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@ocnblu Got it. 3G is the first two digits of the VIN.  3 is country code Mexico and G is for GM.  So it was a Mexican built GM and there were only two of those on the list, the Avalanche and the EXT.  While I wouldn't have said no to an EXT, an Avalanche popped up that I couldn't NOT buy.

So, I have bought what is likely the lowest mileage 2013 Avalanche in the country.  All the paperwork and loan has been finalized, I just have to pick it up on Wednesday.  It's a Blue Topaz 2013 LTZ Black Diamond with only 12,800 miles on the clock. I paid $32,990 and Carvana gave me $8,100 for the Cruze. It checks all my boxes for heated/cooled seats, heated steering wheel, remote start. The only thing is doesn't have that I would have liked is a sunroof, but for such a museum piece, I will survive without it. 

20 hours ago, David said:

That is the weirdest configuration for a FOREST SERVICE TRUCK. 

I saw a strange forest service truck here in the Cleveland suburbs a while back..it was that funky green w forest service decals on the doors...but it was a pre-97 Jeep XJ Cherokee...in very clean shape.  Sort of a WTF moment, though..in what time warp is the forest service driving 25-30 yr old vehicles? 

Bleu-Blanc-Rouge

I second @ocnblu  guess.

But...what gen Avalanche?

Ill go with 1st gen, de-cladded.

45 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

 and you all know me well enough to figure it out.

You left us in the middle of the night without warning.    

You never told us what, where, why.  You never even said goodbye.  

So now, you come back and you think everything will be alright?  Just like it was before?  

Come here you big lug!  Give me a hug!

Well I hope you enjoy your Avalanche.  Post pics asap.

48 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Drewbert, you left us hangin' on a hook like a Speedo at a pool party.  WHAT DID YOU BUY, MAN?

I’m going to keep you all hanging until one of you gets it or I pick it up on Wednesday. But there are plenty of clues in this thread and you all know me well enough to figure it out.

Drewbert, you left us hangin' on a hook like a Speedo at a pool party.  WHAT DID YOU BUY, MAN?

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7 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Shooting break, anyone? 

"Shooting brake" < you're not by yourself on that though, a lot of ppl over onto the internet mistake the shooting brake.

So if it is only 80-85% of reality, it could be a lot worse when it actually goes into production in 2042.  We know that fine details on show cars disappear once they reach the daily slog of series production, however tiny the series might be.

3 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Mercedes has over 400 miles of range in the EQS, that will come next year,

They don’t have shit until its certified. Remember that other German co that said their EV would get 390 miles on range, but testing barely returned 300?

4 hours ago, smk4565 said:

In the Ward's article they said Steve Carlisle said it would start under $75,000.

A-aaaaand they said the original Seville would start at $8K, and when it came out it was $12K. The Lyriq is too far from the showroom floor to pin it down now.

2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

The Model X Performance does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds...

Yet no one buys it. 

and GM won't allow anything faster than a Corvette, so I doubt the Lyriq is going to beat that.

Seeing as how the base Corvette already is doing 2.8 secs, there’s plenty of room. Doesn’t really matter obviously; no one buys the 2.6 sec SUV as it is. Perhaps you don’t understand the consumer demographic like you think you do.

3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

 

I will say something nice:  I am glad Cadillac is pronouncing it "lyric" and not something fruity, like "leer-EEK". 

 

I dont like the name. I dont like the reason why they came up with that particular name.  (Because Cadillac is the music world's most sung brand.)

I dont even like the idea  going with "iq"as the last two letters of a name they come up with as a naming theme for their vehicles.  

But hey!  At least Cadillac got real names now.   Its just that I think Cadillac needs commanding, arrogant yet elegant names for their cars.    

Lyriq pronounced lyric is still fruity.  It could be elegant. Its just that its goofy spelled with "iq" at the end. Making it fruity nonetheless. 

Im OK with the styling,  Its elegant.  Its sporty, kinda.   Lets be honest though.  You were wishing for a Blackwing V8 in it.  Well, it does not have V8 worthy, in your V8 face kinda styling.  Its looks are too tame for a growling V8.   The name Lyriq is too fruity for a V8...   The styling of it is perfect for battery electric...   So...

24 minutes ago, balthazar said:

If 80% of that vehicle comes to market starting at $75K, that's incredible bargain... but that interior (or 80% of that interior) is $100K plus.
The Model X is certainly no class leader here - Tesla is hiding it's sales by combining them with another falling -and completely unrelated- model, the Model S. The field is ripe for a new model to rise to the top. You know it's not coming from mercedes.

Base Model X today has 351 mile range, Cadillac is targeting 300 miles in 2023.

The Model X Performance does 0-60 in 2.6 seconds, and GM won't allow anything faster than a Corvette, so I doubt the Lyriq is going to beat that.   And if Tesla has some cash flow, I imagine they'll have new versions of the Model S and X by 2023.  

Mercedes has over 400 miles of range in the EQS, that will come next year, and EQE and a couple SUVs in 2022, if anyone is going to challenge Tesla I'd imagine it will be Mercedes who will have the battery factories and facilities to make all this stuff and has a customer base used to paying these kind of prices.   VW group might also be a big disruptor given their global size and number of brands.  

If 80% of that vehicle comes to market starting at $75K, that's incredible bargain... but that interior (or 80% of that interior) is $100K plus.
The Model X is certainly no class leader here - Tesla is hiding it's sales by combining them with another falling -and completely unrelated- model, the Model S. The field is ripe for a new model to rise to the top. You know it's not coming from mercedes.

Sew

11 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

@balthazar might like this old truck on Hoovie's garage... a forest service green longbed 2wd '03 Chevy Silverado...with a manual and 6.0 V8.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGRf3iXimvg&t=29s

Cool!

14 hours ago, David said:

granted Cadillac made the world biggest BLIND spot with the rear quarter panel area and that little tiny rear window on the cargo area.

Ummmmm....

I havent seen the promo vid of this thing just yet.  But hasnt GM  been touting something about cameras in the rear that will be broadcasting the feed live via the interior rear view mirror?  Something or other in the C8 Corvette?

Of course GM has!

Could it be that Cadillac would have the same thing?

Shooting break, anyone? 

Anyone?

No?

OK...  Ill tell you what... 

Its not a wagon.  Station or otherwise. 

Not to you.  Not to anyone.

Anyone!   

Its an old fashioned...body on frame, sports utility vehicle.   

SUV for short.   (put that in your pipe and smoke it) 

41 minutes ago, balthazar said:

That's was a Ward's Auto/other rag's guess, not Cadillac-sourced.

In the Ward's article they said Steve Carlisle said it would start under $75,000.  

Without knowing the performance or standard features, it is hard to determine what is a good price point.  $75k undercuts the Tesla Model X by $5k, maybe that makes the Lyriq a bargain, or maybe $75k is a rip off, but we don't know yet.

18 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Cadillac says it will start under $75k

That's was a Ward's Auto/other rag's guess, not Cadillac-sourced.

23 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Which one?

It was the '80s; close your eyes & throw a paint-filled balloon.

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Oh, the Lyric would be music to a thinking man's ears if it were powered by a Blackwing V8.

All right - just wanted to make sure you were still (able to) separate the two.
Carry on.

21 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Which one?

Oh, the Lyric would be music to a thinking man's ears if it were powered by a Blackwing V8.  As it is, it is a silhouette car, sadly a shiny, empty wrapper.

If you want a Blackwing V8, get an Escalade.  Full stop.

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