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Mercedes-Benz Future Engine Line Up To Include V8s, 4, and I6s?

William Maley - Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

October 28, 2011

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Mercedes-Benz has just signed off on their new engine line to begin showing up in 2015 and major changes are coming. A new set of three and four cylinder engines from both Mercedes and Nissan/Renault will find their way into the three pointed star. Also, big-bore V8s will be replaced by smaller V8s equipped with turbochargers.

The biggest change is with their V6 lineup. According to Car magazine, a source tells them that Mercedes-Benz will be dropping their V6 engines for Inline-6s. The source also says the Inline-6 will be used for their larger vehicles and come in either a single or dual turbo setup.

Source: Car Magazine

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I like the Inline-6 idea. That give the C-class and E-class a better chance against the 3-series and 5-series and a straight six in the M-class SUV will be good. And Mercedes used to make inline sixes before, they should be able to make a good one, and a straight six has the refinement of a V8, perhaps even more so.

Now what about the V12? I can't imagine an S-class (or Maybach) without a V12 option.

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The e-class is already outselling the 5-series I believe.

inline engines are so hoary and antiquated, perception-wise. Bizarre move.

it's more "Exclusive" because it has lower sales

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Inline 6s are longer which requires a longer nose which a good thing for proper RWD proportions. Inline 6s tend to be smoother and they are more uncommon than pedestrian V6s.

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The e-class is already outselling the 5-series I believe.

inline engines are so hoary and antiquated, perception-wise. Bizarre move.

it's more "Exclusive" because it has lower sales

Oooooooh, I get it, when low sales are good, they're 'exclusive', when they're not, they 'don't compete'. Got it! :fryingpan:

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I'll bet if the ATS includes a four cylinder option, people will call it a Cimarron.

But when a Mercedes C debuts (again) with a four, it will be a champion of fuel efficiency and will show the world that Europe leads the world in innovation/fuel economy/whateverthef@#ktheargumentofthedayis.

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GM is already able to produce a 4-cylinder turbo that has a better power curve than a naturally aspirated FWD Northstar. If they can tame some of the NHV demons down a bit, they should be in good shape.

Inline 6s are longer which requires a longer nose which a good thing for proper RWD proportions.

Cubi... sometimes you make me :facepalm:

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GM is already able to produce a 4-cylinder turbo that has a better power curve than a naturally aspirated FWD Northstar. If they can tame some of the NHV demons down a bit, they should be in good shape.

Inline 6s are longer which requires a longer nose which a good thing for proper RWD proportions.

Cubi... sometimes you make me :facepalm:

I try, I try... :)

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Mercedes used to make inline sixes before....

"Long time ago- no one remembers that." :P

Mid 90s is when they switched to pedestrian V6s, IIRC.

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Straight sixes are still great engines. I look forward to a modern take on it. Perhaps an inline six turbo diesel is in the works as well.

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Mercedes used to make inline sixes before....

"Long time ago- no one remembers that." :P

Mid 90s is when they switched to pedestrian V6s, IIRC.

That's like 6 car leases ago dude! They aren't going to remember that.

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True.

Mercedes used to make inline sixes before....

"Long time ago- no one remembers that." :P

Mid 90s is when they switched to pedestrian V6s, IIRC.

That's like 6 car leases ago dude! They aren't going to remember that.

True... I just drove one this morning to Starbucks...the Merc 3.0 straight 6 is pretty nice ('91 300CE).

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"RWD proportions" is the new "hardtop" on C&G. :banghead:

So? RWD proportions are better looking than common, generic FWD...

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"RWD proportions" is the new "hardtop" on C&G. :banghead:

So? RWD proportions are better looking than common, generic FWD...

Check out these long hood RWD proportions....

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"RWD proportions" is the new "hardtop" on C&G. :banghead:

The inline six will provide Mercedes with a new level of BMW-ness, the E350 coupe will have long hood and proper RWD proportions AND no B-pillar for a true hardtop look. This is the only combination possible to build a car better than the Hyundai Sonata.

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"RWD proportions" is the new "hardtop" on C&G. :banghead:

The inline six will provide Mercedes with a new level of BMW-ness, the E350 coupe will have long hood and proper RWD proportions AND no B-pillar for a true hardtop look. This is the only combination possible to build a car better than the Hyundai Sonata.

long hood, RWD, hardtop, with straight 6 and V8 versions...that's about as pure good as it gets...

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"RWD proportions" is the new "hardtop" on C&G. :banghead:

So? RWD proportions are better looking than common, generic FWD...

Check out these long hood RWD proportions....

84b.jpg

91chrimper.jpg

The E-bodies were unusal as they did look like RWD cars, they had no outward styling cues that would indicate FWD. Alas, the Chrysler gives away it's lame transverse engine/ FWD nature with the short wheel to door distance.

Short hood, long deck, hardtop, RWD, V8 & American one-ups the above.

Short hood and long deck..unpleasant except on a midengined car, IMO. Alas, I doubt if anything like this will happen in the future from an American automaker..

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      4Matic has been updated from being hydraulically activated to electro-mechanically activated.  In normal mode, the system splits torque 80:20 front:rear.  Sport mode changes that ratio to 70:30, while off-road mode moves it to 50:50. Being electro-mechanically operated allows the 4Matic system to be more efficient by not having to drive hydraulic pumps. 
      The GLA 250 is available with a host of driver assistance packages. They include:
      Active Distance Assist DISTRONIC with the functions: braking for stationary vehicles, extended automatic restarting in traffic jams in conjunction with Active Parking Assist and navigation, activation of "Gliding" in the ECO drive mode, Active Steering Assist with the functions: Active Emergency Braking Assist – with automatic unlocking and placement of an SOS call to the Mercedes-Benz emergency call center after the vehicle has come to a stop (depending on country) Active Lane Change Assist in conjunction with navigation, Emergency lane function: in freeway traffic jams at speeds below approx. 37 mph. Active Speed Limit Assist with reaction to changes in speed limits in conjunction with Traffic Sign Assist, Route-based speed adjustment when approaching bends, roundabouts, toll stations, T-junctions and before leaving highways – reduction of vehicle speed when encountering the end of a traffic jam, in conjunction with navigation, Evasive Steering Assist, Active Lane Keeping Assist, Active Blind Spot Assist, Active Brake Assist with cross-traffic function, PRE-SAFE PLUS: can detect a potential rear impact. If the danger of a collision persists, the system can also firmly apply the brakes of the stationary vehicle, minimizing the risk of whiplash injuries by reducing the forward jolt caused by an impact from the rear. The interior of the GLA is quite similar to the A-Class sedan. Mercedes MBUX is there and can be activated by voice simply by saying "Hey Mercedes". 
      AMG 35
      The GLA AMG 35 gets an AMG tuned suspension, including an optional ride control system that allows the driver to select between three different drive modes.  A high performance braking system with 13.8 inch disks up front and 13.0 inch disks in the rear is included. There is a speed-sensitive variable ratio steering that changes the amount of assistance offered at different speeds. The AMG also gets a special exhaust system with a gas flap to change the sound dynamics of the car depending on mode, engine speed, and engine load. 
      The exterior of the AMG GLA 35 gets a different front fascia from the regular GLA 250, fitting in with the rest of the AMG lineup. 
      The GLA 250 goes on sale Summer of 2020 with the AMG following after that.
       
       
      New GLA
      Predecessor
      Diff.
      Exterior dimensions
      Length
      in
      173.6
      174.2
      -0.6
      Width
      in
      72.2
      71.0
      +1.2
      Width incl. exterior mirrors
      in
      79.5
      79.6
      -0.1
      Height
      in
      63.4
      59.3
      +4.1
      Wheelbase
      in
      107.4
      106.3
      +1.1
      Track, front
      in
      63.2
      61.4
      +1.8
      Track, rear
      in
      63.2
      61.4
      +1.8
      Interior dimensions*
      Max. front headroom
      in
      40.8
      40.0
      +0.8
      Headroom, rear
      in
      38.1
      38.4
      -0.3
      Legroom, front
      in
      41.1
      41.9
      -0.8
      Legroom, rear
      in
      38.4
      33.9
      +4.5
      Elbow room, front
      in
      57.3
      56.0
      +1.3
      Elbow room, rear
      in
      57.3
      55.5
      +1.8
      Shoulder room, front
      in
      55.9
      54.8
      +1.1
      Shoulder room, rear
      in
      54.8
      53.1
      +1.7
      Load compartment width, max.
      in
      50.1
      46.7
      +3.4
      Load compartment depth, max.
      in
      56.0
      54.9
      +1.1
      Eff. width trunk opening
      in
      41.3
      41.1
      +0.2
      Trunk capacity (VDA)
      cu-ft
      15.4
      14.9
      +0.5
    • By Drew Dowdell
      Mercedes-Benz is trying something new with the debut of the GLA. Rather than holding an event, they are doing an online reveal of the new GLA class. We got a preview of the new GLA in the form of a sketch released from Mercedes.  Ignore the ridiculous sized wheels and you'll get a good view of what it will look like.  
      The new GLA rides on a new platform, the same that underpins the new A-Class, CLA, and GLB. That means, yes, it is a front-wheel drive model, but expect 4matic to be available as well.  The overall size of the car will be reduced very slightly, but the wheelbase has been increased.  This should increase legroom for passengers, but we don't have any of those dimensions yet. The roof will be slightly taller too. Unlike its predecessor, it will not be shared with Infiniti to create another QX30. 
      Front end styling won't be that different from the current A-Class or CLA and expect the interior to be very similar, if not the same, as what you'd get in an A-Class. Powertrains will be the same as well, with an AMG GLA 45 coming.  Rumor has it a hybrid version could also be in the works.

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