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Would mixing A&S with the Statesman even be feasible?

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Brougham Edition

Option Package 9001:

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  • UltraFloat™ FE-3 suspension
  • Bench Seat
  • Smell Absorbent extra soft upholstery
  • column shifter
  • full digital gauges
  • On-Star with in-trunk defibrillator
  • Complimentary "little trees" pine air-freshener
  • Curb Feeler
  • Extra front overhang to worsen driving dynamics, yet add additional crush zone for safety.
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Would mixing A&S with the Statesman even be feasible?

Not really, which is why I said start with a whole new car...namely a Cadillac.

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Brougham Edition

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First of all this is not the Statesman, it's an HSV Grange.

And no, starting with another car is not an option - this is the base I want to see with Caddy cues.

Beats the $h! out of any EP2.

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The responses so far in this thread are third-grade material.
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Not a single thing about this car has anything that resembles A&S and that's why I wouldn't use it as a base. The greenhouse is wrong, the sides are wrong, it's all soft and rounded edges. It's a handsome car, and would do well as a Buick flagship, but it's not the body you would use as base for a Cadillac.

To make it work as an A&S car you'd have to use another Cadillac and graft the bits onto this, which at that point you'd only have teh RWD proportions, which the CTS, STS, SLS have already, so why bother starting with the Holden.

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Agreed on the shape of the greenhouse(at least at the rear), but not the rest - this is not a "rounded" car at all.

Think beyond the standard A&S, it's getting tired anyway.

Cadillac has decades of styling cues to draw upon.

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Point to me one sharp crease on the Holden. :P

A&S has plenty of room to grow and evolve. The Converj is proof of that.

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Try it with this:

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That would be a much better starting point.

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I can't chop, but maybe I'll work on a sketch for you Camino if I find the time. :)

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A sketch would be easier, but again, how much of the Holden would be left after you were done turning it into a Cadillac? Plus if you were sketching, might as well start fresh...since you are anyway.

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I'm going to use Zeta's proportions and dimensions as a rule of thumb.

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I'm going to use Zeta's proportions and dimensions as a rule of thumb.

Just what I had in mind...

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Well yeah, I mean that's really all you could use. If I were to do a chop I would use a Cadillac and give it the Zeta proportions. (Not trying to give you a hard time or anything YJ :P)

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Well yeah, I mean that's really all you could use. If I were to do a chop I would use a Cadillac and give it the Zeta proportions. (Not trying to give you a hard time or anything YJ :P)

Part of the reason I wanted the Holden as a base was to avoid anything like the current big Caddys.

No DTS cues, no STS cues...

I actually don't like them much.

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But then it wouldn't be a Cadillac. It would be a Holden with a Cadillac badge. To make it look like it belongs in the lineup, it should have A&S in it. You can push the design philosophy very far, much further than has been done so far, yet it will still look like a Cadillac. If you ditch the A&S you loose the creases for softer edges, the vertical tail lights, the vertical headlights, the signature greenhouse, and what you're left with is well, a Holden that looks like it could be the next Impala or a Buick.

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The only A&S designs I actually like are the Sixteen, the Cien, the Converj, and I like some aspects of the old sigma SRX.

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As far as styling goes, I'm thinking of revisiting cues on the bustleback Seville and the Sixteen concepts.

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