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1986 Buick LeSabre Grand National

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Anyone remember the turbo LeSabre coupe from '78? I haven't seen one of those in at least 25 years.

There's one that's been sitting on flat tires rotting away in the back lot of a tow yard for the last two years that's a mile from my house. Has 90,000 miles on it and the burgundy interior is beyond mint. It was a beautiful metallic gunmetal gray before it all rusted off. Factory Buick rally wheels complete the look, and every single little trinket and piece of trim is present. Supposedly it even starts and runs and drives. Every time I go in to ask how much, the price goes up because THAT'S A GRAND NATIONAL, Y'KNOW! THEY GO FOR ALL KINDSA MONEY ON EBAY!

Right. That's why it's still sitting exactly where you dropped it two years ago. Probably got it for free off an old man who decided he just couldn't drive anymore, too. What a shame. It's an odd variant of a BOF RWD malaise era coupe that I wouldn't mind having at the right price. Pretty sharp looking, really.

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Sorry to spout flames H.E., ...it's just that my several month long

anger/depression over the Camaro growing a dog-damn fat

ugly B-pillar from Concept to production has irritated me beyond

belief & made me think more than ever about the lack of direction

at GM and the stupid, unforgivable mistakes they've been cursed

with making for about 3 decades now....

It's disgusting, inexcusable and takes the wind right out of my sails

as far as my GM enthusiasm. :angry:

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Sorry to spout flames H.E., ...it's just that my several month long

anger/depression over the Camaro growing a dog-damn fat

ugly B-pillar from Concept to production has irritated me beyond

belief & made me think more than ever about the lack of direction

at GM and the stupid, unforgivable mistakes they've been cursed

with making for about 3 decades now....

It's disgusting, inexcusable and takes the wind right out of my sails

as far as my GM enthusiasm. :angry:

No worries budster....I'm the same. I waited to see that first news and photo of the Camaro and hope against hope it would be a proper pillarless hardtop...nope, just as I thought....crappy, stupid, dumb stationary little window. I've been pissed about it ever since...can hardly look at a photo of the car.

GM is in a habit of doing this, they cut corners or build a car to a price, trying to sell it at garage sale prices....wouldn't it be nice to sweat the details a bit and charge a bit more?!!! Make the car special?!!!!! They could have used the pillarless thing as a marketing thing, it would have added to the aura surrounding this car. A cryin shame. Don't even get me started Sylvester.

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Don't be hating me.

I just posted it as a curious piece of Buick history.

No one said it was a fire breathing Corvette.

It got caught in a change of direction for Buick.

Don't be hating me and Buick.

I wasn't hating on you or Buick, but rather hating on General Motors for becoming the sad shell of the incredible company they used to be. Look at that '70 GSX. In fifteen years time, they went from selling actual fire-breathing purpose-built muscle cars and top-notch product with awesome styling across the board in all brands to bland, generic-looking cheesy garbage and never looked back. This FWD $h!box and others like it signify the first of many nails in the General's coffin. And there ain't many nails left. As you and Sixty8 were talking about before: look at the new Camaro. The car should be a hardtop, no questions asked. Only GM could build something so incredibly perfectly awesome and then somehow f@#k it up at the last possible second. Compromising on perfection got them to the piss-poor state they're in in the first place, and it would appear as though they could give a $h! less if said pitiful state ever changes.

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Oh, believe me, I share the pain. Agree with all you said.

I sometimes think I'm a GM fan based on long ago greatness.

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Oh, believe me, I share the pain. Agree with all you said.

I sometimes think I'm a GM fan based on long ago greatness.

Yes, I can understand that... the '50s through early/mid '70s were their great era, at least as far as products go, IMHO.

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These Lesabre GNs are indeed rare but I actually prefer the T-Types to these. I can even say that these were not worthy to the Grand National name. The car doesn't even have bucket seats or leather nothing like that. It's pretty much a Lesabre Custom coupe cloth 6 passenger car. I still have my Buicks and the T-Type is all mechanically redone now. I have actually been offered a 1960 Pontiac Laurentian 2 door hardtop for free as my friend had no use as it sat in their field for a year or so and they moved. He said if I wanted the car I could have it so I am thinking it might be worth it to put it aside until I finish my other cars. Not everyday you can get a 1960 Pontiac hardtop for free so I may take advantage.

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