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The 5.0 is back at Ford!

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On haitus for the last decade, the 302 engine is being brought back, debuting in the 2008 F-150 and also finding its way into the Mustang.

The 5.0-liter V-8 crate engine will go on sale early next year. It will be available in a variety of configurations with between 340 and 500 horses of power. The base block will start at $1,759, with prices for complete engines ranging from $4,650 to $10,000.

Other than the name and the number of cylinders, there will not be a lot of similarity between the Boss 302 crate engine and the production version. While the iron-block crate engine uses old-fashioned push-rod technology, Hall said the production version will be an overhead-cam engine. It is also likely to have variable valve timing to boost fuel economy.

Fields promised to introduce a new version of the Mustang every year as part of the firm's new "Way Forward" strategy. Next year will see the introduction of the Shelby GT -- a cheaper version of the Shelby GT500 -- and the company has already announced plans to build a Bullitt version in 2008.

Sources familiar with Ford's product plans say, the new Boss Mustang follows in 2009, in time to face a challenge from the new Chevrolet Camaro and Dodge Challenger. Ford plans to introduce a completely redesigned Mustang in 2010.

In addition to the special edition Mustang and the F-150 pickup, Merkle expects the Boss to find a home in the Lincoln Navigator and Ford Expedition SUVs.

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hm.... will this be reason enough for gm to use a smaller v8 in the camaro...?

isn't that going to be a lot of $ put in for just one (or two) model(s)... unless it's going to shoot up in price for these higher than GT models...

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Other than the name and the number of cylinders, there will not be a lot of similarity between the Boss 302 crate engine and the production version. While the iron-block crate engine uses old-fashioned push-rod technology, Hall said the production version will be an overhead-cam engine. It is also likely to have variable valve timing to boost fuel economy.

So... this would be akin to GM making a completely new 307 V8 calling it a Rocket 8, dumping it in a Deville and expecting some nostalgia sales out of it....

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So they are basically going to do a 5.0 version of the 4.6? (for the production engine)

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302ci = 4.9L

-RBB

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Yes, technically it's a 4.9L...but Ford marketing has made the 302 synonymous with 5.0.

Besides, 302 / 61.02 = 4.949, which rounds up to 4.95...which also can round up to 5.0. Yeah, it's stretching it. :P

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Well we'll see what happens when it's put into a Mustang. We'll see how well the 500 HP is put to the ground; we all know what happened with the GT500.

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Oh well, it'll give Ford's Mustang a little more power... just for how much more will be the question...

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I liked the Hurricane moniker better. I don't think Boss fits an Expedition very well.

Naming preferences aside, this sounds like a winner for Ford.

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The Boss 302 is strictly the OHV crate engine. The Boss name will also be used for the unrelated production engine, and we don't know the displacement of this engine. Since the production engine will probably replace the 5.4 and the V-10, the displacement of the production engine will probably be much larger than 5 liters.

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The Boss 302 is strictly the OHV crate engine.  The Boss name will also be used for the unrelated production engine, and we don't know the displacement of this engine.  Since the production engine will probably replace the 5.4 and the V-10, the displacement of the production engine will probably be much larger than 5 liters.

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Well there were articles confirming both 5.8 and 6.2 liter displacements. Could they do a 5.0 sure but why?

Also there was an article, this may have been it, that confirmed OHC. So it is likely that the Boss engines will be like Mod motors with bigger bore spacing, and maybe the standard stroke and deck height will be the 5.4's vs the 4.6s.

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I liked the Hurricane moniker better. I don't think Boss fits an Expedition very well.

Naming preferences aside, this sounds like a winner for Ford.

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the hurricane is a completely different engine, due out in a year or so. 6.2L, don't know much else. rumor has it there are some beater crown vic P71's running around detroit as test beds. the hurricane is going to be primarily a truck ENGINE.

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Yes, technically it's a 4.9L...but Ford marketing has made the 302 synonymous with 5.0.

Besides, 302 / 61.02 = 4.949, which rounds up to 4.95...which also can round up to 5.0.  Yeah, it's stretching it.  :P

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Actually it is 302.1 which is 4.95L which can be rounded to 5.0L.

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the hurricane is a completely different engine, due out in a year or so. 6.2L, don't know much else. rumor has it there are some beater crown vic P71's  running around detroit as test beds. the hurricane is going to be primarily a truck ENGINE.

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Actually rumor has it that the Hurricane name was dropped after Katrina, Boss is in for the motors' names and will be in both cars and trucks. Expect the 5.8 to be in an F150 and Mustang varient while the 6.2 may be in a F250. The 6.2 may end up in a Mustang but that would be after the 5.8 had been out for a while. I expect the 5.8 will replace the 4.6 as the Mustang's base V8 after a few years.

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