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58 minutes ago, dfelt said:

That looks like a NJ plate on that truck. :P 

Ummmhmmm....yes...

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1 hour ago, ykX said:

Ohio is on the list of highest move out states as well :)

The top outbound states for 2018 were:

1.     New Jersey

2.     Illinois

3.     Connecticut

4.     New York

5.     Kansas

6.     Ohio

7.     Massachusetts

8.     Iowa

9.     Montana

10. Michigan

Columbus is a great place to live. And people moving out of state means housing is still affordable. 

6 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Yup, good ole IL is #2. I wouldn't live here if finding a job and moving were super easy. 

Illinois is one of the most corrupt states in the union, especially Chicago.

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Some talented driving there...notice how the Vette pulls ahead on the straights and the type R reels him in during the corners...neat video. 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/us/gm-toledo-racism-lawsuit/index.html

CNN...yes....but a shame this happens inside of a GM plant. 

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This storm we're supposed to get is all over the place.  Sometimes we're getting 1 inch of snow, other times we're getting 1 foot of snow. Right now its in the 3 - 5 inch range. 

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1 hour ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Illinois is one of the most corrupt states in the union, especially Chicago.

Absolutely. The state is fckd. 

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8 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

This storm we're supposed to get is all over the place.  Sometimes we're getting 1 inch of snow, other times we're getting 1 foot of snow. Right now its in the 3 - 5 inch range. 

Trying to decide if we are going to make a tournament in Cleveland Saturday. 

1 minute ago, ccap41 said:

Absolutely. The state is fckd. 

With a couple of exceptions everyone above me in public office above the local level is pretty much at the bottom of the ethical moral universe in ways that one can't even imagine. You are not alone, brother. 

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Not doing anything here outside Cleveland right now...my sister says it's snowing over in Maumee (Toledo area)..she's driving home from work around 5 (weekly back and forth on the Ohio Turnpike).     It's supposed to snow a bit tonight then the big storm Saturday starting around midday and going through Sunday afternoon is what I've heard.  But I'm sure the forecast will change again... 

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17 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Not doing anything here outside Cleveland right now...my sister says it's snowing over in Maumee (Toledo area)..she's driving home from work around 5 (weekly back and forth on the Ohio Turnpike).     It's supposed to snow a bit tonight then the big storm Saturday starting around midday and going through Sunday afternoon is what I've heard.  But I'm sure the forecast will change again... 

nothing here yet either.

We're moving Albert's parents to a new apartment on Saturday, so we're keeping a very close eye on the weather. 

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3 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

A little something to get @dfelt a little excited. 

Ford F-150 EV

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The grille on that illustration reminds me of the early 90s Escort GT...

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5 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

The grille on that illustration reminds me of the early 90s Escort GT...

YUP! I actually think it works,.in a weird way. It's a little obnoxious in that color but I think the off center emblem and "grille" look pretty cool. 

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7 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

YUP! I actually think it works,.in a weird way. It's a little obnoxious in that color but I think the off center emblem and "grille" look pretty cool. 

Agree completely. And Ford will totally rock an electric F150.

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Or lets do Gas power and Ford...

 

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2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

A little something to get @dfelt a little excited. 

Ford F-150 EV

ford-f-150-ev.jpg.785d2d3ee371b99de017ce83b82ddf2c.jpg

 

2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

YUP! I actually think it works,.in a weird way. It's a little obnoxious in that color but I think the off center emblem and "grille" look pretty cool. 

Thank you, that is very cool and exciting.

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7 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

I do like some parts of Florida..having lived in the Keys in middle school and high school.    Not sure where I'm going to retire to eventually, ideally some place w/ mountains and beaches.     My sister plans to retire in about 5 years and winter in Florida.    

The Florida Keys look gorgeous! 

I see you have moved around in your life time. And you aint done yet!  

👍 

 

With Montreal weather being frigid the last couple of days and a snow storm to come in the next few, a place with hot, sun kissed beaches sounds good right about now, never you mind when retirement comes!!!

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Another Jerseyian here, so I can relate. Wife & I have already (jokingly) started talking about which states are a new possibility (most under the guise of ruling out those that aren't). Standard of living is very high and there's a ton of employment opportunity... but yeah; Jersey has 2 major cons: congestion and taxation. We're good staying until retirement, but the way the [usual politicians] continually crank taxes up on everything, they're bulldozing people to the borders.

Whoever stated that 'economies of scale' lower prices has yet to explain how the most densely-populated state has the highest property taxes in the nation. My town would moan when one of the major corporations left, talking about ratables being down, so they had to raise taxes to compensate. Then a new, bigger corporation would settle in... and they raise taxes to provide services. I guess they assume no one is paying attention- too numb from the 10,000 needles into the vein.

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You folk bitchin' 'bout taxes?  Something or other 'bout services?

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Quebec resident here! 

We take the cake!!!

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4 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

You folk bitchin' 'bout taxes?  Something or other 'bout services?

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Quebec resident here! 

We take the cake!!!

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Or more accurately your government takes your cake.

20 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Another Jerseyian here, so I can relate. Wife & I have already (jokingly) started talking about which states are a new possibility (most under the guise of ruling out those that aren't). Standard of living is very high and there's a ton of employment opportunity... but yeah; Jersey has 2 major cons: congestion and taxation. We're good staying until retirement, but the way the [usual politicians] continually crank taxes up on everything, they're bulldozing people to the borders.

Whoever stated that 'economies of scale' lower prices has yet to explain how the most densely-populated state has the highest property taxes in the nation. My town would bemoan when one of the major corporations left, talking about ratables being down, so they had to raise taxes to compensate. Then a new. bigger corporations would settle in... and they raise taxes to provide services. I guess they assume no one is paying attention- too numb from the 10,000 needles into the vein.

Even being of a normally more liberal bent...I think of Corey Booker your senator as a world class idiot. New Jersey can no more elect decent leaders than Hyundai can build exciting cars.

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I will see you a GM V18 and raise you a GM V8...and yes I know the V16 is more awesome...but my lust of the moment...

 

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On 1/17/2019 at 11:09 AM, Robert Hall said:

I do like some parts of Florida..having lived in the Keys in middle school and high school.    Not sure where I'm going to retire to eventually, ideally some place w/ mountains and beaches.     My sister plans to retire in about 5 years and winter in Florida.    

In the U.S., mountains and beaches mean only 5 states.  If it's beaches you plan to use (to swim without a wet suit), that means only 2 - California and Hawai'i.  If it's beaches you don't plan on using and can settle for just looking at, that would expand the list to Oregon, Washington, and Alaska.

I definitely like California's topography and climate.  And, when I was a kid, it was laid back and people with broken filters got along just fine.  Now, even California suffers from too much political correctness, not to mention exorbitant housing prices, polarization in its demographics, and overpopulation (soon to approach 40 million residents).

Florida's beaches are way better than California's for recreational use.  (Volusia County's beaches, however, are the ones that give me a little bit of apprehension about swimming.) However, Florida's monotonous pancake flat landscape is what I've got some issues with.  I've thought of moving there since the '90s at one time or another and always keep pulling the plug on the idea.  I definitely like vacationing there.

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Florida has hurricanes and flooding, the West Coast has wildfires, earthquakes, mudslides and other issues.   I love parts of California, but the cost of living and traffic has long turned me off..I like the PNW also...Oregon's beaches in particular I've enjoyed visiting..

Another region w/ mountains (albeit lower) and beaches that I like is the NE..... I do like Maine, New Hampshire and Massachusetts quite a bit..the greenery and coast..I could see myself living up there. 

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On 1/17/2019 at 10:43 AM, ykX said:

The top outbound states for 2018 were:

1.     New Jersey

2.     Illinois

3.     Connecticut

4.     New York

5.     Kansas

6.     Ohio

7.     Massachusetts

8.     Iowa

9.     Montana

10.   Michigan

The list doesn't surprise me all that much.  You've got some expensive Middle Atlantic and New England states, some of the more isolated Midwestern states, and Montana (?).  I thought people were moving to Montana.  Movie stars and rich Californians were going up there to buy ranches.  It's Wyoming they should be moving out of.  Ever driven across it?

Six or seven states (FL, TX, WA, etc.) have no state income tax.  They are definitely picking up residents.  If a state doesn't have one kind of tax, they clobber you with another one.  While TX does not have a state income tax, it has high property taxes to pay for schools and services.  For a $ 200,000 home in The Woodlands (nice suburb of Houston), the property tax is about $ 5,000.  Then, some states don't have sales taxes (OR, MT, etc.).  Oregon has one of the most steeply ascending income tax situations, essentially taking low(er) income earners toward the top bracket (about 9%) in no time flat.  That's what you get when socialists run the place.  In California, where the top bracket exceeds 10%, the steps up to that bracket are very well spaced apart and low(er) income earners are far from being levied that overall tax rate.

Overall, Florida is a good state when you run the numbers - no personal income tax, their unique homestead exemption, reasonable property taxes, and average sales taxes, but not on groceries and pharma.  They also have some sales tax holidays. They probably have the best combo.  New Jersey is steep all the way around.  I don't think the middle of it feels that crowded.  To me, it's just the areas that cluster around NYC and Philly.  New Jersey also wins the crown every year for having America's most dangerous city - Camden.

8 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Florida has hurricanes and flooding, the West Coast has wildfires, earthquakes, mudslides and other issues.   I love parts of California, but the cost of living and traffic has long turned me off..I like the PNW also...Oregon's beaches in particular I've enjoyed visiting..

Another region w/ mountains (albeit lower) and beaches that I like is the NE..... I do like Maine, New Hampshire and Massachusetts quite a bit..the greenery and coast..I could see myself living up there. 

Of those, Maine is really nice.  It's not that populous.  The southern part of the state has the more populous cities and the northern part of the state is pretty much empty.  Bar Harbor and Acadia National Park are incredible.  The view from Cadillac Mountain is unforgettable.  It also borders Quebec and there's a huge French-Canadian factor in its history and fabric.

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I still love Colorado (lived there 12 years), but the parts I like (Denver, Boulder) have become quite expensive since I left. And it's pretty dry and beige, no beaches.  

Ohio has some rather high property tax (Over $4000/yr on my $165k house and about the same on the family farm which is valued around $285k).  and regional income tax (RITA) here in the Cleveland area.

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9 minutes ago, trinacriabob said:

Of those, Maine is really nice.  It's not that populous.  The southern part of the state has the more populous cities and the northern part of the state is pretty much empty.  Bar Harbor and Acadia National Park are incredible.  The view from Cadillac Mountain is unforgettable.  It also borders Quebec and there's a huge French-Canadian factor in its history and fabric.

I want to see more of Maine..was up there in the 90s when my sister lived in Boston..drove up to Kennebunkport and Portland...beautiful state w/ some great beaches. 

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