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Robert Hall replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


Well, Dodge's EV slogan is something like 'rip up the streets' isn't it?  I'm sure they will have audacious names...like Hellcat EVicerator, Charger Mutilator, or Ram Murder Beast, Ram DefEcator..

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David replied to Random Thoughts Thread.


Very cool patent filing by GM, will be interesting to see if it ever gets used.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1135923_gm-patent-electric-trucks-evs-fast-charging-dual-charge-ports

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oldshurst442 replied to Random Thoughts Thread.


On 2/3/2022 at 11:16 PM, balthazar said:

 

 

On 2/4/2022 at 7:26 PM, David said:

Yes, the Journey is the fun part of auto projects. But the realist in me sees that GTO above as a lost cause that is past the time of being a fun auto restoration even for a donut making car. I honestly doubt anyone here would really take on that GTO as a project car. The guy is looking for advertisement hits on his channel which is more important to him than the GTO.

 

https://www.motortrend.com/features/1970-pontiac-gto-muscle-car-shot-to-death-in-texas/

 

006 world of wheels 1970 pontiac gto

 

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David replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

I have a feeling they'll do something tacky, hahaha. 

I see Ram already has their first EV out! :roflmao:
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NINETY EIGHT REGENCY replied to 1985 Pontiac Parisienne.


The Chevrolet 305  used in the Caprice was an option during this time. They used the Chevrolet 305 and Oldsmobile 307 V8. I found out the hard way and through information. I assumed that they only used the Chevrolet 305 and found out that was not the case. The  sedan and wagons used the Oldsmobile 307 V8.   So the 305 and 307 were both used during this time frame. 

Engine 231 cu in (3.8 L) Buick V6
265 cu in (4.3 L) Pontiac V8
301 cu in (4.9 L) Pontiac V8
305 cu in (5.0 L) Chevrolet V8
307 cu in (5.0 L) Oldsmobile V8
350 cu in (5.7 L) Pontiac V8

 

https://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1985/2845985/pontiac_parisienne_brougham_sedan_5_0_liter_v8_automatic_overdrive.html

 

 

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ccap41 replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


5 minutes ago, David said:

Gotta wonder what RAM, Jeep, Dodge and Chrysler will do. Will they go the E route, new name or existing name electric like Genesis? 🤔

I have a feeling they'll do something tacky, hahaha. 

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David replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


7 hours ago, ccap41 said:

First, I HATE how the American companies are trying to be "fancy" with the "E". It just seems so tacky and hopefully it will be phased out as EVs become more normal.

Second, Mercedes is kind of going the way of this GV80 & GV80 Electric thing. They're doing EQS Sedan and EQS SUV. I'm not sure how I like it yet. 

Gotta wonder what RAM, Jeep, Dodge and Chrysler will do. Will they go the E route, new name or existing name electric like Genesis? 🤔

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David replied to May Car Spotting Thread.


18 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

On the freeway tonight saw a clean dark red G6 convertible, top down. Don’t see those very often. Saw a red VW New Beetle convertible with the left rear taillight out and the right front headlight out.   And as proof Ohio doesn’t do inspections saw a ratty early ‘00s Silverado that had the bed barely attached to the frame, so much rust,no tailgate and the left rear fender leaning in and strapped to the right one…only one taillight.  The cab appeared partially detached from the frame also. 

I honestly think there should be a national standard of safety inspection to keep the roads and auto's safe for all, I saw today when I ran out to get some errands done at lunch a Toyota Corolla and Honda Accord that both had front and rear bumper facia's missing and also tail/headlights missing. 

Driving is a privilege earned and not a right and if these people cannot keep the auto in proper working condition and safe, then those auto's need to be removed from the road. Crazy how some will drive auto's that are death traps IMHO.

Saw an old Rat rod that @balthazar would have loved all in primer grey, clearly a work in progress, but at least all bumpers, lights functional and windshield wipers were working and there.

🤔 Been a while since we have seen @balthazar posting, anyone hear from him? Hope he is all right and just busy with work.

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riviera74 replied to 1985 Pontiac Parisienne.


Pontiac stopped production of V8 engines in 1981.  A 1985 model is most likely a Olds 307.

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trinacriabob replied to 1985 Pontiac Parisienne.


In this span of years, Pontiac's Parisienne was definitely the go-to GM full size in my book.

The circular gauges in the dash lead me to believe that a gauge package was available and would slot in easily.  Add some rally, honeycomb, or whatever Pontiac sport wheels were offered that year.

I would have to look up engines.  If I'm not mistaken, they actually started out full-size Pontiacs and Chevys with the Chevy (Vortec) 4.3 liter TBI V6, which was probably weak for this size of car, but indestructible.  One always runs into people with over 300,000 miles on their 4.3 V6s.   

I'm wondering if Pontiac stopped their V8 production by this time, meaning that it wouldn't feature a 301 V8.  That would mean it took the Olds supplied 307 V8.  You can't argue with that.  I'd much prefer it to a Chevy supplied 305 V8.  The best combo would have been a GM small block V8 outfitted with TBI instead of the carburetors they still had in them.

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trinacriabob replied to 1975 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale & 1976 Oldsmobile 98 Regency: A Comparison.


Now that I look at this, the Olds 88 in coupe form did have a strange roofline, putting such a big rear window in the sail panel and with thin pillars adjacent to the backlite.  I'm sure they could have come up with something different and less clunky.  The coupe treatment of the bigger 98 worked much better.  However, of all the big coupes from that year, the Pontiac Bonneville and Grand Ville, outfitted with Pontiac alloy rally wheels, won in the looks department.

It's amazing what rectangular headlamps did for these cars.  Amazing.  It really allowed them to clean up the lines around the grilles.  If I recall, the strip speedometer prevailed, but, for some of these cars, gauges were available in small "boxes" inserted below it on the dash (or maybe that was the next-gen, when the downsize came).

The 98 of this era was one of a kind, again helped by rectangular headlamps in this year.  The sort of finned rear lamps that ended at the bumper, instead of continuing on below the bumper line, made it easier on the eyes than the equivalent Cadillac.  And I'd much prefer an Olds 455 V8 under the hood to Cadillac's absurd 500 c.i. V8.  (Realistically, the Olds 350 V8 could have lugged the 98 around, seeing it was the base engine in the 88 series.) Not only that, the 98 was quite a bit better looking in its lines than the equivalent Buick - Electra/225/Park Avenue - where the rear bumper and busy horizontal light fascia weren't that appealing.  Based on my high school French classes, I later nicknamed the 98 of this era "la cathedrale roulante" because of its rear taillamps.

 

 

 

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Robert Hall replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


14 hours ago, David said:

I think this could very well work to their advantage as they phase out the ICE versions to only have electric and still a GV80 is a GV80 regardless of the powertrain. Will be interesting to see how this plays out against say the Germans that are going with new names versus the Americans that are adding an E, ChevrolEt, Mach-E, etc.

They could have done GV8E, G8E, G7E, etc...would be pronounced much the same as 80, 70, etc.

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ccap41 replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


14 hours ago, David said:

Will be interesting to see how this plays out against say the Germans that are going with new names versus the Americans that are adding an E, ChevrolEt, Mach-E, etc.

First, I HATE how the American companies are trying to be "fancy" with the "E". It just seems so tacky and hopefully it will be phased out as EVs become more normal.

Second, Mercedes is kind of going the way of this GV80 & GV80 Electric thing. They're doing EQS Sedan and EQS SUV. I'm not sure how I like it yet. 

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Robert Hall replied to May Car Spotting Thread.


On the freeway tonight saw a clean dark red G6 convertible, top down. Don’t see those very often. Saw a red VW New Beetle convertible with the left rear taillight out and the right front headlight out.   And as proof Ohio doesn’t do inspections saw a ratty early ‘00s Silverado that had the bed barely attached to the frame, so much rust,no tailgate and the left rear fender leaning in and strapped to the right one…only one taillight.  The cab appeared partially detached from the frame also. 

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David replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

Well I guess they could just call them G80 Electric, GV80 Electric, etc.

I think this could very well work to their advantage as they phase out the ICE versions to only have electric and still a GV80 is a GV80 regardless of the powertrain. Will be interesting to see how this plays out against say the Germans that are going with new names versus the Americans that are adding an E, ChevrolEt, Mach-E, etc.

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smk4565 replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


7 hours ago, David said:

Actually I will have to disagree with you about their naming scheme backing them into a corner. They are very clear that the electric versions will replace the gas versions eventually and have clearly state you can get an Electrified GV or a regular (ice) GV.

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GENESIS GV60 Electric SUV | GENESIS Worldwide

GENESIS ELECTRIFIED GV70 - Electric SUV | GENESIS Worldwide

Well I guess they could just call them G80 Electric, GV80 Electric, etc.

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ccap41 replied to Random Thoughts Thread.


3 minutes ago, David said:

True, the tail lights are pretty cool, wonder what the cost is for replacement? 🤔

If one is spending 100k on a vehicle, they probably don't care a whole lot.

But, probably one's first born. Hahaha

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David replied to Random Thoughts Thread.


2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

These taillights are pretty fckn sweet though.

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I don't love it but I certainly do not hate it like the EQS and EQE Sedans. 

True, the tail lights are pretty cool, wonder what the cost is for replacement? 🤔

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ccap41 replied to Random Thoughts Thread.


14 hours ago, David said:

WOW, Missed the world premiere of the EQS SUV, but have to say MEH to this SUV as it really does nothing for inspiration. Almost as if Mercedes wants their EVs to fail.

These taillights are pretty fckn sweet though.

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I don't love it but I certainly do not hate it like the EQS and EQE Sedans. 

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David replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


12 hours ago, smk4565 said:

The GV60 is priced like the Lyric but is full size class (or 2) lower and has less range and horsepower.  I think Genesis does a nice job with interiors, but they aren't Mercedes or Audi-level, so the Cadillac seems like the better deal between the 2.  The GV60's size and shape seems aimed at the Model Y, although it is even smaller than the Model Y, and it doesn't have the Tesla mystique.  I don't really see where the GV60 is a good deal long term, maybe year one it does well, but once the market floods with other electric crossovers, the GV60 could get forgotten.

Genesis also backed themselves into a corner with their naming scheme, they have GV 60, 70, 80, 90.  So what happens when they make a larger electric SUV?  Is that a GV75?  or a GV80-EV? 

Actually I will have to disagree with you about their naming scheme backing them into a corner. They are very clear that the electric versions will replace the gas versions eventually and have clearly state you can get an Electrified GV or a regular (ice) GV.

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GENESIS GV60 Electric SUV | GENESIS Worldwide

GENESIS ELECTRIFIED GV70 - Electric SUV | GENESIS Worldwide

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smk4565 replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


The GV60 is priced like the Lyric but is full size class (or 2) lower and has less range and horsepower.  I think Genesis does a nice job with interiors, but they aren't Mercedes or Audi-level, so the Cadillac seems like the better deal between the 2.  The GV60's size and shape seems aimed at the Model Y, although it is even smaller than the Model Y, and it doesn't have the Tesla mystique.  I don't really see where the GV60 is a good deal long term, maybe year one it does well, but once the market floods with other electric crossovers, the GV60 could get forgotten.

Genesis also backed themselves into a corner with their naming scheme, they have GV 60, 70, 80, 90.  So what happens when they make a larger electric SUV?  Is that a GV75?  or a GV80-EV? 

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Drew Dowdell replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


1 hour ago, David said:

We'll I guess the GV60 will have to wait as the local Genesis dealer only has GV70, 80, 90 and G90, G80 in stock.

Genesis of Everett | Vehicles for sale in Everett, WA 98203

Even less in stock at the farther one away on the Expensive east side.

Buy a New Genesis G70, G80 or G90 | Genesis of Kirkland | New Luxury Vehicles

GV80, G70 and G80

GV60 went on sale (as “available to order”) yesterday. It’s likely very few if any dealer have them.

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David replied to Cadillac News: Cadillac LYRIQ Delivery Grows Closer.


Very cool read, missed this on the Cadillac Corp site, but seems LYRIQ is doing what GM wanted in getting a younger customer.

https://cadillacsociety.com/2022/05/18/68-percent-of-cadillac-lyriq-buyers-are-gen-x-or-gen-y/

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David replied to Random Thoughts Thread.


WOW, Missed the world premiere of the EQS SUV, but have to say MEH to this SUV as it really does nothing for inspiration. Almost as if Mercedes wants their EVs to fail.

Digital World Premiere EQS SUV - Mercedes me media (mercedes-benz.com)

Seems that Honda as they work to eventually bring EVs to market, will focus on making their core auto's all Hybrid soon in replacing ICE only. Seems CR-V, Accord and Civic will be made Hybrid only soon and then the Pilot BEV in 2024.

Honda to Focus on Increasing Hybrid Volume with Core Models: CR-V, Accord and in the Future, Civic (hondanews.com)

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