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  2. ocnblu
    Is that lean-to for coal?
  3. riviera74
    Yes we should address nuclear waste. Reprocessing the waste to create more electricity would do wonders for that problem.
  4. riviera74
    Get Cadillac to benchmark interiors so that Cadillac can improve them on the next MCE.
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  6. oldshurst442 started following End of the Road: Holden to Cease At the End of the Year
  7. oldshurst442
    Holden... I miss Pontiac, Oldsmobile. I will miss Holden just as much as I do Plymouth. Which is not much. Before I get hate from MOPAR folk...my reality of Plymouth is crappier versions of really, really...REALLY crappy badge engineered Chrysler FWD cars of the 1980s and 1990s. The ONLY Plymouth that I really cared for during that time would be the Prowler. And that car even became a Chrysler for a year or two... Holden...I got to be greatful because of the new GTO(which Canada never got), the Pontiac G8, the Camaro (which I actually hate), and the Chevy SS (which Canada also never got) so basically...like Plymouth, its only 1 model that really touched me in MY time. There are classic Plymouths that I love, but those are so far removed from my reality, those Plymouths just as well be cars from a different market all together....like Holden for instance. But yeah...folk Down Under must feel great pain today. I do have feels for them.
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  9. balthazar
    Toyoter is pretty busy replacing complete frames and engines to spend much time on engineering. If they had to design/ build the prius now, it’d take longer than the 10 years it took tesla to hit the #1 fastest growing vehicle segment.
  10. balthazar
    I currently have satellite TV. Obviously, different brands advertise via different media/schedules; I don’t know that limited viewing gives an accurate snapshot.
  11. smk4565
    I sat in a Kia Telluride at the auto show with a $47,800 sticker and it was nicer than an XT6. Kia is on point with that Telluride, easily the best interior in its own segment. But when they can punch above their weight class and have a better interior than Cadillac or Acura that is an achievement. And a problem for Cadillac, they don’t punch above their weight class which is what challenger brands have to do. Even the current Escalade which i get has been around a while, the interior on that is like Lincoln Corsair level.
  12. dfelt
    Latest Tear down of a brand new Tesla 3 shows that Tesla has 6 years on VW or Toyota in EV design / technology. https://electrek.co/2020/02/17/tesla-teardown-6-years-lead-over-toyota-vw/ An interesting read about supply chain and how Nikkie is saying that they auto companies worry about the parts suppliers. Right, GM already moved to an AI based high speed nervous system that does not have multiple ECU's, as such they are probably the most to be on par with Tesla. With Norway being so EV heavy, fuel station owners are converging to see how they are able to stay open and make a profit. https://electrek.co/2020/02/17/fuel-retail-chains-are-visiting-norway-to-ponder-a-future-when-gas-stations-dont-exist/
  13. dfelt
    Is this like on regular comcast tv lines or over the air? I honestly do not watch local tv stations and only use stream services of commercial free content. As such, I do not see anything from Cadillac, Chevrolet, Buick or GMC, yet I see the German and Asian auto companies on the web all the time. I am thinking GM is out of touch with the work force that embraces all things computers.
  14. riviera74
    Starve a marque of new product and this is what you get. I must admit I miss Olds more than Holden. Then again, this has to be really sad for those down under.
  15. balthazar
    I've seen a decent number of Cadillac ads on TV in the last few months, but perhaps I simply tune out the Germans triplet ads.
  16. balthazar
    I'm thinking the computer overlords would never allow the pods to impact another- so I could blaze thru cross-street intersections without lifting my right foot.
  17. dfelt started following End of the Road: Holden to Cease At the End of the Year
  18. dfelt
    Yes, totally agree, we will not see tires like that in our life time. All those auto's would crush up against your B-59 Tank!
  19. balthazar started following End of the Road: Holden to Cease At the End of the Year
  20. balthazar
    I never cared a blip about Holden, but it's always sad to see an industrial concern cease operations.
  21. balthazar
    ^ 4 new "tires" = $22,000. Just guessing. Obviously not rubber, so the wear & ride would be a wild unknown. Did you see the quick shot of the traffic signal-less intersection where vehicles (assumedly talking to each other or master-controlled) just narrowly miss each other? Wonder how my B-59 would go thru there; would all other traffic stop suddenly at the renegade retro-missile? That sort of sci-fi movie reality is 150 years off, minimum.
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  23. dfelt
    Gotta love interesting engineering videos of tech that we will probably never see. Hankook adjustable on the fly tires.
  24. Robert Hall
    Day off so out running errands this afternoon. Sunny and 46. Saw an eclectic mix...dark red 87-90 Caprice sedan in good shape that I’ve seen before. Saw a clean white w tan top 77 Caddy Sedan de Ville w a custom chrome grille. Saw a derelict ‘61 Ford Falcon 4dr in traffic, a tri-color of gray primer, matte black and rust. Saw a pale green early 90s XJ Cherokee with Forest Ranger lettering and door shields. Wasn’t sure if it was county, state or federal..but is something that old still in official use? And went by the City of Parma office building and sure enough they still have their early ‘00s Bonnevilles...
  25. dfelt
    GM do you hear the Banshee, it has been screaming for the last 3yrs since you killed local production. There was nothing to allow you to revive Holden. It was a slow hemorrhaging death. R.I.P. Holden, you will be missed as you made amazing products!
  26. dfelt started following End of the Road: Holden to Cease At the End of the Year
  27. dfelt
    @oldshurst442 I think a key point though as I posted in another thread about Cadillac is the lack of Marketing, commercials, test drive events, the ability to let everyone, not just special people invited to a closed door event have a chance to drive and see how great GM auto's are. Over Xmas, I saw a ton of MB, BMW and Audi xmas ads about their family of Auto's and MB even went so far to imply Santa now delivers presents via an MB and Mrs. Claus drives an MB CUV. GM is LOST IN ACTION when it comes to marketing and getting the name / brand out there for everyone to see.
  28. dfelt
    This is where Cadillac needs to increase the Marketing as I saw tons of MB, BMW and Audi ads over xmas talking about the whole family. Yet I have yet to see any big marketing of Cadillac. Also, how about some realistic drive events for the masses, not just special by invitation only drive events. Cadillac is missing key marketing, ads, experience by having conquest drive events to see why they have superior auto's. So much can be done, so little is being done.
  29. dfelt
    Living in a state that is all Green energy production and has an ugly black eye with the Tri-City Hanford Nuclear processing plant which has plenty of Nuclear waste, I get the waste issue is huge. We do have a way to nutralize it, but need more money to build bigger furnaces that changes the Nuclear Waste liquid into a solid glass that can then safely be buried under ground. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hanford-Engineer-Works https://www.hanford.gov/ https://www.livescience.com/62623-radioactive-waste-trapped-in-glass.html https://www.hanfordvitplant.com/ Currently we have the Nations 56 million gallons of Nuclear waste sitting in above ground and under ground tanks that are starting to leak. As such, we do need to figure out a way to address the Nuclear waste before we move forward with building more Nuclear plants. Am I glowing yet?
  30. William Maley started following End of the Road: Holden to Cease At the End of the Year
  31. William Maley
    Nearly three years after ending local production in Australia, General Motors announced this morning in Australia that Holden will cease to exist by the end of the year. The move will see 800 jobs going away and the closure of the Melbourne design studio and Lang Lang proving ground. In a statement, GM International Operations Senior Vice President Julian Blissett said the company made the difficult decision to close operations after varying attempts to try and rejuvenate the brand. “Over recent years, as the industry underwent significant change globally and locally, we implemented a number of alternative strategies to try to sustain and improve the business, together with the local team.” “After comprehensive assessment, we regret that we could not prioritize the investment required for Holden to be successful for the long term in Australia and New Zealand, over all other considerations we have globally. This decision is based on global priorities and does not reflect the hard work, talent and professionalism of the Holden team,” explained Blissett. A source tells CarAdvice that the decision to shutter Holden took place over the weekend, and also stressed that GM had "every intention of reviving the brand following the end of local manufacturing." "Our intention was to turn around the brand ... there is zero blame to the local team," said the high ranking General Motors official. "This decision (about Holden) is all about investment priorities." The decision to close down operations in Australia will also mark the end of right-hand drive vehicles which comprised of Australia, New Zealand, and Thailand. GM has been pulling out of RHD markets for the past three years with the United Kingdom and India being some of the big ones. Holden hasn't been doing so well in sales since the end of local production. The past couple of years has seen the brand hemorrhaging sales as buyers went towards SUVs and smaller vehicles. A key example of the bleeding, the ZB Commodore only sold 5,915 units last year - a decrease of 34.6 percent. There will still be a small remnant of GM in Australia throigh a new sub-brand that will sell a select models from the U.S., including the Camaro and Silverado. Source: CarAdvice, CarsGuide, GoAuto, Which Car, General Motors Press Release on Page 2 Holden Vehicle Sales, Design, and Enginnering To Cease in Australia and New Zealand MELBOURNE – The Holden brand will be retired from sales in Australia and New Zealand and local design and engineering operations will wind down by 2021, General Motors (NYSE: GM) announced today. Maven and Holden Financial Services operations will also wind down in Australia. GM International Operations Senior Vice President Julian Blissett said GM had taken the difficult decision after implementing and considering numerous options to maintain and turn around Holden operations. “Through its proud 160-year history, Holden has not only made cars, it has been a powerful driver of the industrialization and advancement of Australia and New Zealand,” said Blissett. “Over recent years, as the industry underwent significant change globally and locally, we implemented a number of alternative strategies to try to sustain and improve the business, together with the local team.” GM undertook a detailed analysis of the investment required for Holden to be competitive beyond the current generation of products. Factors impacting the business case for further investment included the highly fragmented right-hand-drive markets, the economics to support growing the brand, and delivering an appropriate return on investment. “After comprehensive assessment, we regret that we could not prioritize the investment required for Holden to be successful for the long term in Australia and New Zealand, over all other considerations we have globally,” said Blissett. “This decision is based on global priorities and does not reflect the hard work, talent and professionalism of the Holden team.” GM intends to focus its growth strategy in Australia and New Zealand on the specialty vehicles business and plans to immediately work with its partner on developing these plans. GM Holden Interim Chairman and Managing Director Kristian Aquilina said that given the significance of Holden through its history, it was critical the company worked with all stakeholders to deliver a dignified and respectful wind-down. “Holden will always have a special place in the development of our countries. As Australia and New Zealand grew, Holden was a part of the engine room fuelling that development,” said Aquilina. “Today’s announcement will be felt deeply by the many people who love Holdens, drive Holdens and feel connected to our company which has been with us for 160 years and is almost ubiquitous in our lives. “Unfortunately, all the hard work and talent of the Holden family, the support of our parent company GM and the passion of our loyal supporters have not been enough to overcome our challenges. “We understand the impact of this decision on our people, our customers, our dealers and our partners – and will work closely with all stakeholders to deliver a dignified and respectful transition.” Holden customers can be assured that the company will honour all warranties and servicing offers made at time of sale. Holden will provide servicing and spare parts for at least 10 years, through national aftersales networks in Australia and New Zealand. As required, Holden and its aftersales network will also continue to handle any recalls or safety-related issues if they arise, working with the appropriate governmental agencies. Impacted Holden employees will be provided separation packages and employment transition support. Holden will work with its dealer network on appropriate transition arrangements, including offering dealers the opportunity to continue as authorized service outlets to support Holden customers. Holden Customer Care is available to answer customer inquiries and all warranties and service agreements. Holden customers in Australia can call 1800 46 465 336 or visit www.holden.com.au; Holden customers in New Zealand can call 0800 465 336 or visit www.holden.co.nz. View full article
  32. William Maley
    Nearly three years after ending local production in Australia, General Motors announced this morning in Australia that Holden will cease to exist by the end of the year. The move will see 800 jobs going away and the closure of the Melbourne design studio and Lang Lang proving ground. In a statement, GM International Operations Senior Vice President Julian Blissett said the company made the difficult decision to close operations after varying attempts to try and rejuvenate the brand. “Over recent years, as the industry underwent significant change globally and locally, we implemented a number of alternative strategies to try to sustain and improve the business, together with the local team.” “After comprehensive assessment, we regret that we could not prioritize the investment required for Holden to be successful for the long term in Australia and New Zealand, over all other considerations we have globally. This decision is based on global priorities and does not reflect the hard work, talent and professionalism of the Holden team,” explained Blissett. A source tells CarAdvice that the decision to shutter Holden took place over the weekend, and also stressed that GM had "every intention of reviving the brand following the end of local manufacturing." "Our intention was to turn around the brand ... there is zero blame to the local team," said the high ranking General Motors official. "This decision (about Holden) is all about investment priorities." The decision to close down operations in Australia will also mark the end of right-hand drive vehicles which comprised of Australia, New Zealand, and Thailand. GM has been pulling out of RHD markets for the past three years with the United Kingdom and India being some of the big ones. Holden hasn't been doing so well in sales since the end of local production. The past couple of years has seen the brand hemorrhaging sales as buyers went towards SUVs and smaller vehicles. A key example of the bleeding, the ZB Commodore only sold 5,915 units last year - a decrease of 34.6 percent. There will still be a small remnant of GM in Australia throigh a new sub-brand that will sell a select models from the U.S., including the Camaro and Silverado. Source: CarAdvice, CarsGuide, GoAuto, Which Car, General Motors Press Release on Page 2 Holden Vehicle Sales, Design, and Enginnering To Cease in Australia and New Zealand MELBOURNE – The Holden brand will be retired from sales in Australia and New Zealand and local design and engineering operations will wind down by 2021, General Motors (NYSE: GM) announced today. Maven and Holden Financial Services operations will also wind down in Australia. GM International Operations Senior Vice President Julian Blissett said GM had taken the difficult decision after implementing and considering numerous options to maintain and turn around Holden operations. “Through its proud 160-year history, Holden has not only made cars, it has been a powerful driver of the industrialization and advancement of Australia and New Zealand,” said Blissett. “Over recent years, as the industry underwent significant change globally and locally, we implemented a number of alternative strategies to try to sustain and improve the business, together with the local team.” GM undertook a detailed analysis of the investment required for Holden to be competitive beyond the current generation of products. Factors impacting the business case for further investment included the highly fragmented right-hand-drive markets, the economics to support growing the brand, and delivering an appropriate return on investment. “After comprehensive assessment, we regret that we could not prioritize the investment required for Holden to be successful for the long term in Australia and New Zealand, over all other considerations we have globally,” said Blissett. “This decision is based on global priorities and does not reflect the hard work, talent and professionalism of the Holden team.” GM intends to focus its growth strategy in Australia and New Zealand on the specialty vehicles business and plans to immediately work with its partner on developing these plans. GM Holden Interim Chairman and Managing Director Kristian Aquilina said that given the significance of Holden through its history, it was critical the company worked with all stakeholders to deliver a dignified and respectful wind-down. “Holden will always have a special place in the development of our countries. As Australia and New Zealand grew, Holden was a part of the engine room fuelling that development,” said Aquilina. “Today’s announcement will be felt deeply by the many people who love Holdens, drive Holdens and feel connected to our company which has been with us for 160 years and is almost ubiquitous in our lives. “Unfortunately, all the hard work and talent of the Holden family, the support of our parent company GM and the passion of our loyal supporters have not been enough to overcome our challenges. “We understand the impact of this decision on our people, our customers, our dealers and our partners – and will work closely with all stakeholders to deliver a dignified and respectful transition.” Holden customers can be assured that the company will honour all warranties and servicing offers made at time of sale. Holden will provide servicing and spare parts for at least 10 years, through national aftersales networks in Australia and New Zealand. As required, Holden and its aftersales network will also continue to handle any recalls or safety-related issues if they arise, working with the appropriate governmental agencies. Impacted Holden employees will be provided separation packages and employment transition support. Holden will work with its dealer network on appropriate transition arrangements, including offering dealers the opportunity to continue as authorized service outlets to support Holden customers. Holden Customer Care is available to answer customer inquiries and all warranties and service agreements. Holden customers in Australia can call 1800 46 465 336 or visit www.holden.com.au; Holden customers in New Zealand can call 0800 465 336 or visit www.holden.co.nz.
  33. balthazar
    RE real estate : if there's any wide-spread move to nationalize energy (not saying there is, but some do advocate for it)... wind & solar panel farms take up considerable real estate already. Bumping things to a national supply level would add 100s of millions of acres to the Gov't's already 100s of millions of acres. Naturally, this will involve a considerable degree of buying private lands, esp WRT the wind generation. Every acre the federal Gov't buys is 1 more acre taken OFF the tax rolls. Since the Prime Directive of Big Gov't is revenue streaming, where does the tax burden of the now non-taxable acreage go? To the private land owners. Currently, the Fed owns 640 millions acres. Total gov't land ownership (fed & state) is 40% of the U.S.. Maybe Gov't already owns enough land to not have to buy more (tho Gov't always is). Another point to consider...
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