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S350 to be the only S-Class diesel in the States

by Keiichi (RSS feed) May 30th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

The race for efficiency has every auto maker caught by the neck, and Mercedes-Benz is no exception. In its bid to keep up with the eco revolution, Daimler’s breadwinner has just announced plans for bringing into the US the European S350. It’ll pack a 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 diesel that’s capable of 241 hp and 429 lb-ft of torque, a bit raunchier than its 235 hp and 398 ft-lb European version. It’ll be the only diesel S-Class to be sold in the US, so hopefully it’ll gain some unique appeal amidst its gasoline-powered sisters.

Wearing a BlueTec badge, the US version of the S350 will feature AdBlue urea injection technology to cleanse its exhaust system. Power goes through the 4MATIC all-wheel drive system, and should give you a little bit better mileage, anywhere from 37 miles per gallon as in the European version. EPA will probably score it around 20 mpg on the highway. Even though those numbers may mean little to you, they’re still a stark difference from the rest of the S-Class lineage. Those would include the S550, the S600 and the S400 Hybrid, which fetches around 19 mpg in the city and 26 mpg out on the freeway.

Sounds pretty good, doesn’t it? What else can you expect from a Mercedes-Benz diesel? You get plenty of torque despite the ‘limited’ horsepower compared to the rest of the gas-powered S-Class. And hey, remember it’s a diesel.

LINK:

http://www.benzinsider.com/2010/05/s350-to-be-the-only-s-class-diesel-in-the-states/

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Still think Cadillac couldn't get away with a 6-cylinder hybrid flagship? This and the 6 cylinder hybrid are going to be the 2 biggest sellers for the S-class line.

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The difference is Cadillac is only offering a V6, the S-class offers a 500 hp V12 and a 600 hp V12, and coming this fall a 435 hp V8 (with 500 lb-ft)

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I like this move because in 5 years everyone else will copy it, and there will be more diesel options here. The S350 and S400 hybrid also fit very well with the chauffer driven proportion of it's buyers. For the S-classes in New York, Chicago, or L.A. that sit in city traffic all day and don't go above 40 mph ever, the fuel efficient engines make great sense. I like the diesel more than the hybrid, diesel will get better mileage I suspect, plus you get the 429 lb-ft of torque.

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Still think Cadillac couldn't get away with a 6-cylinder hybrid flagship? This and the 6 cylinder hybrid are going to be the 2 biggest sellers for the S-class line.

Cadillac has no flagship, and sadly, probably never will. Let's see a Cadillac sedan priced at $85-120,000 sell in some sort of noticeable volume. It won't happen with anything they have in their pipeline or have the capability of producing in the next 5-10 years.

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We're going to see the V-12 be discontinued soon enough- no one buys it and it's a drag on M-B's CAFE :

>>"German print reports that European emissions standards are forcing Benz to abandon its 12 cylinder engine in favor of focusing on more efficient twin-turbo V8s.

Both sedans (S600 & S63) lock in at a dead heat from 0-60; the difference say those who’ve driven both is that the AMG V8... provides a far more satisfying experience in getting there."<<

Edited by balthazar

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We're going to see the V-12 be discontinued soon enough- no one buys it and it's a drag on M-B's CAFE :

>>"German print reports that European emissions standards are forcing Benz to abandon its 12 cylinder engine in favor of focusing on more efficient twin-turbo V8s.

Both sedans (S600 & S63) lock in at a dead heat from 0-60; the difference say those who’ve driven both is that the AMG V8... provides a far more satisfying experience in getting there."<<

But the S63 AMG can't keep up with the S65 AMG. The S65 has 738 lb-ft and that is only because they hold the engine back. I think they'll keep the V12, BMW has a V12, Audi and Bentley have the W12, Mercedes won't let the S-class fall behind in power. If CAFE has exemptions for car makers selling under 400,000 units, it won't matter. EU could be a bit more complicated, but Dubai does not have CAFE, Mercedes can sell $200,000, 600 hp, 12 mpg cars all day long there. And remember Maybach is going away, and the S-class is supposed to move up a little to compensate, so they'll need that V12.

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But the S63 AMG can't keep up with the S65 AMG. The S65 has 738 lb-ft and that is only because they hold the engine back. I think they'll keep the V12, BMW has a V12, Audi and Bentley have the W12, Mercedes won't let the S-class fall behind in power. If CAFE has exemptions for car makers selling under 400,000 units, it won't matter. EU could be a bit more complicated, but Dubai does not have CAFE, Mercedes can sell $200,000, 600 hp, 12 mpg cars all day long there. And remember Maybach is going away, and the S-class is supposed to move up a little to compensate, so they'll need that V12.

You are very optimistic about Mercedes.

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But the S63 AMG can't keep up with the S65 AMG. The S65 has 738 lb-ft and that is only because they hold the engine back. I think they'll keep the V12, BMW has a V12, Audi and Bentley have the W12, Mercedes won't let the S-class fall behind in power. If CAFE has exemptions for car makers selling under 400,000 units, it won't matter. EU could be a bit more complicated, but Dubai does not have CAFE, Mercedes can sell $200,000, 600 hp, 12 mpg cars all day long there. And remember Maybach is going away, and the S-class is supposed to move up a little to compensate, so they'll need that V12.

I'm sure they'll sell all 20 AMG S65s in Dubai... and it won't matter a hill of beans in the U.S.

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>>"...BMW has a V12, Audi and Bentley have the W12, Mercedes won't let the S-class fall behind in power."<<

M-B doesn't exist in a bubble; all those tiny niche engine options from the other makers are under the same pressure/reality.

>>"If CAFE has exemptions for car makers selling under 400,000 units, it won't matter."<<

How's mercedes under 400K- esp with their european addiction to fleet sales ??

I would think with the new bunch of FWD 4-bangers coming, M-B could keep the fat s-class 12 going for it's few dozen sales/yr CAFE-wise, but increasingly it's being looked at as a dinosaur and they can get more than enough performance out of a TT V-8. It's not like any of these sales are based primarily on HP/TRQ, nor are these cars in the same segment ever raced against each other (or anything else). Having the most HP is irrelevant beyond message boards & auto rag lunch tables.

Edited by balthazar

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