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Fusion Hybrid: 38 mpg city!

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Impressive!

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so isn't that basically 2x what the non hybrid is rated? that is impressive

so it's almost 2x, if you ripped out a something like 500 lbs it could easily hit 40mpg city. lol

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That is an awesome figure. Consider most 4-banger family sedans get 22-23 mpg city, the Fusion hybrid is a 15 mpg gain. This is how to get conquest buyers, there should have been a 38 mpg Malibu, not a 20 mpg Tahoe hybrid that no one wants. Ford is on the comeback, I was never a Ford fan, but I am beginning to respect them a lot.

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Isn't the hybrid technology bought from Toyota or Honda?

This myth has been debunked for years now...

Ford developed its hybrid engine independently from Toyota. Ford discovered that certain components of its engine had similarities to Toyota's design. Avoiding future litigation, Ford purchased patent rights and Toyota, interested in developing diesel technology of its own, purchased patent rights from Ford.

Nothing about Ford's hybrid has anything to do with Toyota.

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The Escape hybrid has always gotten really good city mileage, so this comes as no surprise. Why didn't Ford do this sooner?

Their hybrid system seems to really deliver in the city.

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This myth has been debunked for years now...

Ford developed its hybrid engine independently from Toyota. Ford discovered that certain components of its engine had similarities to Toyota's design. Avoiding future litigation, Ford purchased patent rights and Toyota, interested in developing diesel technology of its own, purchased patent rights from Ford.

Nothing about Ford's hybrid has anything to do with Toyota.

It explains it... So it's a TRUE hybrid?

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It explains it... So it's a TRUE hybrid?

It is a single mode, as opposed to GM's two mode system but yes it is a true hybrid.

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The Escape hybrid has always gotten really good city mileage, so this comes as no surprise. Why didn't Ford do this sooner?

Their hybrid system seems to really deliver in the city.

this is an all new Hybrid system. The 09 Escape system is still the same old system Ford has had in the old Escape as well - sure they re-tuned the software, and now dropped the new I4 in it, but it is the same hybrid system.

Ford has been working feverishly to develop this new Hybrid system for 2 reasons:

1) the Escape system is one-of - it was build for the Escape and cannot be transplanted to other engine bays. the new system is modular - it can be picked up and dropped into other vehicle, paired with other engines etc.

2) Ford was truly working on a second gen system - the batteries are stronger, lighter, smaller, and cheaper than the Escape battery. there are a TON of changes to the system and the whole hybrid module is now integrated into the transmission - well into the transmission packaging eliminating almost all the wiring associated.

So this is not just a transplant of the Escape system - and that is why it took a while. Of course Ford also wanted to release it with the big bang of the new model and all the other improvements associated.

BTW in Ford speak the Escape has Gen1/Gen1.5 Hybrid, the Fusion is Gen2, and there is Gen3 on the way (supposedly) mated to a 3.5l V6 for the Edge/MKZ/Flex/Taurus etc. Originally Gen3 was to debut at the end of next year in the facelifted 2011 Edge - but we have not heard much about it for over a year now, so we shall see.

Igor

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That is very impressive, not to mention that the Fusion itself doesn't look goony like the Prius.

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