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it's not even about getting laid...I mean, while it may sound sappy and pathetic, I mostly just want someone to be there for me and to share my feelings with and likewise. You know, someone to just hold in your arms and be with...It doesn't have to be about sex and making out and whatnot...while that is fine and everything, there is more to it than that...If I was younger I probably would be wanting more of that, but being that I am somewhat older now, I want whatever happens to be right the first time and to be with someone who isn't just a booty call...

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Nick, you're going to make an awesome boyfriend... let me tell you. A girl would be very lucky to find someone who's willing to get to know them, care for them, show them passion and romance. When you find someone, don't be afraid--you have a LOT to offer them. Not to mention that you're like hot now and stuff :P
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Wow, lots of good advice from reg there.  My studio is made up of about 70 people, and probably 30-40% are girls.  Many of them, like you say, are headcases.  You get the ones that are so caught up in architecture that they have no time (or need) for anything else....arch is their life.  I'd say out of all the girls in my studio, about three to five of them are down to earth and normal.  The rest either have their emotional fits or are just too liberal for me (I'm a straight up moderate kinda guy...extremism on either side bothers me, as do feminists...which there are WAAAY too many of in architecture).

Anyway, this one girl just seems right for me.  It's the type of girl I've been looking for for a while.  We've grown up in similar families, have similar interests, and at times there has felt like a connection.  I'll admit I'm somewhat shy (I've been that way since I was a kid), but ever since college I've kinda gotten over that.  Something inside me says just move on and forget about her because it'll probably never happen, but it's hard when you see her every single day in every single class (I even sit next to her in two classes).

I've started branching out and meeting girls around the res hall, but like I said, it's hard to be in studio and be hanging out with them.  There's this one girl down the hall who is from California, brunette and attractive, but it's frustrating because even the short couple weeks we've known each other it's already going to s*** due to me being in studio all the time.  Studio kills social life, period.

The bad thing is, I know everyone in studio almost too well.  Some people you get along with better than others...but sometimes you just want to get away from there because nothing ever changes.  It's so predictable.  Although, sometimes it can be extremely fun (I can remember some hilarious late night antics last year).

The problem with hanging out with Interior Design girls is that we are in two separate buildings.  The Design College stuck the architecture students in an old 1920s gym with no A/C, while ID, Community & Regional Planning, and Art & Design are in the nice 1970s COD building with its five story glass atrium.  We're "supposed" to be getting a new studio sometime in the near future, but I doubt it'll be before I graduate...the University is penny pinching right now due to budget cuts.

So in summary, I'm around arch students nearly 24/7.  We're isolated in our own building and the amount of free time I have is decreasing by the week.  This girl is the only one who has caught my eye that I see often...but her rule about not dating arch guys just kills me.  I think my only solution is to get my work done quickly and efficiently so I can have free time on the weekends to get out and and hang out with some other girls.  But in architecture, it seems like the work is never-ending...

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well, first off, you've got enough proof in your writeup there to verify how offkilter those arch. chicks can be as a stereotype.

On the next, more personal level though, if any woman, any PERSON, erects rules as rigid and closed minded as 'not gonna date anyone in studio' let me simply say that is just a fraction of the iceberg in terms of what sort of chick hangups she has in the skeleton closet. We're looking at someone who overanalyzes things with their head and doesn't gravitate to the heart's feelings. It also shows you a level of selfishness and how much she'll prioritize the need to satisfy self at the expense of leaving an open mind to follow exploring a new love interest.

i.e. this is someone who has put up limits and is knowingly attemtping to curtail the chance of anything good happeing from a love interest standpoint.

We can't pick and choose where our suitors come from and trying to control that seldom works. Attemtping to sacrifice too much personal happiness for scholarly happiness to me suggests someone who can't handle both facets of their life elegantly. I've known of far too many women who cannot handle both work/school and personal lives and usually the brunt of failure gets diverted onto the male at some point.

I might be being overly blunt and simple here, but unless there's a special magic in her that transcends her self imposed limits, then I would at least knock her down the priority list......(of course if she's cuter than all get up and has an awesome rack and ass, well, i could see being drawn to that!)

What this means is bump up the efforts with friends, dormmates, etc. I KNOW its tough, trust me. I worked at a job mostly full time while going through the program (arch.) and I sacrificed a lot in terms of time in studio vs other things. My grades went down some, but not that much. Your social interaction is what fuels your desire and interest in everything else.

Everyday I review in my mind opportunities I missed in school in various things because I spent far too much time on 'projects'. Learn how to crank out the projects in half the time. I worked more form home and had more productive time the last few years. i still was up in studio enough to get in on the life up there too. Thing is, studio is a monoculture of liberal types, green types, art types, engineer types, 'thinkers' and philosophers.......4-6 years of that takes you out of normal mainstream thought of the mainstream and the rest of the college group. you become a sad granola eating nerd like the rest of them!

At times, I lament not having more good times with my studio friends, but all in all, in the end, 80-90% of the time I considered them as coworkers and I would always have chosen to be around my friends more often, if given the choice.

In a complete whole life, you'll remember your friends a lot more than your co-workers.

That's not to discount that you won't find a super hottie in the studio, I'm just saying again, force yourself to branch out more NOW. Don't wait for college to end. It gets busier once you start working and you meet far fewer people. Why not sample the ladies menu now when you are in the ultimate women buffet (COLLEGE)?

Balance your studio and social life, but don't waste your prime years in college by not getting out and seeking friends while they are so accessible. People put up barriers as the years go on. the experiences you will share with your college friends are the most intense and open shared times and will last you forever.

You can sacrifice the A- or B+ grade for B's and B-'s across the board if it means an extra 15-20 hours a week time for you to develop friends and love interests socially in dorms, academic clubs and org's, bar hopping, parties, intrmurals, and road trips. Part time jobs are a great way to meet others too.

In my college they kicked the architects into some old farm quonsets. Now I guess they have them in an old remote building that they were gonna knock over, but somebody gave a bunch of dough to renovate, so now the architects and stuff are like 3 miles from the rest of the campus! How is anyone supposed to get a rounded education being segregated like that?

Again, if a woman has rules NOW, when she is in the free-est environment she will ever be in, how many RULES will she have later in life, for herself and her hubby?

Sample the ladies outside your studio and then report back with your findings. I bet generally you'll have more fun with women outside arch. Psych majors are a trip. those chicks are crazy. Buisness majors are a hoot too.

You'll meet plenty of architecture women once you begin working, if you don't meet other chicks in school anyways.

My advice, to all....weddings....CRASHER or not. I met my wife at a wedding, so did our best friends. Wedding stories, hey that should be a separate topic! Someone ought to start it up! Edited by regfootball
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it's not even about getting laid...I mean, while it may sound sappy and pathetic, I mostly just want someone to be there for me and to share my feelings with and likewise. You know, someone to just hold in your arms and be with...It doesn't have to be about sex and making out and whatnot...while that is fine and everything, there is more to it than that...If I was younger I probably would be wanting more of that, but being that I am somewhat older now, I want whatever happens to be right the first time and to be with someone who isn't just a booty call...

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Nick buddy, it'll come around. Sometimes the girls you like or are hot for you may not be the ones who are outgoing or the 'popular' types we are all told are the ones to be with in high school. once you get out of that crappy high school bullshit for awhile and don't have to be exposed to all that stuff, people become more themselves and I think you'll find that in the near future, somebody who's good for you, you will meet. Its a matter of getting out there and approaching them and talking to them and getting to know them and making them feel special, unique and very good about themselves. In theory, they reciprocate all that right back to you. You may find a very shy girl who blossoms from being your friend and she will turn into this amazing person right before your eyes because you will think of her like no one has thought of her before.

Unfortunately our highschool environments breed an atmosphere that only rewards jocks, cheerleaders, and outgoing pretty people. The rest of us suffer through that time and have to wait to enjoy our social lives when we get a little older.
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My current Girlfriend and I started off this way. We were best friends for 3-4 years before we started going out. I think it happened this way for various reasons but most of all we both had just finished horrible relationships. I would just let things be. If you're good friends then just have fun together and leave the door open for it to become something more. Besides, it's really nice to get to know someone really well before getting into a relationship and if things don't turn out that way then at least you'll have a great friend.
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Nick buddy, it'll come around.  Sometimes the girls you like or are hot for you may not be the ones who are outgoing or the 'popular' types we are all told are the ones to be with in high school.  once you get out of that crappy high school bullshit for awhile and don't have to be exposed to all that stuff, people become more themselves and I think you'll find that in the near future, somebody who's good for you, you will meet.  Its a matter of getting out there and approaching them and talking to them and getting to know them and making them feel special, unique and very good about themselves.  In theory, they reciprocate all that right back to you.  You may find a very shy girl who blossoms from being your friend and she will turn into this amazing person right before your eyes because you will think of her like no one has thought of her before. 

Unfortunately our highschool environments breed an atmosphere that only rewards jocks, cheerleaders, and outgoing pretty people.  The rest of us suffer through that time and have to wait to enjoy our social lives when we get a little older.

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yea, I know what you mean...I've been out of high school for a while now, so far not much has changed, though i just did kinda start college, so we'll see...
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yea, I know what you mean...I've been out of high school for a while now, so far not much has changed, though i just did kinda start college, so we'll see...

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Give it more time... it's still early. Scope out the girls... find one that you think seems nice--play it as friends, maybe flirt a little. But just take it slow, and don't worry about things--you've got a lot going for you. :)
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I might be new to the "community" but how many gay ppl are on this page? because there appears to be more than I thought!

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Just as I was reading your post, I was thinking the same thing because I am gay too :rolleyes:

I also read your previous post about how guys notice the flamy people more and us straighter looking guys get no attention..... that is so true!


btw, I never thought I would find a conversation like this one on C&G! ^_^
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Its funny how someone from another site once ridiculed this one as 'Cheers & Queers,' probably not realizing that its unoffensive because - hey - its not really false. :)

I think it speaks to what kind of community and membership we have that people are willing to share aspects of their lives with fellow C&Gers that they perhaps haven't with their other friends or families.

Doesn't matter here if you're straight, gay, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, young, or old - if you love cars and like GM, you're always welcome here.

:CG_all: Pride moment here!
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Just as I was reading your post, I was thinking the same thing because I am gay too  :rolleyes:

I also read your previous post about how guys notice the flamy people more and us straighter looking guys get no attention..... that is so true!
btw, I never thought I would find a conversation like this one on C&G! ^_^

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Dude, I think that's what makes it so hard on us "masculine" gay guys... it's like, other than wearing a sign, there's no way for anyone to know by looking at us! LOL

There's a guy at work, very cute, want to know if he's gay. There's no wedding band on his finger, but that just means he's not married! LOL
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I must say, I give you guys a lot of respect...I mean, if you are straight, it is a lot easier to scope out a partner, but if you're gay and start hitting on a guy, I can't imagine it is always obvious how gay the guy is, so you could be hitting on a straight guy, who in turn, may get weirded out by it or something...I don't know...it just seems like it could be a sticky situation...
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Yes, it could be a sticky situation, if things turn out well. http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/AH-HA_wink.gif

I've been seeing a very nice person for a while now, and you'd never know he's gay. He's a regular guy except he loves The Golden Girls. Can't wait to see him again, hopefully tonight, but more likely tomorrow night, he works second shift... I'm really hoping this works out for us!
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Dude, I think that's what makes it so hard on us "masculine" gay guys... it's like, other than wearing a sign, there's no way for anyone to know by looking at us! LOL

There's a guy at work, very cute, want to know if he's gay.  There's no wedding band on his finger, but that just means he's not married! LOL

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It's certainly not easy, I guess that is also why girls hit on me so much too. Being shy doesn't help either, I am not going to hit on a guy that I am not sure is gay because of a few reasons: 1. Some guys take it as a insult, they feel that that appear gay. 2. Straight guys feel uncomfortable around you because they figure that you will hit on them next.. it just really sucks!
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yeah well i think that the "flamers" or flambouyantly gay men have created an inaccurate stigma is all i also have a lot of respect for you gay guys who are more normal than flambouyant i sincerely hope that in the future this thread will discourage the use of the word gay or fag in a negative connotation. ive seen it before and though i am straighter than a laser level, i found the referrence offensive
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Yes, it could be a sticky situation, if things turn out well.      http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/AH-HA_wink.gif

I've been seeing a very nice person for a while now, and you'd never know he's gay.  He's a regular guy except he loves The Golden Girls.  Can't wait to see him again, hopefully tonight, but more likely tomorrow night, he works second shift... I'm really hoping this works out for us!

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Yay ocn! I want details--send me a message!! :)

Well, it's rough, there are two guys at work that I find very attractive, but they're masculine, and other than the fact that they don't talk about girlfriends or wear wedding bands, I haven't a clue. Maybe we should get a rainbow smilie for the site LOL
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I'm a regular guy, and I loved/love that show too. Actually, I once read that males in their mid 20s, gay and straight, make up a large demographic in the fan base that show has. :blink: Anyway, now that I've pointed out that useless bit of information, let's get back to the topic here...

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One of my favorite episodes of the Golden Girls is when the girls find Blanche's old diary... and they read her initials on it... B.E.D. - and they say, "Why does it say BED on your diary?" And she replies, "Those are my initials.. Blanche Elizabeth Devarou."

I still remember howling with the rest of the audience--I laughed so hard at that one... their reactions to the slut's initials actually spelling out bed LOL :lol:
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Yes, it could be a sticky situation, if things turn out well.      http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/AH-HA_wink.gif

I've been seeing a very nice person for a while now, and you'd never know he's gay.  He's a regular guy except he loves The Golden Girls.  Can't wait to see him again, hopefully tonight, but more likely tomorrow night, he works second shift... I'm really hoping this works out for us!

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was that Golden Girls or GOLDEN SHOWER girls?

oops. flashbacks to my porn producer days!!!!!!!!!

blu, hope it works out, don't fear the sticky situation......!
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yeah well i think that the "flamers" or flambouyantly gay men have created an inaccurate stigma is all i also have a lot of respect for you gay guys who are more normal than flambouyant


I agree. Flamboyantly gay guys do a large disservice to the normal gay population.
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yeah well i think that the "flamers" or flambouyantly gay men have created an inaccurate stigma is all
i also have a lot of respect for you gay guys who are more normal than flambouyant

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I agree, there's a guy in my studio who is gay, but you would never know it unless he told you. He's an extremely cool person that doesn't act in a stereotypical manner at all...he is just himself. I think flaunting any sexuality, hetero or homo, is just for getting attention and nothing more.
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I agree, there's a guy in my studio who is gay, but you would never know it unless he told you.  He's an extremely cool person that doesn't act in a stereotypical manner at all...he is just himself.  I think flaunting any sexuality, hetero or homo, is just for getting attention and nothing more.

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It is an issue that I feel is to be delt with one on one. Not saying be ashamesd of who I am, just don't act like CNN and tell the whole world. Let people know you who you are before they know what you are!
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I'm a third year, but there's no Kristi in my class.  Maybe the grade above me?

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maybe. or a year below? Kristi/Kristine? she's NOT one of the head cases. Very nice! I know this, she interned here this summer where i work. All the guys thought she was pretty cool. Of course, many of them thought she was quite fetching too. I only talked to her a couple times but she seemed very nice and NOT messed in the head. YOU should find out who she is and say hi. you can say opus sent you.

I should dig back thru my email and see if any other Iowaegian State students interned with us this summer. Edited by regfootball
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hmmm, did this one go dead.?

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It did until now.

I had the most incredible weekend with him. Yet, I have NO idea what it all means. We talked like crazy last night and today... and things were said, and from what happened, I could honestly believe that he really likes me as a friend--a "life long" friend as he put it, but would (pardon for my lack of Jewish knowledge) schtoop me too.

Arg... SO confusing.
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It did until now.

I had the most incredible weekend with him.  Yet, I have NO idea what it all means.  We talked like crazy last night and today... and things were said, and from what happened, I could honestly believe that he really likes me as a friend--a "life long" friend as he put it, but would (pardon for my lack of Jewish knowledge) schtoop me too.

Arg... SO confusing.

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Ah yes...the wonderful world of friends with benefits. :rolleyes:
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Ah yes...the wonderful world of friends with benefits.  :rolleyes:

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Yeah, but he knows that I couldn't do that--if we got physical, we'd have to get emotional too.
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Paolino I feel your pain dude. Sympathy for sure.

I'm a guy and can't even find a good GIRL. You have a quarter as many choices as I do out there. Wow. Put that into perspective, folks..

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You know what sucks? I have ALL straight friends... don't like clubs, bars, etc... did them bored of them, don't like the guys that come out of them.

How to meet a man? I don't wear a little rainbow pin so I'm not too obvious LOL

Who knows... he has a few gay friends--maybe he'll hook me up with one--of course, all the while I'll be looking at him :(
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I did have a gay man hitting on me today at work though.. He was fat too lol

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Ugh. There's a time and place for everything--people shouldn't do it at work! Did you let him down gently? LOL
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I work at a petstore. I was getting him some feeder fish and he was obviously gay by the way he talked and stayed real close. Not just an overly nice guy, a guy hitting on me. Not directly, but it was there. I more or less told him to have a nice day while he was trying to tell me that a tadpole would go well with his aquarium and turtles. He stared deep into my eyes. I got scared.
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I work at a petstore. I was getting him some feeder fish and he was obviously gay by the way he talked and stayed real close. Not just an overly nice guy, a guy hitting on me. Not directly, but it was there. I more or less told him to have a nice day while he was trying to tell me that a tadpole would go well with his aquarium and turtles. He stared deep into my eyes. I got scared.

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LoL....youre hilarious. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Aww... Poor NOS. :P But anyways... That sucks, Paulie. I feel for you. I wish I could find somebody. Or somebody could find me since I'm shy. I'm just lonely... depressed... and lonely. Bekah shows no signs of ever having a relationship with me again. She just wants to be friends... *sigh* I keep trying and trying though.
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I work at a petstore. I was getting him some feeder fish and he was obviously gay by the way he talked and stayed real close. Not just an overly nice guy, a guy hitting on me. Not directly, but it was there. I more or less told him to have a nice day while he was trying to tell me that a tadpole would go well with his aquarium and turtles. He stared deep into my eyes. I got scared.

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He was giving you "the look" lol
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Paolino, don't give up on the bar or club scene....you never know who you might meet. I go there just to dance (yeah, even at 44) and 3 1/2 years ago, I spotted a tall, dark man who was just as shy as I was. After more than an hour of dancing around each other (and my heading off with friends to another side of the place), I finally had the nerve to make eye contact, smile and tell him my name. He was (is) from Brazil. He had been in Canada for 3 months. He had 3 months of English so it was a funny, confusing night. He would never have been there except an acquaintance dragged him. (An acquaintance that I had earlier mistaken as a jealous boyfriend that nearly scuttled our ever meeting.) It truly was Fate that we met. I was getting over a nasty break up after 10 years with the same guy that had shot my nerves and self esteem all to hell. I was horribly lonely at the time, but also very bitter and jaded. Claudio is kind, sympathetic and the warmest, most honest and decent man I have ever met. We met from across the globe. Truly, he got me through hell and I probably wouldn't still be here if I hadn't met him when I had (I was on a downhill spiral with...how shall I put it, illegal substances). I truly believe that love will find you when you are least looking for it. Just make yourself available to new experiences.
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Please, sir, don't make me cry...

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Next time a guy hits on you (or a not so cool chick for that matter) tell him/her that your gf has a tadpole and you think they suck! (the tadpole, that is) http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/AH-HA_wink.gif Edited by Cremazie
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Paolino, don't give up on the bar or club scene....you never know who you might meet.
  I go there just to dance (yeah, even at 44) and 3 1/2 years ago, I spotted a tall, dark man who was just as shy as I was.  After more than an hour of dancing around each other (and my heading off with friends to another side of the place), I finally had the nerve to make eye contact, smile and tell him my name.
  He was (is) from Brazil.  He had been in Canada for 3 months.  He had 3 months of English so it was a funny, confusing night. 
  He would never have been there except an acquaintance dragged him.  (An acquaintance that I had earlier mistaken as a jealous boyfriend that nearly scuttled our ever meeting.)
  It truly was Fate that we met.  I was getting over a nasty break up after 10 years with the same guy that had shot my nerves and self esteem all to hell.  I was horribly lonely at the time, but also very bitter and jaded. 
  Claudio is kind, sympathetic and the warmest, most honest and decent man I have ever met.  We met from across the globe.  Truly, he got me through hell and I probably wouldn't still be here if I hadn't met him when I had (I was on a downhill spiral with...how shall I put it, illegal substances).
  I truly believe that love will find you when you are least looking for it.  Just make yourself available to new experiences.

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Well, I am open to new experiences... I met someone online that lives not too far from me, who is into this gay car group (yeah, I couldn't believe they had one), and he wants me to go with him to a meeting. Watch it really be an undercover place that's trying to convert gays LOL

As for bars, well, one of my gripes was that they were too smokey, but I guess with all the new laws, that's not an issue anymore. Still, I dunno. I think I'm going to take a break from meeting anyone right now and just concentrate on myself physically and mentally. That's what John is going to do right now... and hey, if we can build a great friendship first, I'd love that as a base for any relationship--not to say that anything would ever happen--but after yesterday's talk, unfortunately, my hopes are up a little. :( I just don't want to get hurt.
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Heh. Guess you can throw me in the cage, too. See there's a girl at school who I think is amazing. I've talked to her a little before now, though, but now that I'm getting to know her a little better I think that she's great. Grade A personality, Grade A looks, hell, she even plays bass and listens to a lot of the music I do. I think it would be cool just to spend some time with her playing a bass and me just jamming away on guitar. (Shit, I'm a cheezy little fuck.) I don't think she's intrested in me, but, then again, I don't know. (I won't go there. ;) )
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Paulie, may I suggest buying a pair of those Pine Tree air fresheners and wearing them as earrings.  Cuz LOVE STINKS! :angry:  :(

EDIT:  nevermind... he called me tonight!
:wub:

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UGH... and I got the proposition to come over and have some "fun"... but that was it. No getting into a relationship... he just wanted some fun with me.
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