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Lucerne CXL V6 vs. AURA XR

If you were in the market, which one would you choose?  

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  1. 1. If you were in the market, which one would you choose?

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I highly doubt there is any mechanical differences. Im willing to bet the parts book for Pontiac has the same mechanical parts codes as the "different" car company. Off the shelf parts. Different sheet metal, different interior, same mechanics.

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Once difference I KNOW between the Aura and the Malibu (not sure about the G6) is hydraulic steering assist on the Aura vs electric assist on the Malibu. I'm almost certain there are notable suspension changes. Many reviews of the Aura have noted how much of an improvement the handling is in the Aura over the Malibu and even G6. They did more than just slap some different sheetmetal on the outside, and plastic on the inside. Plus, for now there is the 3.6 + 6speed differentiation.

Aura does not equal Malibu or G6, dispite the platform shared. I would expect some parts sharing, but not the extent you are making it out to be.

That said, I would still agree that buying a Lucerne is still buying into a platform & vehicle designed more for luxury. The Aura is the most "spruced up" version of its platform, which is designed more for the common midsized car. The Lucerne is the most "stripped down" of a luxury car platform. Which is better? Depends on what you want.

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The Lucerne is the most "stripped down" of a luxury car platform.

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Ehhh...if anything, the current iteration of the G-body is more advanced than ever, incorportating many suspension enhancements as well as magnetic ride control (CXS) over the last revamping in 2000. G- is below the Cadillac-exclusive K-, but (aside from magnetic ride control) only in wheelbase.

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It's amazing the difference a good suspension tuning and proper steering will make in a car.

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The GTP has been hydraulic steering. I believe GT is now too. Only a nimrod at GM would dream up some stupid electronic steering when Hydro has been just fine for decades.

Id like to hear what "suspension changes" you think they did. Different control arms ?, different sway bars ?, different springs ? , different struts ? special nemotite bushings ?....... I'll tell you how things work. There is a spring chart, it offers springs of about 3 different rates, they all have a designated code number, these codes and numbers are the same throughout the corporation. GTP has the same springs as the GT, same suspension in fact, a disappointment but you really wouldnt want one any stiffer so its OK. The base G6 has a softer rate. I bet this XR uses the same springs as the GT/GTP, same struts, same bars. This is how GM has done things for decades. The Pontiac guys always thought their Bonnevilles had special parts, better than what was used on the LeSabres and Delta 88's..........well guess who had the parts book ? and guess what the parts book proved ? When I go to Pontiac next time for service, Ill have the guys check the suspension codes for me.

GTP now also comes with the 3.6 and six speed

And where did you come up with this "The Lucerne is the most "stripped down" of a luxury car platform." ...???

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And where did you come up with this "The Lucerne is the most "stripped down" of a luxury car platform." ...???

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May not have been the best way to phrase it, but I was under the impression that it was pretty much a DeVille, but with fewer features and such. Perhaps I've put my foot in my mouth on this, IDK.

I would be interested to hear what you find out about the parts - it wouldn't suprise me if the differences aren't terribly big, and it wouldn't surpise me if it's simply a case of the Aura getting some new developments for the platform first (as evidenced by the hydro steering trickling down into the other cars - I imagine the GTP got the hydro from the start, as the Malibu SS probably did, but you mention it going to the GT). Reviews I've read (admittedly not the best source) have indicated that the Aura suspension was "tuned" differently (whatever that means). Again, I might have a case of foot-in-mouth, but I can admit to that if I'm proven wrong. I'm more intereted in the info than the arguement.

Guess I just took offense (though I'm not sure why, maybe just some Saturn prejudice) to what seemed like an opinion that the Aura & others of that platform are some sort of lowly junk, when I've seen nothing to indicate that's the case. Looking back, you compared the GTP and Aura, and that's probably a fair comparison on mechanicals & suspension, so I jumped to a conclusion.

So, I guess that means we're down to impressions about the platform/car. You were unimpressed, I was impressed. Agree to disagree?

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Having driven and experienced both, I find the Lucurene to be 10x the vehicle. The older I get the more I understand why my Grandfather bought Buicks.

If you want;

Better seats

Better ride

Better stereo

Better power

Better car

Better be a Buick

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I dunno. Personally, I'd opt for the V8 in the Lucerne :AH-HA_wink: , but since it's down to a V6 Lucerne and Aura, I'd choose the Aura.

Plus, Saturn has great dealers if that makes any difference.

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purdue - I believe the base G6 and the base "aura" are the same, then the GT/GTP suspension same as this XR. Then with the aura XR having the 3.6 6/auto like the 07 GTP, from what I understand if you want the 6 standard in 07 you get the 3.9 like our 06. If they are getting away from the "electronic steering" its because of the problems and complaints with it, not because "saturin" led the way GTP got it first, Im sure because of the complaints about the limp steering on original G6/Malibu. We really need these engineers and thier marketing/accountants to realize you dont mess with what is tried and proven, you can not replace mechanical function with electronic function and come up with something that has "feel". Electronics cant feel.

I did not say the epilson was junk, I said its no comparision in quality to the G platform. It would be a nice little car if the product guru would step away from the camera long enough to drive one for about 6 hrs straight and realize the few tiny eras that created a large unnecessary problem.

None the less B body and Epilson are not even in the same league and with opted out Epilson cost approaching mid level G Lucerne there is simply nothing to think about in my opinion. Like I said and a few others indicated you have to drive this kind of car to believe. Then you will feel like you stepped down, like I did with the GTP.

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Personally, I'd step up to the Lucerne CXS w/the Northstar. But, between the V6s, I'd take the Aura XR because it has more pep.

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I posted a reply last Thursday, but it got lost with the hacker. Anyway...

I was able to test drive both cars last week - Wednesday I drove the Saturn AURA XR and Friday I drove the Buick Lucerne CXL (V6). I liked both vehicles a lot, but clearly there's only going to be one winner here. Both were brief test drives, with the salesman in the car (:angry:) , so no long winded behind-the-wheel reviews here :hissyfit: Here are my impressions:

Saturn AURA XR

The 3.6 liter V6 is quick & peppy, smooth and very quiet. The trans shifted nicely and the car took off when you put the pedal down. You weren't punished over bumps and broken asphalt with the ride, yet it wasn't too soft. I found a very comfortable seating arrangement and quickly, and found the floor area for my left foor to be very comfortable (remember, I injured my left foot in 2005 and have a hard time getting comfortable in the Malibu). Trunk space is smaller than the Malibu, but the opening apprears bigger than the G6 (which we couldn't get our larger stroller into - we tried with my parent's '06 G6 sedan). Interior room, comfort and amenties were plentiful. Color was Cream White with the Morocco Brown leather (not my ideal choices for either selections). Overall this is a car I feel I could live with day-in and day-out; however, I think for the kind of driving the wife and I do, the XR is a little too much and an XE model might fit the bill better (btw, the chrome wheels for the XE are just the plastisteel wheels chromed - not worth the extra $200 IMO).

Buick Lucerne CXL V6

Drove a Sharkskin with Titanium (gray) leather CXL V6 model. I quickly noticed how the A-pillars tilt into the cabin (reminded me of the '99-'05 Grand Am & '99-'04 Alero greenhouse design - just not as severe). I found the driver's seat to not be as comfortbale as I thought it would be, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker. The car is big, but doesn't necessarily feel big. Either I didn't adjust the seat close enough, but I felt the dash seemed far away (though the reach to the pedals and steering wheel were fine). The floor area was comfortable for my left foot and I had plenty of space to get comfortable in the seat (maybe a little too comfy?). The 3800 V6 is still a great engine and moved the Lucerne without hesitation. The trans shifted good and provided a comfortable ride. The heated steering wheel worked quickly and is a feature I wish GM would install on more of it's product lines. Ride and handling were better than I expected, with hardly feeling any feedback from bumps and imperfect road conditions. Turning diameter wasn't as good as I thought it would be - the AURA & my Envoy offer a better turning radius. Overall I liked the car, but not as much as I thought I would. The features I can't get on the AURA are what attract me to this car - heated steering wheel, memory settings for 2 drivers, rear parking assist, chrome wheels (real wheels, not plastic covers).

I didn't get lease prices, as I didn't have the Malibu with me for a trade-in apprasial and the wife wasn't with me for her input. However, I think I'd start off getting the Lucerne pricing and end up at the Saturn dealership - just in case the AURA deal was too good to pass up. I'll post more when I have something to add.

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I agree with your sentiments about the Chromtech wheels, though they do look good for a chintzy car.

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