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Now back from western PA and our annual Thanksgiving day trip, an update.

1) Still no Camaro. Daily talk of it and now she's to the point of talking about "when" she's going to buy one to my father, my grandparents, etc.

2) She's driven my G8. Shame only around town and I wouldn't let her move the seat properly (well...), but she seemed to like it. Didn't say a word. Only "I want a car with power... :cry: ..."

3) I started jabbing with the idea of "my G8 is a 4 door version and with a lot more room not only than a Camaro but your Malibu..." She likes it, but it's no Camaro. It'd be a fun 4-door she'd drive while still going "Oooh, look, a Camaro!"

4) Now in addition to talking about buying a Camaro, I get daily complaint reports about how low on power/efficiency the Malibu is.

a) Mom: "I want a car with power...I want a car with power...I want a car with power...I want a Camaro..."

b) Dad: "This thing is awful, it won't kickdown, it's revving its life out to just cruise, and the mileage is horrible. 22mpg barely?!? You never should have bought a 4-cyl in a car like this."

c) Me: "Well, you have to be used to it...the 6-spd cars are much better...I had a V6 one...this was one of the first ones built, 4-spd and all...it's not bad...it's a great car, slow, but great..."

Today everyone got back to DE and while washing the PA filth off the Malibu, mother dearest again commented "I want my Camaro" like she was washing a temporary rental car. Then told me "he called it a piece of $h! on the highway today...", and "I'll just keep driving it as is" like it was a chore. Never thought I'd hear that about such a nice car, even low on power. I think the Malibu needs a cookie and a belly rub :lovey:

Oh boy. Mixed Malibu feelings. I'm still impressed by the look and feel of the car both in touchy-feely and on the road after 2 hard years and 24k miles, and in a lot of ways over my G8, but at the same time that Camaro bug has bit and the poison keeps dripping in.

The other thing...room/practicality. The Malibu as is is a nice combo for her DD uses, a little tight on trips but not terrible, and dandy if out with friends, etc. Really what fits the "uses" is something like an Equinox size, price, and otherwise, but she won't consider anything beyond a Camaro for the obvious reasons. A G8 is still a wildcard, but either would be a whole new world of car for her and that's why she wants it. As much as I want this to happen, honestly it has me a bit nervous...

Happy Late Thanksgiving...duh duh duh... :booyah:

To brighten this story up a little more, the intermission, an Imperial Blue 1LT Camaro I snapped at dealer today with my brother, nearing home.

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Sounds like it is just a matter of time to me...

You know what else is, like before? The 1968 Dodge Coronet "prized possession/heap" sitting behind her parking spot at the house, that's my father's latest acquisition. The last time an old bomb project appeared, a certain someone made a base minivan turn into a loaded Chrysler 300M in a matter of weeks and therein went that story.

But sheesh, now getting daily complaints in regards to "I want power!" or "this thing sucks"? Never expected that. Makes me think, back at the time, had I instead insisted on a 2LT V6 Malibu as I had for a few months...hmm.

And it continues. My latest "idea" is a push that the Malibu value is only going to drop further with another calendar year change, so get a roll on it already. Oh, the world of wanting and buying new cars...

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I saw a Camaro exactly like that at a dealership on Rt 15 on my way back from my brother's cabin yesterday... I believe there were at least two other Camaros in line with it, but that color combo stuck in my mind's eye.

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Quick update, again.

All seemed quiet today until I was told "take a day off next week, I want to go Camaro shopping ASAP". Okay then. Got it. Already have a route planned, of sorts. One in DE, then into PA (as of now, Oxford, Warminster, and wherever else) to see how things go. Talked to the dealer in Oxford tonight finally on the phone after several emails and liked the trade # he "seemed to remember" but we'll see on that. So far, better #'s on everything via email than an in person local deal.

Duh duh duh. G8 gets a Corsa on Friday, and I'll be up in PA. Camaro shopping Monday or Tuesday with the dog slow Malibu (hah!), puttering up once again? We'll see.

She's in the mode of "as long as..." when it comes to options, depending on me. I brought up a Cyber Gray/Black 2LT RS I've been emailing about and that was good until "what about stripes? Does it have stripes? I want stripes." Mentioned another Silver/Black/Black stripes one and that got a smile "Yes!" "Big wheels?" I could probably bring up yellow and get a look...and she did like the white/orange one...but gray or silver again it seems. And dark interior only, the all too light Titanium Malibu interior is nice but it's hard to keep it that way.

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I'm surprised to see you don't have a preferred Chevy dealer in NJ!!

Glad to see she's not letting practicality rule her purchasing decision. I hope it all works out and she gets what she wants. I miss new car shopping... :lol:

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I'm surprised to see you don't have a preferred Chevy dealer in NJ!!

Glad to see she's not letting practicality rule her purchasing decision. I hope it all works out and she gets what she wants. I miss new car shopping... :lol:

I know! I still keep thinking...say you want a G8...say you want a G8...I have the BEST people/dealer/etc. ever that could have you the right one in a snap and with 0%...and still even without a nasty front plate bracket rivet job :AH-HA:

Unfortunately, I don't have a preferred Jersey Chevy dealer yet and the one recommended by my Pontiac guy up there is actually in northern Delaware. Still, extended the search for in stock cars, and at least 2 possibilities are in Jersey. Well, were, until I contacted one dealer and got a "our sale price on this unit is...$3k over sticker" (Pellegrino). Yeah, no. The other is just sticker and seems okay enough (Elkins).

Heading north 3+ hours again tomorrow--my G8 is racking the miles up big time--for my exhaust install and hope to stop by at least one of the dealers on the way. Gotta love a PA Chevy dealer that has at least 10 Camaro's in stock at any given time...so much different than most of Delaware's "we had...one..." Then next week the official shopping trip.

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Came out from the Columbus Blue Jackets hocky game (Toronto spanked us 6-3) and in consolation for watching the Blue Jackets bomb, a beautiful SS Camaro in black was parked next to us in the parking garage.

Thought of you, Derek, and your mother and your quest for a Camaro. I need to show that car to my wife...hmmm...

Chris

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Does your Jersey dealer still have G8s available? I'm starting to see that inventory dwindle out around where I live. What's your dealers name?

Nope, none, they sold their last (2) fully optioned V6 models in the past month or so. It's Pointe in Penns Grove. That said, just as the local DE GM dealer did for someone recently, it's still possible to swap in a G8, no sweat. I was going to suggest a silver GT...package wise it would work for her, but then again it would be another sedan, it would be a big V8 when she really only wants to step up to a powerful V6, it has some odd switchgear & lacks interior details she's become used to in the Malibu, etc. Hits on some, doesn't hit on others, where the Camaro does more so.

I'd still like to know her real reaction to the G8, having only been in it twice and driven once for 2 miles to town and back, but that's it. It's the Camaro "Camaro" that does it, which I 110% get, but you know...

After getting my Corsa installed today, heehee :booyah:

Trying to decide if I'm going to take her north for shopping Monday or Tuesday. Hmm. Got a call today--someone must not have been busy--telling me she had been on NADA, KBB, and such through their bank system looking up the value of her Malibu. At least she seems realistic about that now, and that the # the local dealer gave her wasn't good at all. Hmm.

The more I think about this the more I want the even cooler mom with a new striped Camaro...but at the same time...yikes...Avalanche->Suburban->Malibu->Camaro...the days of even a more than 2 person trip to the store, church, etc. is a different proposition. As are roadtrips. But who cares about that, really :AH-HA:

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This is too funny. I hope your mom gets her Camaro make sure its an RS though!

Honestly, I've thought about that a few times...RS. It's a given, if you've ever seen the full gamut of Camaros, but still worth considering either way.

Mainly because a standard 2LT as she wants has really nice looking 19" 5-spokes and all season Pirelli's vs. the 20" summer Pirelli's on RS wheels. For me, not a concern. For her, I have to think about a lot of scenarios because this is SUCH a huge change in type of car for her...and things like "what do you mean? Huh?" when I tried to describe once that my G8 had "summer tires". Her only concern, as of yesterday was "I want the BIG wheels." And then I got a call "why doesn't this one have a spoiler?" when she was looking at a non-RS LT on Chevy.com build site.

At least we're down to Silver with black stripes or Cyber Gray with silver stripes...maybe white...but, as of yesterday, "I just don't want a cheap plain white car...eh" after liking the white & orange one so much she drove. It's hard to please, because I have to really dig as to what she wants, she'll do the "I don't care" then 6 months later it will be "why did you tell me to get THIS one?" :confused0071:

Tomorrow or Tuesday is shopping day...still not sure...I was more concerned today with taking my Corsa'd G8 out for a short grocery store spin & doing work for work, heh :AH-HA:

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So it sounds like it will be an RS because she wants the big wheels and spoiler. In my view if you get a V6 Camaro and you get a 1LT or 2LT your out of you mind not to get he HID's, 20's, cool badging and spoiler! The only way I would get a non-RS is a stripper with the cool 18inch black wheels. (Would she consider a 1LS, or wouldn't she go for the vintage inspired rally style wheels?) As for the SS, the RS package isn't such a big deal. A 1LT Camaro RS with connectivity package is a nice mid-level car sports coupe for about 26K or 27K. Can she drive stick, if she can a manual trans would take 1K off and she could get the extra goodies.

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All true. The requirements are basically it has to be a V6/auto (okay, really, she'd do a SS too...but, uh, yeah...), has to have full leather (NO cloth, period, end of story), and from there since her Suburban & Malibu, she has pretty much assumed if it's a GM and cost more than $20k "naturally" it should have steering wheel audio controls, remote start, dimming mirrors, auto lights, etc. So, basically, 2LT only. If the leather wasn't an issue, a 1LT with the C&C package could work, but in the end loading up one of those isn't that far off a 2LT with just the RS or otherwise.

Colors, well, Silver Ice, Cyber Gray, or, maybe, if worse comes to worse (and really, with as much $$ as she's looking to spend and "keep it longer than any other car so far", settling isn't a good proposition), Summit White, and it has to have the Black interior--I've also been mandated NO more light colored interiors, after her current Titanium Malibu. Like the light, it looks great, good for dust, etc. but with the dogs, etc. as much as it doesn't show dust, it shows everything else.

Found some Silver ones, a few actually, there was a Cyber Gray one I was dealing on but it was sold I think, another Cyber Gray one that has a sunroof instead of RS (she could go either way on sunroof, but told me no for price & otherwise), and of course several white ones, yellow ones, etc. I started to wonder if I could get her interested in a yellow Transformer edition, but heh :rolleyes:

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That would be sweet-my father ordered a couple of cars from Ford, and the idea of ordering a car has always appealed to me!

Chris

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With all of this deliberation, she should just order one.

You know, it would be her Camaro especially built for her by Chevrolet. :smilewide:

She knows what she wants in basics, and like with the Malibu (which she actually DID order, only to have her current one come available via dealer trade 2 days later), if there's one that meets her specs give or take 1 thing and sitting on a lot ready to go, that's what she'd rather do. Why wait when you don't have to, even if it is a little more effort to search, it's much quicker.

Looks right and has all the right buttons, she's gold. Otherwise, she can't tell you which options are which, etc. In this case, it'd help if she could really see & touch more than just the 1 per month locally, and compare a couple back to back, I can lead the way based on what she says.

Oh, I remember the day she ordered a Malibu...I got a call saying she did, then went to the dealer later to check on what she said yes too, thankfully not submitted. She gave the sales lady basics "the silver 2lt, uh, 4-cyl, the light interior, and a sunroof is what she told me" and said order it, no numbers, no nothing. I re-did the order, then it didn't matter anyway in the end. Just has to look right with the right gadgets for the right number & she's good.

As long as I don't suggest a 4-cyl, ever, ever again :AH-HA: Jeez, I swear...and now today she doesn't like the "dull, crappy" wheels on her 2LT Malibu, the ones I and many think are the best wheel design they offered. Of course, hah.

But, as always...we'll see...

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She knows what she wants in basics, and like with the Malibu (which she actually DID order, only to have her current one come available via dealer trade 2 days later), if there's one that meets her specs give or take 1 thing and sitting on a lot ready to go, that's what she'd rather do. Why wait when you don't have to, even if it is a little more effort to search, it's much quicker.

True.

So, why not go ahead and order a Camaro ... and then keep seeing if any become available that meets most (if not all) of her criteria?

Either way ... sure has been interesting to watch this unfold. Looking forward to the "Camaro ordered" or "Camaro purchased" report ;).

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Sitting at the dealer in Oxford, PA right now...she just bought one!

Silver Ice & Black 2LT, RS package, Polished wheels...literally just rolled off the truck this morning;-)

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Nice pick! It looks like a Chrysler Dealership though LOL!

One building is Chevy-Buick, the other is Chrysler stuff. There's a mixture of Camaro's & Challenger's...she wouldn't even go within 10ft a Challenger;-)

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How Ironic is it that after all of us red blooded males lusted after this thing for years...your mother is the first one to put one in the C and G fleet?

Congrats...awesome car!

Chris

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How Ironic is it that after all of us red blooded males lusted after this thing for years...your mother is the first one to put one in the C and G fleet?

Congrats...awesome car!

Chris

Hah!

Sitting waiting for the car, she just made me & the sales guy cringe..."Now you have the hottest mom in town, hah!"

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