Our first Glimpse of a Zeta -based car

[Camino LS6]

Information to be released tomorrow.

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article....vf=2&bg=32&pp=0

[Sixty8panther]

Edge of my seat....

[Dragon]

so it'll be released late this afternoon/early eveing for us North american's? WOOT

[91z4me]

Damn, I am not going to get any sleep tonight. :AH-HA_wink:

[Newbiewar]

didnt we already get to see this thing a while back... and to me it looked kinda bloated, more so then the Goat we got now for the GTO...

[99camaroSS]

exciting stuff, what is the time difference from australia to central time?

[Chazman]

exciting stuff, what is the time difference from australia to central time?

They are 17 hours ahead. So it's 6:18 AM, tomorrow morning, in Australia.

[bdubsee]

exciting stuff, what is the time difference from australia to central time?

Right now it is 2:21 a.m. in Sydney Oz (according to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=240 ) It's 12:21 p.m. EDT hear in Orlando.

Noon in Sydney, Australia would be in about 10 hours...

EDIT: Damn, chazman beat me. But I did include the link so I still get one point.

Edited April 6, 2006 by bdubsee

[bdubsee]

They are 17 hours ahead. So it's 6:18 AM, tomorrow morning, in Australia.

Doesn't Australia have multiple time zones? If my calculations are right for Sidney, we could looking at VE tonight. Sydney is GMT+10 and East USA is GMT-4 so this part of Oz is 14 hours ahead of us. Midday Australia = 12 GMT+10 = 10 p.m. EDT.

Edited April 6, 2006 by bdubsee

[Chazman]

Doesn't Australia have multiple time zones? If my calculations are right for Sidney, we could looking at VE tonight.  Sydney is GMT+10 and East USA is GMT-4 so this part of Oz is 14 hours ahead of us.  Midday Australia = 12 GMT+10 = 10 p.m. EDT.

Yeah, I don't know. I remember getting some email from Holden and calculating they were 17 hours ahead.

[jbartley]

oh WOW, this is exciting!

[nzr]

So will there be pictures or just jargon?

[NOS2006]

Ooh, it's almost a Christmas in April.

Edited April 6, 2006 by NOS2006

[Newbiewar]

Ooh, it's almost a Christmas in April.

well we also had it in january... the more the Merrier?

[NOS2006]

well we also had it in january...    the more the Merrier?

Hell yeah, sir!

[nzr]

So will there be pictures or just jargon?

.

[frogger]

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article....vf=2&bg=32&pp=0

[rueben44]

Nice car but it does not look new.

[illustcat]

Nice car but it does not look new.

UMM. those are only computer generated images...which means these are chops/rendering of what they think it will look like.

[Croc]

UMM. those are only computer generated images...which means these are chops/rendering of what they think it will look like.

Exactly.

[Dragon]

the lower front fascia screams srt-4 on the CG pics

[carman21]

Looks better but, there is a little bit of Acura Vigor in the front grill.

[mjdecker]

Here's to hoping for a good deal of inspiration is carried over from the Torana concept.

[toesuf94]

Other than the Origami edging - they look hot to me...I just hope they arrive here in all forms...Ute, Four Door, Wagon, and rwd/AWD...oh to have choices at the GM dealerships again!

[Robert Hall]

Interesting..I wonder if the new Commodore will be badged as a Chevy Lumina in the Middle East like the current model...

[mustang84]

Ehh...I don't really like it that much. It looks like it has an Audi A6/Ford Five Hundred greenhouse with an '07 Sentra beltline and a Volkswagen Phaeton/Jetta front end. Hopefully the real deal looks better.

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[Robert Hall]

It's just a concept rendering, so I'm not sure how closely it matches the production model, but it looks pretty generic... the front air dam and rear wing look tacked on and kind of '80s/90s looking. Not that interesting styling-wise..

[Dragon]

any news/pics?

[I hope GMRULES again]

Nothing radical, not what I was expecting.

[Newbiewar]

didnt we already get to see this thing a while back... and to me it looked kinda bloated, more so then the Goat we got now for the GTO...

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article....vf=2&bg=32&pp=0

yep i remember seeing that thing, with some camo over it... not the best imo

[sciguy_0504]

Ahhhh...let's just hope the real deal is better.

[99camaroSS]

YAWN!!!!! this better not be what we have to look forward to or GM is F***ed

[jrockb4]

What platform is the Statesman on? There is an article in the same paper that shows the new Statesman and how they are going to differentiate it and the Commodore. Is the Statesman a Sigma?

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=11335

[gm_rocks]

Looks like an Acura TSX.. at first i thought it was one with some sort of "different" styling.

Guess it looks alright I guess.. but it just looks like an Acura too much.

Edited April 7, 2006 by gm_rocks

[91z4me]

Is the Statesman a Sigma?

No it is a LWB VE.

[hyperv6]

Did anyone notice some of the lines on the side and wheel wells look like the drawing MT has last summer.

I don't teally care what the holden looks like since it is not sold here. I will wait till the new NA designs are shown before I complain.

Keep in mind the Suburban and H2 may share the same base but differ greatly.

Here is the MT drawing, hard to say what all has changed on the GTO since but the wheel wells look similar

[Casket Demon]

Why is this still on the front page?. Clearly there is no picture of the real thing yet so why bother with this mess.

[Camino LS6]

Why is this still on the front page?. Clearly there is no picture of the real thing yet so why bother with this mess.

Because it is the most recent information available.

[Casket Demon]

Because it is the most recent information available.

But the problem is this is only renderings of what its supposed to look like and pretty poor ones at that.

[Robert Hall]

What platform is the Statesman on?  There is an article in the same paper that shows the new Statesman and how they are going to differentiate it and the Commodore.  Is the Statesman a Sigma?

http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=11335

From that article, it sounds like it's just a LWB version of the VE Commodore...different trim and sheetmetal, same dirty bits.

[Camino LS6]

From that article, it sounds like it's just a LWB version of the VE Commodore...different trim and sheetmetal, same dirty bits.

Yup, that's what the Statesman has always been, but the designation is WM instead of VE. Still a Zeta.

[regfootball]

front looks like a jap-a-nees car, the greenhouse is stretched malibu and the far rear looks like the butt end of the caliber.

[ZL-1]

So... when will the 1st official shots be released? Anyone knows?

[Camino LS6]

Commodore goes on sale this summer, so I'd say very soon.

[Sixty8panther]

I'm liking the angular styling and clean lines. I hate to say it but

there's a bit of 1999 - 2002 Honda Accord Coupe Styling there.

RWD and nice selection of V6 and V8 engines will make these

cars winners in thier respective markets. Esp. if there's an AWD

option acros the board. Hope the Elcamino & Impala Estate are

a reality, as well as a few RWD products for Pontiac & Buick.

[Camino LS6]

I expect great things.