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500x_No-Buick-GNX.jpgIn a web chat today, GM President Fritz Henderson Buick fans would "like what you see in future Regal alternatives" but shot down the idea of the return of a Buick Regal GNX.

But maybe we're reading this wrong. He said "do not look for GNX." He didn't say "do not look for a GNX." Maybe he's saying there is a GNX and that he really doesn't want us to find it because it's so good.

OK, probably not...

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I expect perfromance models in the future but never expected the GNX name to be embraced.

GNX really does not fit the cars they are doing. The GNX was based on a GN witch stood for Grand National. This was taken from the Buicks that ran in NASCAR in the 1980's. I just don't see where that would fit the demographics they are reaching for here.

I would much rather see the name Grand Sport be used as in the more traditional Buick way. It is a little more elegant. But You can scratch that one with the Corvette already using it.

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GNX would be perfect for the demographic GM is looking at with future Buick. They don't want "elegant", their parents and grandparents did.

That's not the issue though. I'm willing to bet that GM doesn't even have the balls to produce a performance Regal.

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GNX would be perfect for the demographic GM is looking at with future Buick. They don't want "elegant", their parents and grandparents did.

That's not the issue though. I'm willing to bet that GM doesn't even have the balls to produce a performance Regal.

I'm hoping you'll be proven wrong. A fast, hot Regal will help to energize Buick's image, especially if it can compete with the Germans. Plus, I don't understand the aversion to the GNX monicker because people my age will recognize it a bit better, and it just sounds cool. If it's a Buick Regal GS, then you might as well include a cardigan and Gatsby hat.

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Not everyone on this earth wants a sedan, either. A performance Regal needs a coupe bodystyle.
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Not everyone on this earth wants a sedan, either. A performance Regal needs a coupe bodystyle.

Yes!!

I'll also add that I don't think the Insignia, even in OPC trim, isn't the proper basis for a GNX. Now, that RWD Avant sketch, on the other hand.....

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Agreed, bigtime.
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Yes!!

I'll also add that I don't think the Insignia, even in OPC trim, isn't the proper basis for a GNX. Now, that RWD Avant sketch, on the other hand.....

Who is to say they can't offer both?

The Sedan is needed as it will sell 3 to 1 in this market. A OPC based model is a needed model to be taken seriously by the people who would shop imports from Europe and to get press time. Besides it would be cheap to do since it is already being built.

A Avant type car is also something that could and should be done but I sure as hell would not slap a GNX on it. Buick could and should do better than slap a old name on a car this far removed from the past crap they made in the 80's.

The GNX was a cool and neat car but it still was just a Regal.

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I would much rather see the name Grand Sport be used as in the more traditional Buick way. It is a little more elegant. But You can scratch that one with the Corvette already using it.

Actually.....the name Buick used was "Gran Sport."

But that's also probably too close to "Grand Sport."

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Buick needs a RWD coupe? Hmm....

Buick needs a V6 Turbo? Hmm...

Buick needs something that can be limited production without a burden to their overall R&D costs?

Why not give the Camaro LT a Buick face, portholes, and interior then put a turbo on the 3.6L.

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Question: With the likely revival of the Regal, what are the chances of seeing the Insignia OPC bring the GNX back to life?

Fritz Henderson: think you will like what you see in future regal alternatives (ala opc alternatives), but do not look for gnx.

IDK, but it seems to me Fritz is saying that the hardware will be there, but the badging won't be GNX.

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Buick needs a RWD coupe? Hmm....

Buick needs a V6 Turbo? Hmm...

Buick needs something that can be limited production without a burden to their overall R&D costs?

Why not give the Camaro LT a Buick face, portholes, and interior then put a turbo on the 3.6L.

Ahhhhh! NO!

Chevy will have a Tubo V6 Camaro too soon as it is. Besides I would rather see something more stylish for Buick.

The Camaro with the TA nose that someone made is alreafy getting panned.

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IDK, but it seems to me Fritz is saying that the hardware will be there, but the badging won't be GNX.

I think you may be right. We may get the OPC package as it is or at least some of it without the GNX name.

I have noticed Fritz's GM speak goes to the point the No does not mean No if he is not ready to answer it. You know the way things should be if you are running a competitive company. Years ago we did not know much till the cars hit the dealers and GM did not show you everything for 5 years as they did on the Camaro. No need to buy time now.

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Well, hopefully we'll get it and it just won't have the name (which is better than not getting it at all).

It'll prob come and be named Super (which I'm still not a fan of).

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Not everyone on this earth wants a sedan, either. A performance Regal needs a coupe bodystyle.

If they brought a Regal coupe here, I would keep my Jeep and buy that in a heart beart rather than just trading it on another Jeep.

Make sure it has a shift-it-yourself option too.

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Don't put the GNX name on the new top-dog Regal. Make it similar in spirit but not in name.

The GNX was a cool and neat car but it still was just a Regal.

Watch your mouth young man! :angry:

j/k

Seriously, though, there were worse cars in the '80s than the Regal and especially the Regal's turbo cousins. Let's walk down memory lane, shall we?

82-88_Buick_Century_sedan.jpg

Chevrolet-Celebrity-coupe.jpg

escort.jpg

reliant.jpg

:P

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Assigning heralded, 'old' names to new vehicles can work. For example:

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As cool a car the 'new' Charger is, do you think it would've attracted as much attention if it used a different nameplate? I have a feeling it wouldn't have. Plus, there were 'purists' ragging about how the new one has four doors, but that didn't seem to harm sales, either.

In my opinion, this:

opel-insignia-opc-sports-tourer-1.jpg

equals this,

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Leveraging names like GNX can only help market a high-performance Regal, and get butts in seats at the Buick dealership. GNX is a recognized moniker, and screams performance. If GM plays their cards right with it, they'll be rewarded with getting traction with the under-40 crowd, and younger enthusiasts.

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Can the OPC pull a wheelstand? I think not *snap*.
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Why not T-type?

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Why not T-type?

You know, I think we have a winner here.

The T-Type moniker wasn't just applied to rwd Regals. It was on fwd LeSabres and Centuries too. It was the marquee-wide performance badge, like SS is to Chevy.

I say go for it.

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What would Buickman do?

Add a 300in-long BOF Buick sedan powered by a 600 cu-in V8 with 6 four-barrel carburators. Of course the car would come with a vinyl top, fake wire wheels and whitewall tires. Put $6000 on the hood, and yell: RETURN TO GREATNESS!!! :smilewide:

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Add a 300in-long BOF Buick sedan powered by a 600 cu-in V8 with 6 four-barrel carburators. Of course the car would come with a vinyl top, fake wire wheels and whitewall tires. Put $6000 on the hood, and yell: RETURN TO GREATNESS!!! :smilewide:

LOL! Make it a 4dr ht w/ fins, and you've described Sixty-Eight's dream car. Speaking of 68, he's been AWOL from the board for a long time now.

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I think 68 is busy just staying alive these days - multiple jobs and so on.

T-Type is a great idea.

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