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2006 Ford Fiesta sedan

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Ford has released their new Fiesta B-segment sedan in India this month. http://www.fordfiesta.in/

To demonstrate how things have come full circle, compare the key dimensions of this range of modern B-segment sedans with the 1995 Toyota Corolla and Sprinter.

B-segment sedan Year  Wheelbase   Length      Width      Height     Front and  Rear Track
Kia Rio         2005  2500  98.4  4240 166.9  1695 66.7  1470 57.9  1470 57.9  1460 57.5
Hyundai Accent  2005  2500  98.4  4280 168.5  1695 66.7  1470 57.9  1470 57.9  1470 57.9
Ford Fiesta     2005  2486  97.9  4282 168.6  1686 66.4  1468 57.8  1474 58.0  1444 56.9
Toyota Corolla  1995  2465  97.0  4285 168.7  1690 67.3  1385 56.1  1470 57.9  1460 57.5
Toyota Belta    2005  2550 100.4  4300 169.3  1690 66.5  1460 57.5
Toyota Sprinter 1995  2465  97.0  4310 169.7  1690 67.3  1385 56.1  1470 57.9  1460 57.5
Honda Fit Aria        2450  96.5  4310 169.7  1690 66.5  1485 58.5  1455 57.3  1440 56.7
Chevrolet Aveo  2006  2480  97.6  4310 169.7  1710 67.3  1495 58.9  1450 57.1  1430 56.3
Suzuki Aerio          2480  97.6  4350 171.3  1690 66.5  1545 60.8  1450 57.1  1445 56.9

Is it any wonder most of these sedans are (or will be) sold in the US? Edited by thegriffon
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The Fiesta is .1 inch longer than the U.S. Focus, only .3 inches narrower, and is 1 inch taller. However, its wheelbase is 5 inches shorter. Edited by ehaase
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The Fiesta is .1 inch longer than the U.S. Focus, only .3 inches narrower, and is 1 inch taller.  However, its wheelbase is 5 inches shorter.

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Therefore the hatch Fiesta makes the most sense, IMO.
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Fiesta, Aspire, Escort... As crap box by any other name is still not worth my dime.
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Fiesta, Aspire, Escort... As crap box by any other name is still not worth my dime.

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LOL...right on.

I see a really old Fiesta/Aspira/whatever every now and then and I think to myself, "don't hit a pebble."
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Fiesta, Aspire, Escort... As crap box by any other name is still not worth my dime.

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Fiesta wasn't related to the Aspire or Escort.

The Fiesta was imported from Europe from ~78-82 or there abouts.

The Festiva was a rebadged Kia Pride, based on a Mada 121.

The Aspire was based on Kia's replacement for the Pride, the Avella.

The Escort, unrelated to all of the above, was orginally a Ford design, then got placed on a Mazda 323 platform.
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Ford Fiesta in America lasted from 1977-80, and was replaced, along with the Pinto by the 1981-90 Escort. The redesigned 1991 (debuting in mid-1990 I believe) Escort was placed on the Mazda Protege (323 rode a slightly shorter wheelbase), and was redesigned on the same, unchanged platform for the 1997 model year, shedding 3 and 5-door hatchback coupe and sedan body styles, leaving only 4-door notchback sedan and 5-door station wagons, the latter of which, along with the slow-selling Mercury Tracer was dropped after the 1999 model year. In the meantime, a ZX2 2-door pillared-hardtop coupe arrived for 1998 (a Mercury version was planned, but cancelled), and lasted through the 2003 model year; the Escort sedan was dropped after 2002; relegated into fleet-only duty for 2001 after it was replaced by the Focus. The minicompact Festiva, a clone of the Mazda 121 and based on the Korean Kia Pride, was made from 1988-93, and was replaced by the redesigned Aspire for the 1994 model year, adding a 5-door hatchback sedan body style in addition to the lone 3-door hatchback coupe of the previous Festiva. Aspire was dropped after the (facelifted) 1997 models. Mercury Bobcat, a clone of the Ford Pinto was around from 1975-80, replaced for 1981 by the Escort-clone, the Lynx, offering the same 3-door hatchback coupe, 5-door hatchback sedan, and 5-door station wagon body styles, and dropped after the 1987 model year. The Mazda 323-clone Tracer replaced it for 1988, offering the Lynx's lineup of body styles, then redesigned as a sedan and wagon pair similar to the Escort for 1991. The Escort sedan debuted for the 1992 model year. I consider all pre-1997 models to be subcompacts; the last models compact, but just barely, though they have fine passenger and cargo room for their size, and Escort earns my top small car recommendation to anyone who's looking-my best friend has one and he's had few to no problems with it. Great car. Hope the history helps.
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BTW, I checked the Fiesta sedan overall length-its slightly less than the Focus ZX3/ZX5 body styles-the ZX4 (4-door notchback sedan) is 174-176" now-I don't have exact dimensions, but I know its in that range.
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BTW, I checked the Fiesta sedan overall length-its slightly less than the Focus ZX3/ZX5 body styles-the ZX4 (4-door notchback sedan) is 174-176" now-I don't have exact dimensions, but I know its in that range.

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I got my numbers from the July issue of MT, where it tested the Focus ZX4 ST, Cobalt, and a couple other small cars.
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Fiesta wasn't related to the Aspire or Escort. 

The Fiesta was imported from Europe from ~78-82 or there abouts.

The Festiva was a rebadged Kia Pride, based on a Mada 121.

The Aspire was based on Kia's replacement for the Pride, the Avella.

The Escort, unrelated to all of the above, was orginally a Ford design, then got placed on a Mazda 323 platform.

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The old pre-Mazda Escorts were pretty rugged little cars...my '84 diesel racked up 150k miles with few problems...
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US-market vehicles are quite often significanty longer due to different low-speed crash regulations. The new Fiesta sedan is longer than the first-generation Focus as sold outside the US. The new Focus sedan is significantly larger though (and altogether better integrated than the 1st generation), if not matching the new lwb Civic sedan, the 2007 Sentra, or the new Astra sedan (Chevrolet Vectra).
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Fiesta wasn't related to the Aspire or Escort. 

The Fiesta was imported from Europe from ~78-82 or there abouts.

The Festiva was a rebadged Kia Pride, based on a Mada 121.

The Aspire was based on Kia's replacement for the Pride, the Avella.

The Escort, unrelated to all of the above, was orginally a Ford design, then got placed on a Mazda 323 platform.

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I was not saying the cars were directly related. Simply that a bottom feeder Ford with skinny tires and a crappy interior is always unappealing , regardless of the decade.
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I was not saying the cars were directly related. Simply that a bottom feeder Ford with skinny tires and a crappy interior is always unappealing , regardless of the decade.

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Maybe...no worse than the bottom feeder Chevys---who can forget shitboxes like the Chevette, Sprint/Metro, or Aveo?
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Maybe...no worse than the bottom feeder Chevys---who can forget shitboxes like the Chevette, Sprint/Metro, or Aveo?

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I wouldn't really classify the Aveo as a shitbox. It serves a purpose and aside from not-as-good-as-it-should-be-mpg, it does it well. Really, the Metro did, too, and I've heard some instances of 200,000-mile Metros still running 50 miles/day five days a week.

Chevettes were just plain woeful, though. About the only reason to have one is to tell chicks you have a 'Vette and hope they never see your ride.
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US-market vehicles are quite often significanty longer due to different low-speed crash regulations. The new Fiesta sedan is longer than the first-generation Focus as sold outside the US. The new Focus sedan is significantly larger though (and altogether better integrated than the 1st generation), if not matching the new lwb Civic sedan, the 2007 Sentra, or the new Astra sedan (Chevrolet Vectra).

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Unless Ford ever decides to produce the C1 Focus in the U.S. or replace the U.S. Focus with a larger car, is there a good reason to sell the Fiesta here?
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I was not saying the cars were directly related. Simply that a bottom feeder Ford with skinny tires and a crappy interior is always unappealing , regardless of the decade.

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Not everyone can affrod a sports car or wants to drive 125 MPH on a public road.
Go to other countries and your "bottom feeder" is their 'family car'.

Sometimes people want togo from Pt. A to B and not get 10 mpg and apy huge insurance bills, and also not have to worry about "sporty" car getting vandalized, damaged, broken into.

Driving fun doesn't have to be all high HP and high speed.
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Kinda reminds me of the African-market Ikon....
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