TCC: Wanted: America's Oldest Pontiac...and Oldest Original Pontiac Owner

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Pontiac may be about to recede rapidly into automotive history, but with 84 years of Ponchos out there (1926-2010), it'll be a long time before they're forgotten.Now, a Connecticut car event wants to commemorate the brand by highlighting the oldest Pontiac still in existence. Even better, it's also looking for the oldest Pontiac that's still ..

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[hyperv6]

GM has the oldest Pontiac. It is a Burgundy coupe in the GM collection. It was the first Pontiac built.

It even says first Pontiac built on the base of the windshield the last time I saw it.

It is a very nice old car.

Now I had 3 drunks about 15 years ago with a Oakland they pulled out of a barn. It was all original but well worn. The cloth roof center was out the tires were dry rotted and there was little paint on it. But it ran good.

The up draft carb messed up on them and my buddy and I got it running. I always wondered what happen to that sedan.

They were bar hopping in this car and feeling no pain.

Edited June 18, 2009 by hyperv6

[Robert Hall]

Cool..I don't think I've ever seen in person a Pontiac older than a 1940.

[A Horse With No Name]

I've seen several from the 1930's.

Chris

[hyperv6]

You guys need to get out more often.

Most POCI shows will have many of the older cars. The Tri Power Nationals in Norwalk usally bring out a handfull of older Pontiacs and Oaklands. One guy who is there and judges is one of the best older Pontiac/Oakland restorers in the country. He brings some really nice cars.

The First Pontiac has come to this event a few times. It is still like new. I can't remember the mileage but it had few.

[Satty]

Found!

[ocnblu]

What a cool joke, Satty.

[balthazar]

A Pontiac is a Pontiac, an Oakland is an Oakland.

Oakland never 'became' Pontiac. If you think about it; its quite impossible since they co-existed for 6 years.

I read this continually in 'historical perspectives', and it got annoying a long long time ago.

I fully understand the Divisional pairings, but it still a separate division.

[Robert Hall]

A Pontiac is a Pontiac, an Oakland is an Oakland.

Oakland never 'became' Pontiac. If you think about it; its quite impossible since they co-existed for 6 years.

I read this continually in 'historical perspectives', and it got annoying a long long time ago.

I fully understand the Divisional pairings, but it still a separate division.

Puh-lease... I doubt if anyone under 90 remembers that they co-existed. You always have to be the curmudgeon, don't you? That article didn't say 'Oakland became Pontiac' and no one in this thread said that...just relax and enjoy the thread.

Rob

Edited June 19, 2009 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[hyperv6]

Puh-lease... I doubt if anyone under 90 remembers that they co-existed. You always have to be the curmudgeon, don't you? That article didn't say 'Oakland became Pontiac' and no one in this thread said that...just relax and enjoy the thread.

Rob

Thanks for saying what most of us are thinking!!

Oakland would have faded to nothing but a foot note Like the Elmore for most without the being pair with Pontiac in history, clubs and activities.

When was the last time you saw an Elmore?

I did see one at the Glenmoore gathering last fall when they featured GM cars. It was very nice, not a car you see often.

I saw the comment once that Pontiac was a companion marque to Oakland. Stated that way I thought it is the best way to express their relationship. Kind of like Peanut butter and Jelly or The Bandit and the Snowman. LOL

Edited June 19, 2009 by hyperv6

[Robert Hall]

When was the last time you saw an Elmore?

I did see one at the Glenmoore gathering last fall when they featured GM cars. It was very nice, not a car you see often.

I saw the comment once that Pontiac was a companion marque to Oakland. Stated that way I thought it is the best way to express their relationship. Kind of like Peanut butter and Jelly or The Bandit and the Snowman. LOL

I've never heard of Elmore! But I have been to Clyde.

Companion marque or brand is how GM officially designated Pontiac and the others, I think...or at least that's how it's been in books I've read. Pontiac is also the only companion marque that outlasted it's parent (LaSalle, Viking, and Marquette were all short-lived). GM kind of did the companion marque thing again in modern times with Geo and Asuna.

Rob

[balthazar]

Cubitar: >>"Puh-lease... I doubt if anyone under 90 remembers that they co-existed. You always have to be the curmudgeon, don't you?"<<

I love how pointing out a factual inaccuracy is unwaveringly associated with being a 'curmudgeon' to you!

BAH! Don't bother me with the facts!! I'm all warm-n-cosy in my ignorance over here !! Where's my Cheez-Its?

And for someone who bristles every time that's done, you sure are using an ancient, old-fogey term for it !!

You must stare for HOURS at all the strange, now-unknown people on U.S. Currency.

After all, 'no one remembers them', right ??

Who is that a-hole on the penny AND the $5, anyway??

Can we get Britney or the Jonas Bros on the money, so the general idocy at least recognizes them??

'There is nothing new in the world except the history you do not know'. -- TR

Edited June 19, 2009 by balthazar

[Robert Hall]

I love how pointing out a factual inaccuracy is unwaveringly associated with being a 'curmudgeon' to you!

Forget it. You don't get the point. Being the one that is always correcting people is considered bad taste. And no one in this thread claimed Pontiac replaced Oakland.

And yes, I do know who is on US money...big difference in important historical figures like US presidents and a long gone car brand that few remember.

Rob

Edited June 19, 2009 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[ocnblu]

Thanks, balthy, for continuing to interject factual information that some of us might find interesting.

[balthazar]

>>"Being the one that is always correcting people is considered bad taste."<<

You're personalizing it. I'm not correcting people or opinions, and none of this stuff was 'discovered' or invented by the people who post them. I'm correcting misinformation. I do not 'dress down' the individual directly... hence, why I never include labels in addressing these misstatements, such as... oh.... -say- 'curmudgeon'.

>>"And no one in this thread claimed Pontiac replaced Oakland."<<

I was heading that one off at the pass.

[Camino LS6]

Thanks, balthy, for continuing to interject factual information that some of us might find interesting.

+1

[hyperv6]

"Well you see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo and when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Now, as we know, excessive drinking of alcohol kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. And that, Norm, is why you always feel smarter after a few beers."

In reality the brain operates like a parallel processor. The more cells that are killed, the fewer operations we can accomplish in the same amount of time.

[hyperv6]

Here is the first Pontiac ever built in the GM collection.

It is a really nice car in person.

This is the only car that Pontiac made the lame First G what ever marketing program would have really worked on.

[Robert Hall]

Here is the first Pontiac ever built in the GM collection.

It is a really nice car in person.

This is the only car that Pontiac made the lame First G what ever marketing program would have really worked on.

That's cooler than the Vibe and G3, IMHO. And it looks like it has dubs. Tires are a bit too skinny, though.

[Oracle of Delphi]

Cubitar: >>"Puh-lease... I doubt if anyone under 90 remembers that they co-existed. You always have to be the curmudgeon, don't you?"<<

I love how pointing out a factual inaccuracy is unwaveringly associated with being a 'curmudgeon' to you!

BAH! Don't bother me with the facts!! I'm all warm-n-cosy in my ignorance over here !! Where's my Cheez-Its?

And for someone who bristles every time that's done, you sure are using an ancient, old-fogey term for it !!

You must stare for HOURS at all the strange, now-unknown people on U.S. Currency.

After all, 'no one remembers them', right ??

Who is that a-hole on the penny AND the $5, anyway??

Can we get Britney or the Jonas Bros on the money, so the general idocy at least recognizes them??

'There is nothing new in the world except the history you do not know'. -- TR

I'd just be happy if you learned how to use the quotes

properly

instead of this >>>>> "craziness" <<<<<. :rotflmao: Edited June 19, 2009 by Pontiac Custom-S

[Camino LS6]

I'd just be happy if you learned how to use the quotes instead of this >>>>> "craziness" <<<<<. :rotflmao:

It's called being individual.

[Robert Hall]

It's called being individual.

I think I've seen some email programs that use <<< and >>> as indentors on quoting previous messages in a text reply. Quaint.

Rob

[Oracle of Delphi]

It's called being individual.

Sure it is, they have hospitals full of individuals ...

[Camino LS6]

Sure it is, they have hospitals full of individuals ...

Don't worship the herd.

[Oracle of Delphi]

Don't worship the herd.

Now you above all, know I'm not a sheeple ...