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It's a pretty odd thing to say at 22 (almost 23), but I've been feeling more and more that way lately. I just found out tonight that one of my good friends from high school is engaged, another friend is getting married in June, two others are engaged, one is now married and having a baby in September, and most of them are starting to graduate from college and get jobs in the real world. I still have a year left due to my five-year program, single currently, and don't have a permanent job yet (although I'm working again this summer at the same arch firm I was at last summer). It's amazing how much has changed from a year ago...and I'll soon be out of college and living the 8-5 world.

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I thought this thread would be about your listening to a Winger or Ratt album and some kid coming up to you, asking your age.

Yeah, my pseudo-emo sister always tells me I've grown up in the wrong decade. But I've gotten her into Guns N' Roses at least, so all hope isn't lost!
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Welcome to the "Real World", but believe me, it will not get "Worse" unless you want it to. It fact, it will (should) get better.

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.... I remember 22, but then I have a good memory! :rolleyes:

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I just found out tonight that one of my good friends from high school is engaged, another friend is getting married in June, two others are engaged, one is now married and having a baby in September, and most of them are starting to graduate from college and get jobs in the real world.

Part of it may be cultural/regional...the Midwest "settles in" a little sooner than do "the coastals." Yeah, growing up in L.A., people did the college and onto the work world thing just like everywhere else. But the getting married thing seems to be a little more delayed. And, if you want delay, just look around where you are right now! The natives there tend to live at home with Mom and Dad for quite a while....that's an Italian phenomenon.

And, don't start with the getting old thing! :lol: You probably don't even know who Donna Summer is. Our print room guy (about 21 or 22) didn't know who Donna Summer was when I told him she was going to be performing at one of the casinos in either Lake Tahoe or Reno. I then made him pull up her website and described some of her songs....Oh yeah....light bulb.

Yep, another guy at my office and I were busting up: Donna Summer, Angel's Flight pants, Greg Brady hair and Cutlass Supremes. He was our CAD manager and about 41/42, so he knew it well.

BTW, when are you leaving Europe to come back to the states? It'll feel good to get home, but you will reflect a lot on all the things you saw and did.

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You want old, I remember quite well when GNR's Appetite For Distruction was released...I was in high school, rollin' in my 5.0 in S. Florida.. :)

Yeah, I was 3 when that came out, lol....but I still remember hearing Paradise City a lot in the early 90s on my little single-cassette radio and recording Def Leppard, Thin Lizzy, and AC/DC onto tapes from the classic rock station Z-92. Ahh, the memories... ^_^

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Part of it may be cultural/regional...the Midwest "settles in" a little sooner than do "the coastals." Yeah, growing up in L.A., people did the college and onto the work world thing just like everywhere else. But the getting married thing seems to be a little more delayed. And, if you want delay, just look around where you are right now! The natives there tend to live at home with Mom and Dad for quite a while....that's an Italian phenomenon.

And, don't start with the getting old thing! :lol: You probably don't even know who Donna Summer is. Our print room guy (about 21 or 22) didn't know who Donna Summer was when I told him she was going to be performing at one of the casinos in either Lake Tahoe or Reno. I then made him pull up her website and described some of her songs....Oh yeah....light bulb.

Yep, another guy at my office and I were busting up: Donna Summer, Angel's Flight pants, Greg Brady hair and Cutlass Supremes. He was our CAD manager and about 41/42, so he knew it well.

BTW, when are you leaving Europe to come back to the states? It'll feel good to get home, but you will reflect a lot on all the things you saw and did.

Yeah, I think you're right...it seems like in the Midwest, as soon as college or high school is over it's time to settle down, get married, and have kids. I'm not really interested in getting married until I'm 26 or 27...at least until after I get through the IDP and license exam.

And no, I don't know who Donna Summer is although I've heard the name before. I couldn't tell you a song she wrote without looking it up. :P I have an inkling of a feeling that she was disco?

I just got back from Europe on April 30th...I'm still recovering from jet lag and trying to get back into the old sleeping pattern. Luckily, I have a week off before I start work so it'll give me time to move into the new apartment and just relax.

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Thin Lizzy?

Now that is going back a bit of distance! :lol:

Yeah, I loved the song "The Boys are Back in Town." I remember I had the hardest time getting it recorded onto cassette because my radio sucked...to record you had to push the play and record buttons at the same time, but sometimes one of them stuck and it wouldn't start recording. One day I was all set to go and heard the song come on...I ran over and the stupid record button wouldn't depress and I got really mad started pounding on it, finally about 20 seconds into the song it started recording. That was the fourth attempt to get that song on tape...gotta love the early days of music piracy! :thumbsup:
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About the 'getting married, settled down' thing, lots of my married friends either haven't gotten married until their early '30s or are in their mid-to-late '30s are on their second marriages (they had brief starter marriages in their twenties) and are now having kids for the first time at 35-40 or more...and interestingly, all are transplants to here from elsewhere--East Coast, Midwest, West Coast..

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Black Hole Sun is still "new" music to me.

I'm 28 and I feel the same.

"Old Music" to me is Beethoven or perhaps 1930s Jazz...

Newer music is 90s Metallica.

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lots of my married friends either haven't gotten married until their early '30s or are in their mid-to-late '30s are on their second marriages (they had brief starter marriages in their twenties) and are now having kids for the first time at 35-40 or more

As long as those "starter marriages" produced no kids...

That is the ultimate "deal breaker." No child produced by another man that is still around and alive will EVER sit at my breakfast table. :lol: No 'effin way...that's someone else's baggage.

I am showing my conservative Italian Catholic upbringing where my parents drummed into our heads that "people who are single and educated and above average in attractiveness should never have to accept a divorce situation with kids at their first walk down the aisle" and that was tantamount to being disinherited (just kidding on the last part). Whenever a friend of mine who had never been married, had a degree, had a job and was reasonably attractive married someone with kids their first time through when there were other single people around to choose from, my parents would go off "Italian style" at the dinner table. I guess I've absorbed their beliefs on that one...

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Doesn't sound very Catholic to me, and I go to Latin Mass! :rotflmao:

Which part doesn't seem Catholic? It's their (and my) belief that "water seeks its own level" for a serious life decision. It says nothing about foregoing being charitable or decent or humble toward general humankind.

Latin Mass? Tu sei matto! :spin:

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I was scanning the radio earlier and came across a classic rock station playing....wait for it....wait for it....Black Hole Sun, by Soundgarden, released in 1994, when I was 10.

HA! And I'm a year older than you.

You know you're old when you look at teenagers with the same distaste that adults looked at you with when you were a teenager.

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Which part doesn't seem Catholic? It's their (and my) belief that "water seeks its own level" for a serious life decision. It says nothing about foregoing being charitable or decent or humble toward general humankind.

Latin Mass? Tu sei matto! :spin:

No, lo sei tu? Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur Nomen Tuum; ... It is the source of all things Romance, language wise. :yes:

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Yeah, I was 3 when that came out, lol....but I still remember hearing Paradise City a lot in the early 90s on my little single-cassette radio and recording Def Leppard, Thin Lizzy, and AC/DC onto tapes from the classic rock station Z-92. Ahh, the memories... ^_^

Tangential relation: It was around the time of tape-recording piracy that Deejays started the annoying habit of talking over the intro and end of songs, in order to stop piracy by degrading the product. Unfortunately, as they really like to hear themselves talk, this nasty habit has kept up well after the days of the audio cassette.

No, lo sei tu? Pater noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur Nomen Tuum; ... It is the source of all things Romance, language wise. :yes:

adveniat regnum tuum, fiat voluntas tua, panem nostrum cotidianum da nobis hodie. . . aaaaaaand I don't remember the rest. Oh well, I always was more of an Ave Maria man anyway.

And finally, to Mustang: I feel ya, man. I know a lot of people who think it's a good idea to get engaged and married before they're out of college. My girlfriend's roommate got engaged this year, in one of the funniest ways I've ever heard. Her boyfriend took her out to a romantic dinner, great time to propose right? Nah. So they get home, and they're on the couch, and i guess they started to fool around (I didn't ask for details) and she jokingly said "you just want me to be my sex slave." His reply: "No, I want you to be my wife. But there's one question you have to answer first."

But wait, it gets better. At time of proposal, he didn't have a ring. Not that big a deal, they are both college students, not exactly rich on cash, so he promises to get her one later. But he does get her World of Warcraft character a virtual ring as a token of his undying devotion.

He also decided that due to human rights/environmental reasons, he wanted to get her a synthetic diamond. Of course, they're also much less expensive, so we all think he's just being cheap. And as of right now (about 6 months after the fact) he still hasn't gotten her a ring, but you'll be happy to know that he has gotten the upgrade pack to World of Warcraft.

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Are you trying to impress me? Latin is near and dear to my heart! :smilewide:

Haha, It's not often that I meet fellow Latin geeks. Between high school and college, I took six semesters of the mother tongue, and still can't speak the language worth a crap, but it has given me a great appreciation for the Roman culture and society as well as a love of etymology.

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Haha, It's not often that I meet fellow Latin geeks. Between high school and college, I took six semesters of the mother tongue, and still can't speak the language worth a crap, but it has given me a great appreciation for the Roman culture and society as well as a love of etymology.

It hasn't helped your English? You know as well as I do, 80% of all English words have Latin root words.

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It hasn't helped your English? You know as well as I do, 80% of all English words have Latin root words.

Okay, so it's done that too. I can't tell you how many times I've had to yell at my friends for trying to make the plural of "penis" into "penii" instead of "penes." Uncultured heathens. :censored:

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Okay, so it's done that too. I can't tell you how many times I've had to yell at my friends for trying to make the plural of "penis" into "penii" instead of "penes." Uncultured heathens. :censored:

Hmmmm, I was thinking of a different kind of root, other than the one you mentioned. But to each their own. :smilewide:

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It's amazing how much has changed from a year ago...and I'll soon be out of college and living the 8-5 world.

Indeed!

Things do change ... but that's life.

We were reminiscing at dinner the other night about "old times" ... and what we used to do as kids ... and how we sometimes act like our parents now.

*shudders*

That made ME feel old ... he he ... and I'm only 33.

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Sometimes I feel that way too and I am only 31. I still live with my parents though I help them out and pay them quite a bit to be there. All of my friends are married and with kids. Now I dont hardly get to see them at all. I am to the point I dont like people pushing their relationships on me as far as their problems or arguements. I dont care about how they spend their free time or other things. Also my taste for music may seem a little old fashioned compared to the younger 18-20 somethings. I dont think 50-cent is somebody to look up to. Surviving a few bullet wonds because you were a retard and joined a gang isnt cool. I dont get into the rest of that scene and the music that goes with it. Give me some good old fashioned Ozzy Osbourne,Slipknot, Alan Parsons and other things. I dont get into 50Cent,or any of that other stuff.

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Sometimes I feel that way too and I am only 31. I still live with my parents though I help them out and pay them quite a bit to be there. All of my friends are married and with kids. Now I dont hardly get to see them at all. I am to the point I dont like people pushing their relationships on me as far as their problems or arguements. I dont care about how they spend their free time or other things. Also my taste for music may seem a little old fashioned compared to the younger 18-20 somethings. I dont think 50-cent is somebody to look up to. Surviving a few bullet wonds because you were a retard and joined a gang isnt cool. I dont get into the rest of that scene and the music that goes with it. Give me some good old fashioned Ozzy Osbourne,Slipknot, Alan Parsons and other things. I dont get into 50Cent,or any of that other stuff.

ditto

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I came to the realization that I am actually NO LONGER 'a kid' this year when I realized that on May 12th I will be the age that my parents were when they had me.... (25) Where the hell has the time gone? Oh, and I found 2 gray hairs in my goatee a couple of months ago and flipped the f**k out.

Like you, it really bothers me... I've had sort of a first quarter crisis. And I'm tired of always being a DAMN "era" too late. I love muscle cars (60s) I love thrash metal (80s) I love rural lifestyle, I love american cars (No longer in style) I actually have beliefs and values unlike most kids today and I HATE the effing ghetto culture that everyone seems to be thinking they're a part of these days. I've come close to being charged with assaulting a minor a few times over the past few years (LOL) I'm tired of all these 'fity' wannabes thinking they're hardcore when you know they'd run crying to mommy if ever truly confronted. I'm just a very nostalgic and 'classic' person I guess.

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Sometimes I feel that way too and I am only 31. I still live with my parents though I help them out and pay them quite a bit to be there. All of my friends are married and with kids.

Now I dont hardly get to see them at all. I am to the point I dont like people pushing their relationships on me as far as their problems or arguements.

Don't feel too bad. After I finished grad school, I moved in with my parents...partly because they had a very nice home that I found for them 2 weeks before I went off to grad school. It was a bad decision on my part. I had lived in Atlanta on my own prior to moving back West, had bought a house, loved the independence, and most of all, loved not having to argue with anybody. My parents, being both Italian and neurotic, were a little too overbearing for how I had mellowed out and arguments were the order of the day...I subsequently moved up to Seattle and bought my own place once I became licensed in my field.

As far as your married friends go, I found that the married ones WITHOUT kids kept the friendship going as usual. This would include my best college friend in S.D.. I frequented both him and his wife the same way we hung out together in college. Now, my friends WITH kids fell off the face of the earth. No big loss, as far as I'm concerned. Only two friends of mine, one who is an accountant and the other who is a mech. eng., who live in Sacramento have kept up the friendship even after having kids. They're cool.

Don't be hard on yourself, Equinox!

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Whatever you do, don't become Stepford Parents. I used to have a lot of straight friends when I was younger and maintained most of those relationships once they got married (providing I got along with their spouses!), but soon lost track of all of them after they had kids. It isn't just that they no longer had time to get together or do anything - it is like their "self" ceased to exist. They had no time (or energy) for any of their own personal interestes of hobbies. It was kind of scary. It's no wonder so many marriages destintegrate: even if they survive the stress of 20+ years of raising kid(s), often when the kid(s) have finally left home the husband/wife don't even recognize the person sitting across the breakfast table from them.

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maintained most of those relationships once they got married (providing I got along with their spouses!)

Mr. Carbiz:

Many wives feel "threatened" by their husbands' single friends. As one single friend put it, they almost view you as a "rogue," though that might not be the case. My thought is that any man out there who lets their wife dictate how a previous friend will be viewed and treated is "p*s*y whipped." Period.

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