solution.

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    Just now, dfelt said:

    So True :metal: This is just a MB with a Chrysler logo on it.

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    I was driving around with my mom- who is 53- the other day, and she pointed out a new C Class we were coming up on at a red light. She asked me what it was, and when I told her said, "It looks like a Hyundai."

     

    I submit as evidence-

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    9 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Heck if your going to pay the type of coin for an RS5, why not just buy an old auto you love and put in the powertrain you really want and have an cheaper auto to insure with modern peformance powertrain from the automakers performance department. If the company does not make it, GM Performance can provide a great plug and play solution.

     

    Well, I love the RS5. It's like the a 911 C4 and GT350 had a baby. Stunning looks, tenacious AWD grip, impeccable refinement and build quality, and fantastic sonorous N/A V8.

     

    That said, I probably wouldn't actually buy one. For the money, I'd buy a new S4 or RS3. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    It's to the point I don't think I would ever swap an LS into a non-GM vehicle. I understand why people do it, and it's a great engine, but it has just been done to death at this point.

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    52 minutes ago, Frisky Dingo said:

    Well, they ARE making an AWD GC Hellcat, so......

     

    Aside from that, even if they detuned it a bit and did a few other unique-to-it special touches, it would have been a lot cooler.

    Very much so!

    43 minutes ago, Frisky Dingo said:

     

    Well, I love the RS5. It's like the a 911 C4 and GT350 had a baby. Stunning looks, tenacious AWD grip, impeccable refinement and build quality, and fantastic sonorous N/A V8.

     

    That said, I probably wouldn't actually buy one. For the money, I'd buy a new S4 or RS3. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    It's to the point I don't think I would ever swap an LS into a non-GM vehicle. I understand why people do it, and it's a great engine, but it has just been done to death at this point.

    I could see swapping a vintage nailhead Buick into a 32 Ford Chassis if one wanted to build an era correct replica of a 50's custom roadster...that would be a justifiable GM swap into a non GM vehicle.

    45 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    It is amazing to see how many people swap out their Benz motors for a reliable LS engine.

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Mercedes+LS+Engine+Swap&FORM=IDMHDL

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    Like the older Benz, but on the upper two, it is lipstick on a pig...

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    2 hours ago, Frisky Dingo said:

    Well, they ARE making an AWD GC Hellcat, so......

     

    Aside from that, even if they detuned it a bit and did a few other unique-to-it special touches, it would have been a lot cooler.

    Different architecture though with the GC so that could be part of the reason for the omission of it from the Challenger. 

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    11 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Different architecture though with the GC so that could be part of the reason for the omission of it from the Challenger. 

    Or internal accounting and cost justification.  The engineering budget got spent on a trunk latch for an Alfa in Italy...

    Would still love to see it in production...

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    Just now, A Horse With No Name said:

    Or internal accounting and cost justification.  The engineering budget got spent on a trunk latch for an Alfa in Italy...

    Would still love to see it in production...

    IIRC, they did offer AWD with a V8 in the Charger and 300C, so the engineering work should be long ago done...

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    52 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    IIRC, they did offer AWD with a V8 in the Charger and 300C, so the engineering work should be long ago done...

    But the Hellcat is putting down a lot more power than those were back then. 

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    16 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    But the Hellcat is putting down a lot more power than those were back then. 

    True, would likely have to beef up various parts, etc....I've never looked at the AWD setup on an LX..not sure what the transfer case, etc looks like compared to GCs which I'm familiar with..  I would assume on a car the components are smaller/lighter duty, don't have the space or ground clearance you have with an SUV or truck..

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    2 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    True, would likely have to beef up various parts, etc....I've never looked at the AWD setup on an LX..not sure what the transfer case, etc looks like compared to GCs which I'm familiar with..

    The GC is a more up to date is all I know. I think they could do AWD but as others have pointed out, cost may prohibit that from being a reality. 

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    On 6/29/2017 at 0:29 PM, A Horse With No Name said:

    Throw pitchforks but the Mustang has the best interior by far....not even remotely close.

    I like all three...and test drove an eco Boost Mustang before my most recent car purchase...but I am kind of burned out by the whole pony car thing.

    Hate to say it but I might buy a Nismo 370 before I would buy a Challenger...

    Both interiors are great, but the Challenger just seems more high class (talking the 15+ interior only BTW).

     

    I am really intrigued by the new RS5 with it's 450 HP TT 2.9 V6 and updated AWD system.  And the R8, OMG, just getting to sit in a 1st gen, I loved that car.  So thoughtful, tons of interior room for my 6 foot tall self, just an amazing supercar made for everyday. 

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    Im iffy on the visuals of the widebody.

    Sometimes I like the look of it, sometimes I dont.

    I dont like it most of the time because in pictures, the fender flares looked tacked on, like a bad home garage hot rodding project gone to hell!

    Without the rivet holes on the factory car of course!

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    Id prefer something like this instead

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    Ill just defend the Chally's honour.

    I must say, there is a lot of sour grapes and falsehoods in this thread regarding the Challenger.

    One HUUUUGE falsehood is that the the Challenger is as claustrophobic as a Mustang and  a bunker like a Camaro where you cant see out of it!!!

    This is bullshyte of course!!!

    The sour grape approach is that some are afraid to admit that the Challenger actually is a well demeanored vehicle that CAN handle the twisties just fine with all that horsepower under the hood.

    Question is....should the Challenger BE a fully capable twisty sports car?

    THE ANSWER IS A PHOQUING RESOUNDING NO!!!!

    IT IS A PURE PHOQUING MUSCLE CAR IN THE PUREST PHOQUING SENSE.

    I for one DONT want this pony car to become more in line with a Mustang or Camaro and become more European. Its just phoquing fine just the way it phoquing is!

    And the way it sells in the market place, which is not far behind the other two, plenty of people agree with  me! Especially considering how archaic the platform is and how new and state of the art the other two are!

    I agree with @Frisky Dingo

    AWD would really blow the universe apart!

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      FCA is paying Tesla hundreds of millions of dollar to pool their vehicles with Tesla to avoid EU fines over emissions. Tesla put out an invitation to other automakers to use its fleet to lower their emissions totals and FCA took them up on it.  Neither company released financial specifics of the deal, but it is estimated by the Financial Times to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.  
      Similar to California which allows manufactures with a surplus of ZEV credits to sell them to manufacturers who need them, the EU Commission allows manufacturers to pool together their fleets to avoid paying fines. Tesla makes significant money selling these credits in the US, earning $103.4m in 2018 and $279.7m in 2017. Once set up, the pool in Europe is good for several years.
      Vehicles in 2018 are allowed an average CO2 emission of 120.5g per kilometer. That figure will drop to 95g per kilometer next year.  FCA's average for 2018 was 123g per kilometer, one of the largest off the mark of the 13 major manufacturers. FCA is seen to have fallen to near the back of the pack when in comes to reigning in CO2 emissions.
      FCA was forecast to be facing fines exceeding €2 billion ($2.25 billion) without pooling with Tesla. 
       

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    • By Drew Dowdell
      FCA is paying Tesla hundreds of millions of dollar to pool their vehicles with Tesla to avoid EU fines over emissions. Tesla put out an invitation to other automakers to use its fleet to lower their emissions totals and FCA took them up on it.  Neither company released financial specifics of the deal, but it is estimated by the Financial Times to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.  
      Similar to California which allows manufactures with a surplus of ZEV credits to sell them to manufacturers who need them, the EU Commission allows manufacturers to pool together their fleets to avoid paying fines. Tesla makes significant money selling these credits in the US, earning $103.4m in 2018 and $279.7m in 2017. Once set up, the pool in Europe is good for several years.
      Vehicles in 2018 are allowed an average CO2 emission of 120.5g per kilometer. That figure will drop to 95g per kilometer next year.  FCA's average for 2018 was 123g per kilometer, one of the largest off the mark of the 13 major manufacturers. FCA is seen to have fallen to near the back of the pack when in comes to reigning in CO2 emissions.
      FCA was forecast to be facing fines exceeding €2 billion ($2.25 billion) without pooling with Tesla. 
       
    • By Drew Dowdell
      FCA US Reports 2019 February Sales
      Ram brand reports record February as sales rise 24 percent. Jeep® Cherokee sets February record All new heavy-duty Ram begins to arrive in dealer showrooms Auburn Hills, Mich. March 1, 2019 FCA US LLC reported today that the Jeep® Cherokee set an all-time February sales record, despite another month of bitter weather across key selling regions for the brand. The Ram brand scored another record month as well, on the back of award-winning products in the hot light-duty and heavy-duty markets.

      Following 11 straight months of year-over-year sales increases, the company's overall U.S. February sales retreated 2 percent to 162,036 vehicles in a soft market, compared with sales of 165,903 vehicles in February 2018. The Jeep brand is returning to a more "normal" sales cadence after benefiting from both the new and old Wrangler coming off the production lines this time last year.

      "The overall industry is starting off slower due in part to weather, the U.S. government shutdown and concern over tax refunds,” U.S. Head of Sales Reid Bigland said. “We still see a strong, stable economy and anticipate any lost winter sales will be made up in the spring. For us, the Ram brand was the standout in February, and Jeep Cherokee set a February record as well."

      See the attached table for the breakdown of brand and nameplate sales.

      Method of Determining FCA US LLC’s Monthly Sales. FCA US’s reported vehicle sales represent unit sales of vehicles to retail customers, deliveries of vehicles to fleet customers and to others such as FCA US’s employees and retirees as well as vehicles used for marketing. Most of these reported sales reflect retail sales made by dealers out of their own inventory of vehicles previously purchased by them from FCA US. Reported vehicle units sales do not correspond to FCA US’s reported revenues, which are based on FCA US’s sale and delivery of vehicles, and typically recognized upon shipment to the dealer or end customer. As announced on July 26, 2016, FCA US has modified its methodology for monthly sales reporting as follows:  Sales to retail customers by dealers in the U.S. are derived from the New Vehicle Delivery Report (“NVDR”) system and are determined as the sum of (A) all sales recorded by dealers during the month net of all unwound transactions recorded to the end of that month (whether the original sale was recorded in the current month or any prior month); plus (B) all sales of vehicles during that month attributable to past unwinds that had previously been reversed in determining monthly sales (in the current or prior months).  Fleet sales are recorded upon the shipment of the vehicle by FCA US to the customer or end user.  Other retail sales are recorded either (A) when the sale is recorded in the NVDR system (for sales by dealers in Puerto Rico and limited sales made through distributors that submit NVDRs in the same manner as for sales by U.S. dealers) or (B) upon receipt of a similar delivery notification (for vehicles for which NVDRs are not entered such as vehicles for FCA employees).     US_sales_Feb_2019osv5b9gq5et3r6dni740gkn6gc.pdf
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