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Tesla Unveils New All-Wheel Drive Model S, Driverless Tech

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Last night, Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced some big changes for the Model S.

The first change is the introduction of all-wheel drive to the Model S lineup, which means the addition of a second electric motor up front. The system dubbed Dual Motor All Wheel Drive works out like this for their lineup,

  • 60D and 85D - Front & Rear Motor: 188 horsepower and 181 pound-feet of torque; Combined: 376 horsepower and 326 torque.
  • P85D - Front Motor: 221 horsepower and 244 pound-feet of torque; Rear Motor: 470 horsepower and 443 pound-feet of torque; Combined: 691 horsepower and 687 pound-feet of torque.

The P85D will take the place of the P85+ as the Model S flagship with a 0-60 MPH time of 3.2 seconds (0.7 seconds faster than the P85+) and a top speed of 155 MPH.

On the range front, the 60D sees a 17 mile increase (208 to 225 miles); the 80D gets a 10 mile increase (265 to 275 miles); and the P85D takes 10 mile hit (285 to 275 miles).

Pricing for the all-wheel drive models is as followed,

  • 60D: $75,070
  • 85D: $85,070
  • P85D: $120,170

Also being announced was Tesla's Autopilot system. The system utilizes a forward-looking camera, a radar sensor, and ultrasonic sensors to give the Model S a 360-degree view of the surrounding road. At the current time, the system will be able to read speed limit and stay at that speed if the driver allows it. The system will also automate lane changes and park itself. Tesla says there will be more features coming to the Autopilot system in the future.

Source: Tesla, Motor Trend, Carscoops, Automobile Magazine

William Maley is a staff writer for Cheers & Gears. He can be reached at william.maley@cheersandgears.com or you can follow him on twitter at @realmudmonster.


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WOW, Impressive Engineering statistics, course still a toy for the Rich. You also cannot do a long road trip like a Fuel based auto, but this is better. I clarify for those that say you can, while we might have what I consider a wasted electric highway. I do not see spending 8hrs or 4hrs at the 120V or 220V charging stations as viable for doing a true road trip out of state or around a large state. Wasted time for charging and Tesla does not have their swap stations in abundance yet to change this.

 

Makes me excited for the VOLT II and what GM will bring to the game.

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The P85D is crazy fast.   I do think it is really impressive that they can make an electric car that is almost GT-R or Corvette Z06 like acceleration.

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Very cool...regular Model Ses have become fairly commonplace sightings, at least in Scottsdale..saw at least 6 in the last two days..

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Has anyone seen an 'Average Buyer Age' stat for Tesla? 

 

Here's what CNBC says back in 2013:

 

Age

 

18-44 yrs. Old: 33.2%

45-64 yrs. old: 50.6%

 

Source: CNBC

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Not at all obvious in attempt to avoid any direct comparisons.

Guess what the median age of a 45-64 spread is? 54.5 yrs old.

 

"What's Tesla going to do when it's current crop of buyers dies off??"

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My brother has a Tesla.  He has done the 400 mile San Francisco to L.A. trip with no problem.  Just need one stop at the supercharger station in the middle of the trip at the Grapevine during a lunch break.  Another charge at LAX the next day to get back to the Grapevine..

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The CNBC story is a joke, 13,000 is a small pool and clearly it is the rich buying the car regardless of age. Also 16.2% of the buyers are age 65. That ups the average age that Balthazar states. Once these boomers die off, it will be interesting to see if he can still keep sales or if they dip. Also with Supercharger stations in only select areas, he also still has limited appeal due to price and long charge times.

 

Nice cars, but limited appeal. Add a CNG generator to allow longer road trips and you have a winner winner Kobe Beef dinner!

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Watch the numbers on the speedometer fly!

 

 

My parents actually had an early 2013 Model S. It was one of the rare 40-kWh, sub-$60,000 cars that Tesla later cancelled. Interesting fact: the car was actually a 60-kWh car but electronically limited to 160 miles of range. No actual 40-kWh cars were made; they were all 60s that could be "unlocked" if you paid Tesla another ten grand.

 

My parents kept the car for a year and ended up selling it for a bit more than they paid new. They're now leasing a Volt as they wait for the Model III. As cool as the Volt is, it's not quite as nice to drive as a Model S.

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The CNBC story is a joke, 13,000 is a small pool and clearly it is the rich buying the car regardless of age. Also 16.2% of the buyers are age 65. That ups the average age that Balthazar states. Once these boomers die off, it will be interesting to see if he can still keep sales or if they dip. Also with Supercharger stations in only select areas, he also still has limited appeal due to price and long charge times.

 

Nice cars, but limited appeal. Add a CNG generator to allow longer road trips and you have a winner winner Kobe Beef dinner!

By next year, I wouldn't be surprised if it's easier to find a Supercharger than a public CNG station:

 

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:roflmao:

 

That map is a nice pipe dream, most of those dots still do not exist. I can find more CNG filling stations than these vaporware tesla charging stations.

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:roflmao:

 

That map is a nice pipe dream, most of those dots still do not exist. I can find more CNG filling stations than these vaporware tesla charging stations.

They do exist. Two weeks ago, Tesla hit the 200 mark, and they're growing at the rate of one new location per day.

 

http://insideevs.com/tesla-opens-supercharger-200/

 

To be honest, a CNG range extender is a horrible idea. Probably the worst idea in the world, no offense. I tried searching for CNG filling stations, and they're located at bus depots, dump truck yards, gas company lots, taxi co-ops, and ports. None of these locations are convenient to the public. Talk about range anxiety! 

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:roflmao:

 

That map is a nice pipe dream, most of those dots still do not exist. I can find more CNG filling stations than these vaporware tesla charging stations.

They do exist. Two weeks ago, Tesla hit the 200 mark, and they're growing at the rate of one new location per day.

 

http://insideevs.com/tesla-opens-supercharger-200/

 

To be honest, a CNG range extender is a horrible idea. Probably the worst idea in the world, no offense. I tried searching for CNG filling stations, and they're located at bus depots, dump truck yards, gas company lots, taxi co-ops, and ports. None of these locations are convenient to the public. Talk about range anxiety! 

 

I will have to go out and take a picture next time I am in the area, Tesla has signs talking about stations coming in the future but they do not exist today. Marketing Fluff of BS.

 

Seattle has CNG stations all over and they are very easy for the public to access and use. Prices are half what Petro costs and is very clean as to why it is a Green Fuel. Plus with Bi-Fuel Auto's like the Impala, Cruze, Civic, Ford Transit and all the full size trucks, no need for anxiety unlike spending 4 or 8 hours of sitting on your ass waiting for your over priced car to charge.

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If they had a cheaper model they would get a lot of younger buyers.  I think people under 35 would be more open to an electric car than people over 35.  Most people under 35 just can't afford $100,000 car or even a $40,000 car.

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Let's not forget the Range Anxiety all Electric auto's have. Run past their very limited range and boom you have a 4-8hr sit time to wait for it to charge if someone is nice enough to let you use their 110 outlet.

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Most people aren't going more than 200 miles per day, most of the world only drive 40 miles a day or less.  The Tesla has plenty of range.  For those that need to travel halfway across the country they can get on an airplane. 

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But not all like to fly and road trips are great, so electric does not cut it. It is still a half ass approach to a complete freedom machine.

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...or grow a pair as a nation and admit we need to move away from petroleum. Building more charging stations should be a high national priority.

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