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was getting oil change today on the chrysler, and they had a loaded gladiator in the showroom.  cool truck, a bit tight inside for my liking but size wise fine for small to mid size truck.  I didn't like climbing up and in to it.  Which of course is ok as an off road machine but as a daily driver I think something with easier ingress and egress and more cabin room would be nice.  Really like the split top and i actually would find the truck bed large enough to be useful (haul the snowblower for example).

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Speaking of the Gladiator, got a fold out Gladiator mini-brochure (top edge shaped like a mountain range) in the mail along w/ a card from my CDJR dealer inviting me in to test drive the Gladiator...

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12 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I'm really wanting hard to like the Gladiator... but not for the price. 

It will be interesting to see what they go for 2-3 years down the line as CPOs or otherwise used. But at the new price point I wouldn't take one over a GC or Ram 1500... I don't need a truck currently, and the novelty of the removable top would wear off probably.  I would like to test drive one, though. 

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6 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

It will be interesting to see what they go for 2-3 years down the line as CPOs or otherwise used. But at the new price point I wouldn't take one over a GC or Ram 1500... I don't need a truck currently, and the novelty of the removable top would wear off probably.  I would like to test drive one, though. 

I've driven one.. They're a bit bouncy like the Wrangler is. 

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That gladiator brochure is HILARIOUS; 2 bicycles and they DO NOT FIT in the bed. Can you imagine being an engineer at Jeep, you make this truck w/ bed vehicle, then you automatically have to engineer all sorts of racks & fitments to hold items ABOVE said bed. 😆

Might as well just have a Gladiator flatbed with a plethora of tie down rings & Jeep-branded straps - it would hold more things.

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I’m used to seeing bicycles hauled on top of vehicles on roof racks or on hitch mounted racks at the rear, would be weird to see them *in* a truck bed.  With them raised like that there is room for other content under them. 

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I just measured a mountain bike in my garage; 69" long. Gladiator bed length : 60". Hilariously sad.

Flatbed option. 20 tie-down rings. Jeep-branded straps. Lock-in mini stake sides. Lock-down storage bins. Minimal lift-over, maximum reach. Pull-out bike ramp. Ultimate configuration options.

You're welcome, FCA.

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3 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I'm really wanting hard to like the Gladiator... but not for the price. 

Pretty much what I was thinking. I love the truck-but the price is just steep!

I feel you could fool around with the four door Jeep and toss stuff into that for much less. Well, minus the tailgate.....

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Or you can buy a real pickup truck with a standard or long bed.

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7 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Or you can buy a real pickup truck with a standard or long bed.

Or that too......

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On 9/7/2019 at 4:31 PM, Drew Dowdell said:

I'm really wanting hard to like the Gladiator... but not for the price. 

Right. But leasing if you do that sort of thing is set up cheap on these right now. 

On 9/7/2019 at 4:51 PM, Drew Dowdell said:

I've driven one.. They're a bit bouncy like the Wrangler is. 

I had a feeling that was the case. 

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2 minutes ago, regfootball said:

Right. But leasing if you do that sort of thing is set up cheap on these right now. 

I had a feeling that was the case. 

I'm buying the next two, I want to be able to take them on the long trips I do without worrying about lease mileage. We already do 14k a year on the Buick and that hasn't even been to FL yet. 

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13 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I'm buying the next two, I want to be able to take them on the long trips I do without worrying about lease mileage. We already do 14k a year on the Buick and that hasn't even been to FL yet. 

Totally agree, I know a coworker who took advantage of the cheap lease deals and got a really nice Jeep GC lease at 15K a year for miles and he is half way through his 3rd year, loves his jeep but is at 54K miles already as he loves driving and camping. Clearly buying would have been better than leasing. He is going to buy the jeep at the end of the lease and is hoping to not get dinged for the miles. 

Since I have never leased, not sure how it works out when you have high miles but want to buy it then.

Any idea?

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8 minutes ago, Potluck said:

You don't get dinged for the mileage if you buy it out.

Cool, thanks will text him as he was wondering about it.

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whoa.  did i miss out on the info on this, SPARK ACTIV.  Now we are even trying to make Sparks look like CUV's.

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5 minutes ago, regfootball said:

whoa.  did i miss out on the info on this, SPARK ACTIV.  Now we are even trying to make Sparks look like CUV's.

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Yea, sharp looking update for the little bugger, but clearly quality problems. As I posted in the August 2019 Auto spotted thread, had a new one with no plates yet in front of me and they braked, left side came on before right side and cyclops center light and the cyclops light only half the LED came on and then the other did.

Wife asked me if that was supposed to do that and I said no. braking lights having electrical gremlins makes me wonder about the whole auto. Not a good sign that they are reliable.

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1 minute ago, dfelt said:

Yea, sharp looking update for the little bugger, but clearly quality problems. As I posted in the August 2019 Auto spotted thread, had a new one with no plates yet in front of me and they braked, left side came on before right side and cyclops center light and the cyclops light only half the LED came on and then the other did.

Wife asked me if that was supposed to do that and I said no. braking lights having electrical gremlins makes me wonder about the whole auto. Not a good sign that they are reliable.

No reason to buy a Spark when an Encore will do better and be better too for your dollar.

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On 9/4/2019 at 11:19 PM, balthazar said:

Man, does HomeAdvisor give some shitty, erroneous information.
"light fixture work : $150 - $750"
"wiring a house : $550 - $750."

Look at that for a half second.

You can't come close to the cost of materials to wire a house to code for that....even in Ohio, which has less bureaucracy than New Jersey you will have that much in a permit, building inspection, and gas driving to the job site. 

9 hours ago, dfelt said:

Totally agree, I know a coworker who took advantage of the cheap lease deals and got a really nice Jeep GC lease at 15K a year for miles and he is half way through his 3rd year, loves his jeep but is at 54K miles already as he loves driving and camping. Clearly buying would have been better than leasing. He is going to buy the jeep at the end of the lease and is hoping to not get dinged for the miles. 

Since I have never leased, not sure how it works out when you have high miles but want to buy it then.

Any idea?

If you go over 100k you may have a problem getting a loan from some banks.  My bank will not write a loan on anything over 100k, and gives a serious ding to higher miles if you refinance. 

Given the low cost of financing a new car,  you are better off buying it outright and getting the 2.9 percent or whatever....because if you are  buying it out of lease you will be paying used car finance rates, which are seemingly almost always much higher. 

8 hours ago, regfootball said:

whoa.  did i miss out on the info on this, SPARK ACTIV.  Now we are even trying to make Sparks look like CUV's.

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Not bad, but not terribly appealing either. 

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On 9/7/2019 at 5:44 PM, Robert Hall said:

It will be interesting to see what they go for 2-3 years down the line as CPOs or otherwise used. But at the new price point I wouldn't take one over a GC or Ram 1500... I don't need a truck currently, and the novelty of the removable top would wear off probably.  I would like to test drive one, though. 

I will loose my Ford hater card for posting this, but i am interested in the Bronco when it comes out. I think it will be an interesting little buggy.... 

On 9/7/2019 at 11:08 PM, riviera74 said:

Or you can buy a real pickup truck with a standard or long bed.

depends on what you want....the cost of cars seems to have gone up really substantially. 

 

On 9/7/2019 at 9:10 AM, dfelt said:

WOW, No I had not ever seen this or hear about it, thanks for the video. Still ugly to me, but WOW, that is AMAZING engineering. Love it! :metal:

Love the off the cliff test and the Suicide doors still work! :D 

I actually find it attractive. 

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5 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I will loose my Ford hater card for posting this, but i am interested in the Bronco when it comes out. I think it will be an interesting little buggy.... 

Let's hope they stay true to the roots and keep it a RWD SUV rather than a FWD CUV based. If they do that I think it will still sell but loose some off road creds for a FWD/AWD CUV.

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