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    A New Nautilus Surfaces

      The first Lincoln built in China that will be sold in the U.S.

    large.2024LincolnNautilusReserveJetPackage_07.webpLincoln unveiled an all-new Nautilus for the 2024 model year today. Unlike the prior model, which ended production last year, there is no Ford counterpart, giving Lincoln its first model in decades without a direct counterpart from a lesser brand.  Lincoln has reimagined the interior to maximize space and comfort for its occupants.

    The 2024 Nautilus bathes its occupants in luxury. A new console-style dash features "The Lincoln Embrace", an animation that starts at the center of the display and extends out, flowing into the door panels. The screen is the largest in its class and extends the entire width of the vehicle.  This allows Nautilus drivers to create their own sanctuary with personalized information to help keep eyes on the road.  When stationary, Nautilus orchestrates the available Lincoln Rejuvenate experience, a curation of visual, audio, and physical sensations that allow driver and passenger to recharge. As part of Lincoln Rejuvenate or as a standalone option, three curated scents will be available, – Mystic Forest, an earthy blend large.2024LincolnNautilusReserveJetPackage_BlackOnyx_04.webpwith woody, rich notes of patchouli; Ozonic Azure, a crisp blend of aromatic patchouli and traces of bright violet and Violet Cashmere, exotic white florals and trusted violet that are crisp and refined as fresh linen. Three levels of scent are available and controlled through the information system. Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, and Alexa are all standard, allowing the user control of music, calendar, route planning, and home automation.

    Available only in all-wheel drive, the Nautilus offers two powertrain choices. The base engine is a 2.0-liter 4-cylinder mated to an 8-speed automatic with a targeted output of 250 horsepower and 275 lb.-ft. of torque. Lincoln has lightened the components of the all-wheel drive system to improve fuel economy. Additionally, Lincoln will offer a hybrid model using the same gas engine but paired via a CVT with a 100-kw (about 134 hp) electric drive unit. The total system horsepower will be approximately 310 hp.

    large.2024LincolnBlackLabelNautilus_Redwood_02.webpThe chassis is managed by an active suspension with a suite of sensors that monitor motion and movement to provide an effortless gliding drive. Lincoln will also offer an updated BlueCruise 1.2, Lincoln's hands-free driving system for highway travel.

    Nautilus will be available in four exterior colors, Red Carpet, Diamond Red, Chroma Caviar and Blue Panther, with new interior themes. Black Onyx and Medium Light Space Gray is the core theme available on most models. Smoked Truffle is a warm, neutral theme. Black Onyx and Allura Blue is limited to Reserve models and highlights the Lincoln brand. The Jet Appearance Package, which is available on all trims, includes two-tone paint, available high gloss-black 22-inch wheels, an exclusive interior environment, and anodized black exterior elements. The package offers a sleeker and more dynamic look – another way for clients to personalize their Nautilus. The exclusive Black Onyx Sport interior features a Copper Code aluminum applique, enhanced by Dusted Copper accent stitching throughout.

    Lincoln's ultimate Black-Label trim gets two bespoke options. Chalet is a popular option in other Lincoln Black-Label models, and debuting on Nautilus is a new Redwood theme. Redwood mimics the warmth and beauty of the redwood forest with a tree-inspired motif.

    From rich textures to immersive audio, Nautilus will offer the award-winning available Revel Ultima 3D Audio System which features 28 speakers that envelop each occupant in rich, precise, and multidimensional sound. Paired with the available 24-Way Perfect Position Driver and Passenger Seats, the Nautilus creates a concert-like experience on the road.

    The 2024 Lincoln Nautilus will arrive in North America in early 2024, but ordering for the Nautilus is available now at Lincoln.com.

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    16 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    The RX may be a blah, but the Lexus build quality and reliability leads to low ownership cost and high resale value.  A used car buyer won't touch a GM 3.6 V6 with 150,000 miles on it, when people won't think twice about a 200,000 mile Lexus.  My aunt is on her 2nd ES350, the first she put about 220k miles on then passed on to my cousin who has been driving it the past 2 years, that car might be nearing 250k miles at this point.  And that's dealing with Minnesota winter abuse too.  

    Lexus Build Quality? 

    dennis weening lol GIF by SBS6

    This is what I call the Lemming affect. They used to have quality, but lately even my aunt who is on her 4th Lexus and has had two of them with dropped ceiling over the back seats seems to be blind to all the issues she has had to take her current RX in for. 

    I just do not get this devotion to Lexus as it is not what it used to be when they had the awesome commercial on how smooth their V8 was with a wine glass on it.

    I would say that Lexus is not here anymore IMHO.

    In regards to your comment on V6, I would take that over any 4 banger from Lexus or Toyota any day for reliability.

    Most common issues with the Toyota V6

    The 4 Most Common Toyota 1GR-FE Engine Problems - Toyota 4.0L V6 (tuningpro.co)

    Toyota Burns Oil | Excessive Engine Oil Consumption (youcanic.com)

    Why Toyotas Burn So Much Oil and What You Can Do About It | Torque News

    Toyota Tundra Warning About Its Engine Change | Torque News

    Plenty of sites have this info, but Toyota to folks that just blindly follow will say it is the best, but their is more truth to engine and quality issues than Toyota would want folks to know.

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    7 minutes ago, David said:

    Lexus Build Quality? 

    dennis weening lol GIF by SBS6

    This is what I call the Lemming affect. They used to have quality, but lately even my aunt who is on her 4th Lexus and has had two of them with dropped ceiling over the back seats seems to be blind to all the issues she has had to take her current RX in for. 

    I just do not get this devotion to Lexus as it is not what it used to be when they had the awesome commercial on how smooth their V8 was with a wine glass on it.

    I would say that Lexus is not here anymore IMHO.

    In regards to your comment on V6, I would take that over any 4 banger from Lexus or Toyota any day for reliability.

    Most common issues with the Toyota V6

    The 4 Most Common Toyota 1GR-FE Engine Problems - Toyota 4.0L V6 (tuningpro.co)

    Toyota Burns Oil | Excessive Engine Oil Consumption (youcanic.com)

    Why Toyotas Burn So Much Oil and What You Can Do About It | Torque News

    Toyota Tundra Warning About Its Engine Change | Torque News

    Plenty of sites have this info, but Toyota to folks that just blindly follow will say it is the best, but their is more truth to engine and quality issues than Toyota would want folks to know.

    You can find plenty of forums with GM and Ford quality issues too, Northstar V8 and Triton V8, enough said there.

    Here is the 10 year resale from Car Edge on the Lexus and Lincoln,  the Lincoln after 10 years is worth $10,000 less and $9,000 less after just 5 years.   And the Aviator actually has the same 45% drop in 5 years.  These Lincolns are bad resale, which is why people buy a Lexus, because when they go to sell it in 5-10 years, it is worth way more money. 

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    2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    The RX may be a blah, but the Lexus build quality and reliability leads to low ownership cost and high resale value.  A used car buyer won't touch a GM 3.6 V6 with 150,000 miles on it, when people won't think twice about a 200,000 mile Lexus.  My aunt is on her 2nd ES350, the first she put about 220k miles on then passed on to my cousin who has been driving it the past 2 years, that car might be nearing 250k miles at this point.  And that's dealing with Minnesota winter abuse too.  

    And good on Mazda for doing rear drive and a straight 6, but that probably could have been used 5 years ago.  Seems like hybrids and turbo 4 or EV has been the trend, and they are setting up 10 years of a thirsty 6 cylinder that makes turbo 4 power.

    Can't argue with any of that.. that straight 6 would've been more useful in a RWD Mazda 6...but oh well crossovers for everyone.  😞

     

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    3 hours ago, David said:

    Literally from the link you posted.

     

    "Toyota 4.0L V6 comes with benefits – longevity and reliability."

     

    Pointing out the issues (that clearly affect very few of those when you realize how many of those were made over those years) does not change the above in bold and doesn't make anyone a "lemming" any more so than your posts on EVs make you a "lemming". BTW, the sheer number of 4.0L equipped Toyotas for sale with over 200K miles on them, backs up my assertion about their overall reliability and longevity and again, nothing "lemming" about it because I am happy to supply endless ads on that one to prove it lol.

     

    Besides, I can literally find sites with issues on ANY motor or car. It's not that hard on even the most reliable vehicle out there because we have little thing called the internet that enables millions to bitch about their problem motors when they are going bad but rarely compliment their motors when things are going well. See what I am saying?

     

    Shall I post the endless issues, over the last 25 years, on the 5.3L from GM? Will that make it any less unreliable in your eyes?

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    The Cadillac XT5 and XT6 need upgrades to make them more Cadillac.  NO excuses, GM.

    As for the Nautilus, too bad it is being built in China rather than the USA.  I know Buick was saved by Chinese sales.  How many Lincolns are sold in China vs. North America?

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    10 hours ago, riviera74 said:

    The Cadillac XT5 and XT6 need upgrades to make them more Cadillac.  NO excuses, GM.

    As for the Nautilus, too bad it is being built in China rather than the USA.  I know Buick was saved by Chinese sales.  How many Lincolns are sold in China vs. North America?

    TBH...they (XT5/XTsux) shouldn't exist in their current form.  Cadillac should've been looking at MB/BMW as competitors instead of the low hanging fruit FWD RX, MDXs of the world.  This is why Buick is still around.  They should've been going after entry level luxury.  Cadillac dove downmarket to chase numbers and squeezed out it's own sibling brand.  

    IMO GM should just be Chevrolet & Cadillac....Buick and GMC don't really serve a purpose but to only cater to truck guys that feel like they're too good for a Chevy.  

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    40 minutes ago, SDotJizzle said:

    TBH...they (XT5/XTsux) shouldn't exist in their current form.  Cadillac should've been looking at MB/BMW as competitors instead of the low hanging fruit FWD RX, MDXs of the world.  This is why Buick is still around.  They should've been going after entry level luxury.  Cadillac dove downmarket to chase numbers and squeezed out it's own sibling brand.  

    IMO GM should just be Chevrolet & Cadillac....Buick and GMC don't really serve a purpose but to only cater to truck guys that feel like they're too good for a Chevy.  

    I agree with you that Cadillac should have NOT gone down stream and I can tell you in the past few years we have had plenty of discussions here where many feel the same that Cadillac should have focused on upstream.

    Buick / GMC has it's place as GMC really is the Cadillac of the Truck/SUV area with the Denali Trim. Buick is that mid luxury trim level that has it's place but even now with Chevrolet having trucks/SUVs that hit 6 figures, Buick is a relic of the past and could go away for the US market.

    GMC still give GM way more profit and truck/SUV sales with their Professional Grade marketing that many like and as such, I can see it living on along with Chevrolet. GMC should just cover the mid premium to upscale premium segment as GMC retiring Buick brand. Move those models that will have success under GMC such as the Electra, National, etc. Those models that would still drive sales.

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    3 hours ago, David said:

    I agree with you that Cadillac should have NOT gone down stream and I can tell you in the past few years we have had plenty of discussions here where many feel the same that Cadillac should have focused on upstream.

    Buick / GMC has it's place as GMC really is the Cadillac of the Truck/SUV area with the Denali Trim. Buick is that mid luxury trim level that has it's place but even now with Chevrolet having trucks/SUVs that hit 6 figures, Buick is a relic of the past and could go away for the US market.

    GMC still give GM way more profit and truck/SUV sales with their Professional Grade marketing that many like and as such, I can see it living on along with Chevrolet. GMC should just cover the mid premium to upscale premium segment as GMC retiring Buick brand. Move those models that will have success under GMC such as the Electra, National, etc. Those models that would still drive sales.

    The Buick Envista base price is actually less than the 2024 Trax and Trailblazer.  Buick isn’t mid-Lux anymore, they are basically a dumping ground for GM global products how Saturn used to be.  
     

    They could make Denali a Chevy trim and not need GMC.  I think GMC is mainly around because of the dealer agreements, and it isn’t worth paying off all those dealers off.  If GM was starting from scratch today it would probably be Chevy-Cadillac, but they are 100 years into this model and aren’t going to change it now.

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    Dumping/Retiring Buick would be a serious mistake for one reason: CHINA.  As for GMC, ditching that brand would send those truck/SUV sales to FORD.

    Instead, I would push Cadillac upmarket so that there is actual room for Buick and GMC.  GM used to do that between 1920 and about 1980.  It was highly successful.  If the work is put in, that strategy can work again, with fewer makes and models this time.

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    1 hour ago, riviera74 said:

    Dumping/Retiring Buick would be a serious mistake for one reason: CHINA.  As for GMC, ditching that brand would send those truck/SUV sales to FORD.

    Instead, I would push Cadillac upmarket so that there is actual room for Buick and GMC.  GM used to do that between 1920 and about 1980.  It was highly successful.  If the work is put in, that strategy can work again, with fewer makes and models this time.

    I think Buick can be a China Brand only. GMC I agree would see those sales go to Ford or RAM. I believe as I have always believed that GMC can survive as a mid-level brand. Totally agree with Cadillac moving up market.

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    On 4/18/2023 at 7:12 PM, riviera74 said:

    The Cadillac XT5 and XT6 need upgrades to make them more Cadillac.  NO excuses, GM.

    As for the Nautilus, too bad it is being built in China rather than the USA.  I know Buick was saved by Chinese sales.  How many Lincolns are sold in China vs. North America?

    Seems according to this story, the refreshed XT5 & 6 will go to China only. They will stay as is for 2024 model year and then both will be retired as they will be replaced by EVs.

    Next-Gen Cadillac XT5 Is 'Homeroomed' In China (cadillacsociety.com)

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