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Vauxhall Antara

We’re disappointed with the Antara. Its abilities are limited – we expected better.

On the road price: £19,955 - £26,320

For: Swish styling, quite upmarket, lots of kit

Against: Sub-standard underpinnings, way too pricey

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Vauxhall Antara

Driving

Don’t bother with the gutless 2.4-litre petrol – the 2.0-litre diesel is the Antara’s best engine. It still lags behind rivals, but pulls well from low revs and retains its composure, even when worked hard. Unfortunately, both the brakes and sloppy gearbox are poor, while body control over uneven tarmac is unnerving. It bounces over bumps rather than absorbing them, rolls heavily and has vague steering. It’s not even that great off-road, with none of its rivals’ trick 4WD systems. At least the soft ride ensures the Vauxhall is soothing on smooth roads – self-levelling suspension is standard on all diesels.

Marketplace

Vauxhall has sat on the sidelines of the compact SUV sector, after arguably inventing it back in the 1990 with the crude Frontera. The handsome Antara marks its return, competing with sector leaders like the Land Rover Freelander, Honda CR-V and Toyota RAV4. It shares its platform with the cheaper Chevrolet Captiva – which, unlike the Antara, offers seven seats. The range comprises E, S and SE, with all boasting a high level of equipment, including air con, ESP and hill descent control. There’ s a single five-door bodystyle, permanent four-wheel-drive for all variants, and just the two engines – with the diesel offering both manual or optional automatic gearboxes.

Owning

The cabin is finished to a high standard, and edges its rivals in terms of design and material quality. The seats are comfortable, but could do with more under-thigh support, while in the rear there’s average leg and headroom, and a flat floor which makes it easy to pack in three people. Unfortunately, the boot opening is narrow, the load lip is high, and the 370-litre capacity simply too small. Furthermore, while equipment levels are high, so too are the list prices – and won’t be well supported by glittering residuals. It’s not even that economical, with the diesel averaging 29mpg in our hands. We also can’t help but think Vauxhall’s decision not to offer seven seats is short-sighted.

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How can this same vehicle get good reviews over here and have so many negatives over there? Anyway, that brown/black interior looks great.
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I think a sport suspension option would make a huge improvement. They offer it in the Redline, but that comes with a cheesy body kit and an extra $2K on the sticker.

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The main problem with the Brits, is they don't like any cars that originate from Germany or America. They are bitter about American and German car companies coming in and buying up their iconic brands! Wow I said that with a straight face! :smilewide:

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Well, the British have only themselves to blame with that. Their British companies did not grow enough to survive without being bought up. Perhaps they should save their pounds and start up Imperialism again if that will warm their scones. :P

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The Brits making fun of American cars always reminds me of what it would

be like if Forest Gump made fun of Stephen Hawkins. They need to STFU

and remmeber that the inability for a NEW car to start on a humid day is

usually not acceptable to most consumers.

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The main problem with the Brits, is they don't like any cars that originate from Germany or America. They are bitter about American and German car companies coming in and buying up their iconic brands! Wow I said that with a straight face! :smilewide:

Interesting. German cars (Ford, BMW, Opel and VW) account for practically every monthly top 10 spot in the UK sales charts, so I think you need to get your facts straight.

Whatsmore, the Antara isn't German or American; it's Korean. It's essentially a rebodied Daewoo Winstrom/Chevrolet Captiva, and the Antara is sold as the Captiva Maxx in Australasia, the GMC Terrain in the Middle East, and as the Vue in North America. There are better rivals in the UK from BMW, Land Rover and Toyota. Furthermore, as long as the UK car industry is preserved - incidentally that's an industry which today employs almost a million people - nobody really cares who holds the companies' share certificates.

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Interesting. German cars (Ford, BMW, Opel and VW) account for practically every monthly top 10 spot in the UK sales charts, so I think you need to get your facts straight.

Whatsmore, the Antara isn't German or American; it's Korean. It's essentially a rebodied Daewoo Winstrom/Chevrolet Captiva, and the Antara is sold as the Captiva Maxx in Australasia, the GMC Terrain in the Middle East, and as the Vue in North America. There are better rivals in the UK from BMW, Land Rover and Toyota. Furthermore, as long as the UK car industry is preserved - incidentally that's an industry which today employs almost a million people - nobody really cares who holds the companies' share certificates.

You know Ford's American right? It's not a "German car" even if the vehicles are designed for Europe, the company is still American.

British critizim over AAmerican cars is laughable, since it wasn't until their marques were bought up by other companies their products would be riddled with poor quality.

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You know Ford's American right? It's not a "German car" even if the vehicles are designed for Europe, the company is still American.

British critizim over AAmerican cars is laughable, since it wasn't until their marques were bought up by other companies their products would be riddled with poor quality.

in the sense that Opel's engineered in Germany are German and Ford's designed in Germany are German. Not the origin of the company.

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Actually, Ford still produces a bunch of cars in the UK...that may end soon, but they still have at least one or two chugging along.

Vauxhall only exists in the UK...absolute Opel rebadges, nothing more.

This vehicle was developed in Korea and Germany, IIRC. It's cheaper cousin, the Chevy Captiva, is made in Korea and sold with a 7 seat option.

With all due respect to previous posters, the Saturn Vue has gotten mixed reviews in the States. Most criticisms have centered around weight and interior size.

Most complimentary reviews emphasized quality and euro-handling--both of which have a different set of expectations in the UK car market.

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Most of the criticisms are warranted, IMO. Up here, GM owned the market, along with Suzuki and the '99 redo of the Tracker was miles ahead of what the Rav4 and CRV had to offer, but then (as usual) GM let the model rot, then summarily yanked it. We lost a lot of customers who came looking for replacements for their Tracker, turned their noses up at the Equinox and kept on looking.

And where is this Chevy Captiva? In the Land of Four Dollar Gas, we could use a strong 4 cylinder CUV.

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How can this same vehicle get good reviews over here and have so many negatives over there?

A simple Law of Life: one can't please all the people all the time.

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You know Ford's American right? It's not a "German car" even if the vehicles are designed for Europe, the company is still American.

British critizim over AAmerican cars is laughable, since it wasn't until their marques were bought up by other companies their products would be riddled with poor quality.

Ah, if only the world was that simple! Trouble is, it isn't. Ford-Werke GmbH is a German company, and they are also responsible for the central development of all Ford of Europe products. Ford GB Ltd is British, and home a number of commercial vehicle production lines and engine plants. Both companies are just two subsidiaries of Ford of America. That does not make a German Ford an American car, in fact far from it. When a UK company (via Ford of Europe) tried exporting the Escort RS Cosworth to the States in limited numbers, Ford of America wanted nothing to do with the car; in the event a deal was made with a number of specialist importers - and Ford of America stipulated the cars be broken down into kit form, with all Ford badging removed.

British criticism is not laughable. It wants cars suitable for the UK market, and to that end there are better rivals already in the UK market than the Antara. The Antara isn't American, it's Korean (developed from the Daewoo Winstrom/Chevrolet Captiva) with a German badge.

The indigenous British car industry's demise came about by overbearing union control in the 1970's, and a very promising partnership with Honda was ultimately besieged by Margaret Thatcher's government after they sold Rover to BAe who in turn sold the company for a tidy profit to BMW. Back in the 1970's many countries produced awful cars in the wake of the fuel crisis: Britain, America, Italy and France are prime examples of automotive garbage from that era.

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Actually, Ford still produces a bunch of cars in the UK...that may end soon, but they still have at least one or two chugging along.

Vauxhall only exists in the UK...absolute Opel rebadges, nothing more.

This vehicle was developed in Korea and Germany, IIRC. It's cheaper cousin, the Chevy Captiva, is made in Korea and sold with a 7 seat option.

With all due respect to previous posters, the Saturn Vue has gotten mixed reviews in the States. Most criticisms have centered around weight and interior size.

Most complimentary reviews emphasized quality and euro-handling--both of which have a different set of expectations in the UK car market.

These days Vauxhall and Opel share the same products, and this has been the case since the mid 1970's. Since the mid 1980's, they have been identical apart from the badge. Even the badge itself has been identical since 1991, when Opel used Vauxhall's Astra nameplate to replace its Kadett.

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Ah, if only the world was that simple! Trouble is, it isn't. Ford-Werke GmbH is a German company, and they are also responsible for the central development of all Ford of Europe products. Ford GB Ltd is British, and home a number of commercial vehicle production lines and engine plants. Both companies are just two subsidiaries of Ford of America.

By that logic American Honda Motor Co. and Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America (TEMA) should be considered American companies.

I was very surprised in parts of Europe that there is a strong perception that Opel is an American brand, although I didn't agree with them, I just had to accept that's what they thought.

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I was thinking just that: how many Brits think Vauxhall is still 'British?' Considering how expertly Toyota and Honda have convinced us Americans that they are 'American,' I would bet GM has managed to pull the wool over a lot of British eyes.

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I was thinking just that: how many Brits think Vauxhall is still 'British?' Considering how expertly Toyota and Honda have convinced us Americans that they are 'American,' I would bet GM has managed to pull the wool over a lot of British eyes.

Watch Top Gear and your questions will be answered.

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Watch Top Gear and your questions will be answered.

Yeah, go into the Pontiac section of the forums and find where I posted the VXR8 video. They know who made it and where it came from.

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By that logic American Honda Motor Co. and Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America (TEMA) should be considered American companies.

I was very surprised in parts of Europe that there is a strong perception that Opel is an American brand, although I didn't agree with them, I just had to accept that's what they thought.

Honda Motor Manufacturing of America and TEMA are indeed American companies. They are articled in the United States, not Japan. They're wholly-owned subsidiaries of Honda and Toyota of Japan respectively. The products they build however are largely conceived, engineered and developed in Japan.

This contrasts sharply with Ford's and GM's subsidiaries in Europe, which have been in place for 80-90 years. Ford of Europe and GM Europe's companies operate almost entirely autonomous of their American parents and the products they sell are conceived and developed practically entirely in Europe.

I don't know what parts of Europe Opel is considered American, I've worked in connection with the motor industry for twenty years and never once have I encountered such a notion.

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I was thinking just that: how many Brits think Vauxhall is still 'British?' Considering how expertly Toyota and Honda have convinced us Americans that they are 'American,' I would bet GM has managed to pull the wool over a lot of British eyes.

Vauxhall Motors Limited is a British company. It is incorporated in England & Wales with Companies House, articled in England & Wales, operates under UK company law and draws accounts up to UK accounting standards. The company is headquartered in Luton, Bedfordshire.

It is however a wholly-owned subsidiary - in terms of the amount paid up on its issued ordinary share capital - of General Motors Corp. in the United States.

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So now we know who Japan Inc has fashioned their assault after. If the Brits and Germans are convinced that Vauxhall and Opel are 'European,' that bodes badly for North America. Already, half the Canadians I know would sniff that Toyota is 'Canadian' just because a few of them are slapped together here.

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Actually, Ford still produces a bunch of cars in the UK...that may end soon, but they still have at least one or two chugging along.

Vauxhall only exists in the UK...absolute Opel rebadges, nothing more.

This vehicle was developed in Korea and Germany, IIRC. It's cheaper cousin, the Chevy Captiva, is made in Korea and sold with a 7 seat option.

With all due respect to previous posters, the Saturn Vue has gotten mixed reviews in the States. Most criticisms have centered around weight and interior size.

Most complimentary reviews emphasized quality and euro-handling--both of which have a different set of expectations in the UK car market.

The Opel/Vauxhall Antara in Europe are also assembled in Korea alongside the Captiva. Only the NA-spec Antara/VUE is made in Mexico.

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I don't know what parts of Europe Opel is considered American, I've worked in connection with the motor industry for twenty years and never once have I encountered such a notion.

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During the height of the anti-American sentiment in Europe (US led Iraq invasion and George W. Bush re-election), then the 12,000 layoffs in GME, there was a bit of an anti-American backlash.

A German politician even claimed Opel had shifted some production from its plants in Germany to a factory in Poland, to reward the Polish government for its support of the Bush administration.

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