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Wonder what the fuel economy is.

No, seriously.

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Probably good, since Toyota is trying to make their engines pull out as much HP and the best fuel economy. I was talking to a Toyota rep at the Georgian College auto show in Barrie 2 weeks ago, and he told me that Toyota has reduced the power of their V6's i.e Avalon has now 268 and not 280 or something like that. The reason is, Toyota seems to be aware that high gas prices are coming. Therefore they made their engines run on Regular 87 octane as opposed to 91 or higher. Therefore, HP drops a bit, however fuel economy increases, and you pay less at the pump because it requires Regular 87 :)

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Probably good, since Toyota is trying to make their engines pull out as much HP and the best fuel economy.  I was talking to a Toyota rep at the Georgian College auto show in Barrie 2 weeks ago, and he told me that Toyota has reduced the power of their V6's i.e Avalon has now 268 and not 280 or something like that.  The reason is, Toyota seems to be aware that high gas prices are coming.  Therefore they made their engines run on Regular 87 octane as opposed to 91 or higher.  Therefore, HP drops a bit, however fuel economy increases, and you pay less at the pump because it requires Regular 87 :)

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Um, sorry to tell you, but the rep was downright lying to you.

Avalon's hp ratings dropped because of a switch to a new SAE-approved hp rating system. Under the old scale Toyota (and many other foreign automakers) were using, hp ratings were somewhat inflated due to differences in testing and conversion to American hp units. That's why the Ridgeline dropped a few as did most Acuras. Most Nissans stayed the same or increased under the new system as did most domestics, with fluctuations here and there of +/- 1-5 hp either way.

There's no difference in actual power, though, just the numbers, like how $10 is $10 even if its 5 Pounds Sterling.

But if that's really the party line, then that's sad.

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That's the ugliest interior I've EVER seen on a new car. As far as MPG, probably 1-2 MPG better than the 4Runner on which it's based on.

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Oh boy, if the Toyota PR Machine is going to spin their decrease in horsepower into a fuel economy matter, there is no stopping the praise they will receive. I can tell you that that company is full of itself. If they took the $1,700+ per vehicle that GM spends on legacy costs out of their profits, they would fall on their face.

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Just as ugly in every way as the concept. I like the classic Fjs but this new bulbous beached walrus looking thisn is just GROSS!!! And WTF is up wiht that B/C-pillar that is as thick as a barn door is wide? This may come off as just more Toyota bashing but rest assured I actaully like the styling of the new IS Lexus and the Current Gen. highlander has grown on me... and the same goes of the Lexus GX... but his thing is just GROSS! :puke:

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This is supposed to appeal to the twenty/thirty something crowd... well it doesn't! Am I the only one that finds absolutely nothing appealing about this vehicle? It appears the concept was shorter where this one is disproportionately longer hence, losing its appeal.

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I can just see the headlines now: "Automatically the best vehicle ever made. No testing required." or "Cheap looking interior materials are in. The FJ cruiser leads the way. American automakers are still producing car interiors with expensive looking soft touch plastics reinforcing the fact that they're behind the times." and finally "If you don't like this car; you're a fascist, conservative, racist, piggy who likes to destroy the planet driving American vehicles."
I could write more, but it would just give them ideas.

I am sorry, from what I have been reading I could’ve sworn that retro was over. Now that Toyota is doing it, retro will suddenly be "cool" again and everyone needs to make this car so they can later be made fun of by the automotive press for making a copycat of the "awesome" FJ Cruiser.

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Probably good, since Toyota is trying to make their engines pull out as much HP and the best fuel economy.  I was talking to a Toyota rep at the Georgian College auto show in Barrie 2 weeks ago, and he told me that Toyota has reduced the power of their V6's i.e Avalon has now 268 and not 280 or something like that.  The reason is, Toyota seems to be aware that high gas prices are coming.  Therefore they made their engines run on Regular 87 octane as opposed to 91 or higher.  Therefore, HP drops a bit, however fuel economy increases, and you pay less at the pump because it requires Regular 87 :)

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OMG! This is one of the most rediculous things I've ever heard.....and I can't believe YOU fell for it being an auto enthuseist. I guess that's what happens when you drink the Toyota Kool-Aid with blinders on. If you fell for it, then some poor schmuck that just wanders off the street into a Toyota showroom doesn't even have a chance. The guy/gal will buy a car on the spot because they will be so amazed that this giant Japanese company is deciding to reduce their "excess" horsepower in order to save us Americans some gas. :o

Higher octane actually nets you better fuel economy. http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons//AH-HA_wink.gif

Stop the EVIL Toyota PR Machine!!

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OMG!  This is one of the most rediculous things I've ever heard.....and I can't believe YOU fell for it being an auto enthuseist.  I guess that's what happens when you drink the Toyota Kool-Aid with blinders on.  If you fell for it, then some poor schmuck that just wanders off the street into a Toyota showroom doesn't even have a chance. The guy/gal will buy a car on the spot because they will be so amazed that this giant Japanese company is deciding to reduce their "excess" horsepower in order to save us Americans some gas.  :o

Higher octane actually nets you better fuel economy.  http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons//AH-HA_wink.gif

Stop the EVIL Toyota PR Machine!!

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If you use your brain before automatically being prejuduce, this about this. The fuel economy ratings are better since Toyota dropped their power curve, and if regular 87 is the cheapest gas to buy, don't you think this is the way they will attract MORE buyers, because, they can have a Toyota, that burns less, and use regular fuel, thereforeeee, you can own a Toyota with cheaper operating costs.
Oh, and from personal experience, Toyota cars have better real-world fuel economy then GM's have, even though the EPA rating claim that GM's are very fuel efficient.

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PK: :alcoholic: You're not just drinking fromt the Toyota KoolAid puch bowl my friend, you're really hitting the special sauce. The fact that you actually believe all that Toyota PR bullshit and 'smoke and mirrors reporting' is sad.

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oh, i can see the media reconcile already. "the interior may be blocky, but the tremendous door-to-dash gaps and flat-as-flat seats lend to the off-road heritage of this modern classic. kudos to toyota for keeping true to their 4x4 lineage."

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I like it, it's very hot and it will probably sell like crazy. That being said, I'm not fond of the interior. The design looks cheap, though I'm sure the materials are there. I guess Toyota was trying to go with a "rugged, industrial" type of interior to go with the overall theme of the truck but it's not working for me. PK, man, I like Toyotas just as much as you do but you cannot believe what that Toyota rep told you. It's so much bs I can smell it from where I am right now. Like others explained, HP numbers went down due to SAE specs, not because Toyota wanted to improve MPG numbers. Toyota did not drop the power curve, it's the same power curve was was found before the new SAE specs went into effect. The numbers are different, real power is not. Edit: spelling. Edited by sciguy_0504

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Oh, and as much as I hate Toyota.......I happen to like this, and it's minimalist interior. It fits the theme of the vehicle, and might keep the price down. With that said.......I hope it's an udder failure! :P

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heh...I guess I'm one of the few her that like the truck. Out of the ordinary and jsut downright cool. Nothing on the road will look like it.

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That's the ugliest interior I've EVER seen on a new car. As far as MPG, probably 1-2 MPG better than the 4Runner on which it's based on.

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Wow, that interior is downright horrible. If I go for a green exterior then do I get a nice blob of green in the interior? And to those who think the media will call it the coolest SUV, they already have. In the Nov. MT they say "You're looking at 2006's coolest SUV"

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looks like Toyota's in the business of making desirable vehicles again......everything is pretty cool except the interior, not the greatest. We've been begging GM to make a Hummer like this for years, with the right tough as balls design and emphasis, but instead they choose to focus on soccer mom vehicles.

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Interesting take, snate. I never thought about it that way. I love the truck and I'd probably buy one but the interior is pretty bad. It will not look like anything on the road and that will be the main selling point. Does any other modern car out there have 3 windshield wipers? I don't know.

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Probably good, since Toyota is trying to make their engines pull out as much HP and the best fuel economy.  I was talking to a Toyota rep at the Georgian College auto show in Barrie 2 weeks ago, and he told me that Toyota has reduced the power of their V6's i.e Avalon has now 268 and not 280 or something like that.  The reason is, Toyota seems to be aware that high gas prices are coming.  Therefore they made their engines run on Regular 87 octane as opposed to 91 or higher.  Therefore, HP drops a bit, however fuel economy increases, and you pay less at the pump because it requires Regular 87 :)

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That is probably one of the most blatant lies in the history of the auto biz.

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It's not really an insult....rereading it makes it seem like one. While I really don't care for it (or SUVs in general), at least Toyota is taking a risk. Most of their mainstream vehicles define dull...so this is refreshing. If it's priced in the 25-30K bracket then it will hit a market sweet spot. Indeed the H3 is a overall better vehicle no doubt (sans the anemic engine), it is in the 30s. Those looking for a midsize vehicle with offroad prowess don't have much to select under 30K.

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This vehicle has no appeal to me. In terms of style it's like an off-road version of the Element. However, it has very serious underpinnings. Toyota will price it right, and it will do well.

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Wow. That is one ugly truck. Almost as ugly as the Aztek. This thing will sell as well as the Ridgeline.

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Chevy needs to build a new K5 specifically to crush these things.

David

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Forget this blue piece of Donkey Snot... Chevy needs to build a C/K Blazer because it will SELL, no other reason. Make mine wiht a manual 6-speed and a 6.6 duramax. :D

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PK, man, I like Toyotas just as much as you do but you cannot believe what that Toyota rep told you.  It's so much bs I can smell it from where I am right now.  Like others explained, HP numbers went down due to SAE specs, not because Toyota wanted to improve MPG numbers.  Toyota did not drop the power curve, it's the same power curve was was found before the new SAE specs went into effect.  The numbers are different, real power is not.

Edit:  spelling.

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I guess it's me and you buddy, the lonely outcasts among GM lovers on this board :cheers: Edited by Polish_Kris

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I guess it's me and you buddy, the lonely outcasts among GM lovers on this board :cheers:

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If you don't GM products at all, and you're posting on a GM enthusiast board...

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:withstupid: I wonder why I am only registered to boards that have to do with vehicles that I like... Including here, GMI, Solstice Forum, GAGT.com, GA Owners Club, Pennocks Fiero Forums, N-Body.net, and Temple of VTEC... No offense, but I haven't really seen you say anything good about GM, so why exactly do you post here? I realize you are a friend of Ted, but come on...

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Well, I like the front...the rear is a little goofy, not horrible though...but that interior... I won't harp on "cheap looking materials" because I really could care less...it just doesn't seem like a welcoming place to spend hours in...and if I'm not going to feel comfortable behind the wheel...there is no point. And yes Kris, you were had.

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Paint it a millitary green or tan, there you have an updated WWII army jeep look alike. Seriously, I've seen such things in Battlefield 1942... Hummer may want to consider a Theta H4 :lol: Edited by ToniCipriani

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In spite of it being some sort of unholy combination of a Mini, a Hummer and an element, I kind of like it from a design standpoint. I just wonder if it will actually take sales from the Wrangler or Xterra.

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If you don't GM products at all, and you're posting on a GM enthusiast board...

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cause here I get the latest auto news, im usually in the other guys section, and it's fun having an online debate between A and B

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I actually kinda like the FJ...it reminds me a lot of the Bronco concept; a small, rugged SUV. There are a few things that could be tweaked, but I like the overall concept of it. I hope Ford brings out the Bronco and Chevy counters with a small CK Blazer as well. I could see these smaller SUVs taking off due to the decreasing demand for larger SUVs.

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Can we say, Toyota will another 40k-60k vehicle sales to their annual totals with that. Looks like they have another winner on their hands.

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The interior could do without that colorful accent in the middle, that reminds you you're not really driving a Jeep, but a joyful, happy-go-lucky Toyota. :lol:

Looks like a Honda Element's older brother:

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That's the ugliest interior I've EVER seen on a new car. As far as MPG, probably 1-2 MPG better than the 4Runner on which it's based on.

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It is terribly old/bland looking!

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I don't much care for it. The whole thing, inside and out, just looks like a big pile of geometric shapes. Seriously, the car looks like it's made out of LEGO (or maybe DUPLO... you know, those big, honkin' LEGOs for babies and retarded kids?). That big slab of blue plastic in the interior is tacky; it looks like something a Ricer would do, and, frankly, the PT Cruiser does body colour-matching interior accents waaaaaaay better:

FJ Cruiser:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/...l?recnum=008965

PT Cruiser:
http://www.miltonruben.com/pt_interior_instrpnl.jpg

Even though I don't really like the FJ Cruiser, I do admit that it was a gutsy move for Toyota to make this vehicle, given their history of very conservative vehicles. It's about the only remotely exciting, unique, and non-narcoleptic vehicle in their whole lineup. When was the last time they've had one of those?

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