TE-based SAAB 9-4x to get Motori diesels

[Flybrian]

Crossover sales are just replacing body on frame. SUVs on a whole are not a rapid growth market.

If The CTS selling half of the 3-series is a success because the 3-series is a 15 year leader, then what is Lexus? Cadillac lead the US in luxury sales for 55 years in a row, Lexus started making cars 88 years after Cadillac started, and Lexus is selling about 150% as many units. That sickens me. I don't want to see Cadillac introduce 8 models just for the sake of having volume, total brand sales I don't worry so much about, but I'd like to see 5 products that are world class and sell worldwide.

Lexus also stacks the deck with the absolutely mediocre, budget non-first-tier ES and rode the SUV wave as much as anyone. The 'core' models they love espousing about are stagnant and the GS is tanking like nuts.

[Northstar]

Crossover sales are just replacing body on frame. SUVs on a whole are not a rapid growth market.

If The CTS selling half of the 3-series is a success because the 3-series is a 15 year leader, then what is Lexus? Cadillac lead the US in luxury sales for 55 years in a row, Lexus started making cars 88 years after Cadillac started, and Lexus is selling about 150% as many units. That sickens me. I don't want to see Cadillac introduce 8 models just for the sake of having volume, total brand sales I don't worry so much about, but I'd like to see 5 products that are world class and sell worldwide.

So you're complaining that Cadillac is introducing a new model because you somehow know that it won't be world class?

[ZL-1]

Just glad its not this piggie:

BIG PIGGY

You're right: I heard that the Tundra piggie snaps on occasion

[RJB]

The 9-4X better not be a spin-off of the new Hummer H4 or I will be quite disappointed and I may throw a temper tantrum if this happens.

[jbartley]

The 9-4X better not be a spin-off of the new Hummer H4 or I will be quite disappointed and I may throw a temper tantrum if this happens.

that doesn't make any sense.

it would have to be the other way around. the 9-4x was approved before the H4 was. And that doesn't make sense either? A theta/epsilon h4? blasphemy!

if the H4 is a "wrangler" competitor, it'll be the real deal, no silly FWD.

[Mule Bakersdozen LS]

Okay, so who will 9-4X/BRX rival? Will they be compacts like Acura RDX and BMW X3, or will they be mid-size like the Lincoln MKX, Lexus RX, and Acura MDX.

[RJB]

The H4 has been in the works waaaayyyy before the 9-4x trust me, and it was just a hypothetical scenario. But of course the H4 will not be fwd, but it would not be hard to have them both as awd.

[Drew Dowdell]

Crossover sales are just replacing body on frame. SUVs on a whole are not a rapid growth market.

If The CTS selling half of the 3-series is a success because the 3-series is a 15 year leader, then what is Lexus? Cadillac lead the US in luxury sales for 55 years in a row, Lexus started making cars 88 years after Cadillac started, and Lexus is selling about 150% as many units. That sickens me. I don't want to see Cadillac introduce 8 models just for the sake of having volume, total brand sales I don't worry so much about, but I'd like to see 5 products that are world class and sell worldwide.

Cadillac never played in the 3-series market except for the laughable Cimmaron.

Cadillac never played in "entry sport lux" before because it didn't exist before being created by BMW and Audi. Taking the Cimmaron out of the picture, in 1980 Cadillac's smallest vehicle was the Eldorado. 1990, The smallest vehicle Cadillac made was again the Eldorado <not counting the overpriced Allante'>. In 2000 the smallest Cadillac was the Catera, a car geared more toward the C and E Class than the 3-series.

So yeah, Cadillac came from not having an entry in the market to having a car with 50% of the sales of the segment leader AND developing a good reputation at the same time.

Wouldn't it be amazing for BMW to come out in 2008 with a full sized luxury truck to compete with the Escalade but in only one bodystyle? Wouldn't BMW lovers be tap dancing if it had a sales rate 50% of all 3 body styles of Escalade?

Edited September 17, 2007 by Oldsmoboi