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IL Insider: 2009 Ford F-Series

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IL Insider: 2009 Ford F-Series

Date posted: 07-12-2007

DEARBORN, Mich. — The Ford Motor Company will spend an estimated $1.7 billion to overhaul its F-series pickups for model-year 2009.

It's not a full ground-up redesign, but the 2009 F-150 will get a bold new face with the Blue Oval's signature three-bar grille as well as revised side panels and rear end. Perhaps the biggest change is a much larger crew-cab variant, which is getting a 6-inch stretch and a fold-flat rear seat, IL has learned.

Developed under the code name P415, the '09 F-series may be shortchanged in the powertrain department, according to suppliers, who say Ford won't have either a diesel engine or a gasoline V6 available when the revised trucks begin production about 12 months from now.

Ford is developing its own 330-horsepower 4.4-liter turbodiesel V8 for the F-series, but insiders say the engine may not be ready until model-year 2011. A gasoline V6 isn't expected until model-year 2010.

Also delayed is the much-ballyhooed "Boss" 6.2-liter V8 (known earlier by the code name "Hurricane"). The big 425-hp gasoline V8, mated to a six-speed automatic transmission and earmarked especially for commercial users, has been pushed back until model-year 2011, according to suppliers. The engine is expected to employ such advanced technology as twin turbochargers, direct injection and cylinder deactivation, to provide the optimum combination of performance and fuel economy.

When the face-lifted F-series is introduced in fall 2008, only three gasoline V8s are expected to be offered: two- and three-valve versions of the 4.6-liter V8 and a three-valve 5.4-liter V8.

Although Ford currently offers a 355-hp 6.8-liter gasoline V10 and a 325-hp 6.0-liter PowerStroke diesel from Navistar International as options in its Super Duty pickups, neither engine fits into the light-duty F150.

The new F-series will be available in three body styles: regular cab, extended cab and crew cab. The four-door model is said to be roomier than the Dodge Ram Mega Cab and larger than the Toyota Tundra Crew Max.

The F-series cabin gets an extensive makeover, with new instrument panels, consoles, seats and door trim. Ford's truck interiors continue to move upscale in appointments and quality, and the '09 model should raise the bar a bit further.

Industry watchers expect to see the 2009 F-series officially break cover in January at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show.

What this means to you: Will the long-lived F-series continue to lose ground to newcomers like Toyota's Tundra, or will an expensive face-lift buy its troubled parent a bit more time until it can afford a full redesign?

source:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=121668

Edited by NINETY EIGHT REGENCY
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I read this an am very disappointed in Ford. As usual with them lately., it's a refresh not a redesign. But what's more disturbing is the powertrain lineup. It's still going to be saddled with the same underpowered (compared to the competition) engines it has now for another few years...will it even get a transmission upgrade? Meanwhile, from what we've heard, Dodge is pulling all the stops out for the new Ram, including what sounds like killer powertrains.

Ford needs to do more than just make the F-150 look different if they want to stay ahead of GM.

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I read this an am very disappointed in Ford. As usual with them lately., it's a refresh not a redesign. But what's more disturbing is the powertrain lineup. It's still going to be saddled with the same underpowered (compared to the competition) engines it has now for another few years...will it even get a transmission upgrade? Meanwhile, from what we've heard, Dodge is pulling all the stops out for the new Ram, including what sounds like killer powertrains.

Ford needs to do more than just make the F-150 look different if they want to stay ahead of GM.

The current one has only been around since '04 and hasn't had an MCE yet, though, so a refresh is ok at this point...

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The current one has only been around since '04 and hasn't had an MCE yet, though, so a refresh is ok at this point...

Yeah but I wonder if this will be the only "refresh" or merely the first. Look at the SuperDuty, Focus, Ranger, and Crown Victoria.

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Here's some info from BON:

OK this is what I have gathered from a bunch of sources:

The truck will launch in 2008 with:

4V DOHC 3.7l V6 (about 280 ft.lbf at 2000 rpm) (not sure about transmission)

3V SOHC 4.6l V8 with 6speed auto (Explorer combo - 292 hp and 300 lb.-ft)

3V SOHC 5.4l 6speed auto (Expedition combo - 300 hp and 365 lb.-ft ) - likely with somewhat more power than this

NO BOSS ENGINES

2009 1/2 Model (Februaury 2009) will add:

2V SOHC 6.2l V8 BOSS engine with 6speed auto (about 400hp)

2010 Model (fall 2009) will add:

DOHC 4.4l Common Rail Diesel with CGI block (315hp and 520 lb-ft)

4V DOHC 3.5l V6 - Twin Turbocharged Direct injected (Twin Force - 350hp, 380 lb-ft at 2000 rpm)

2011 or 2012 model will add:

4V DOHC 6.2l V8 - Twin independent variable cam timing, twin turbocharged, direct injected (Twin Force - over 650 lb - ft)

Igor

I wouldn't worry too much, the Escape and Taurus are merely "refreshes" and look how well both have started out. Ford will keep the momentum going by staggering the releases rather than having it all available at once...most manufacturers do this. And I would rather have Ford take the time to get it right than screw up and get all kinds of bad press.

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So this is simply a major MCE, for the most part. I don't think it will hurt Ford too much because it is the F-150 afterall, and even if it's not the best truck it will sell very well (it's the Camry of pickups). The T900s will still be better if there are not more major changes than the article makes it sound like, though. The T800s went from '98-06/07 with an MCE in '03 so having the F-150 go from '04 to '12/13 with an MCE in '09 would be similar. The T800s were getting really long in the tooth, though.

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Here's some info from BON:

I wouldn't worry too much, the Escape and Taurus are merely "refreshes" and look how well both have started out. Ford will keep the momentum going by staggering the releases rather than having it all available at once...most manufacturers do this. And I would rather have Ford take the time to get it right than screw up and get all kinds of bad press.

Well judging by the Ranger and Focus...they really like taking their time....yet to get it right though.

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