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4 minutes ago, ykX said:

Just recently there was a statistics published that in US more EVs are sold than cars with manual transmission.   It is not a huge indication, but it is a direction market is slowly going

Now THIS saddens me. 

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  1 hour ago, ykX said:

Just recently there was a statistics published that in US more EVs are sold than cars with manual transmission.   It is not a huge indication, but it is a direction market is slowly going

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

Now THIS saddens me. 

According to the recent news, there are 48 models in the US for 2019 year that offer manual transmissions. https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/best-manual-transmission-cars

According to Statista, seems they will be around for a bit. https://www.statista.com/statistics/204123/transmission-type-market-share-in-automobile-production-worldwide/

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Sadly while this might give some hope, Toyota has come out and clearly said Manuals are dead. https://www.hotcars.com/manual-transmission-toyota-sales-data/

Their sales data showed 2,800 or just 1% of all corollas sold were with a Manual transmission not justifying the investment. Tacoma and Yaris only 5% were manuals that were sold. Even their Toyota 86 only 33% were manual. The small amount of sales is not justifying the R&D costs and certification costs.

Replacing Manual Transmissions is the Flappy Paddel that gamers have come to enjoy playing race games. Seems the youth of today do not want to row gears, but flap them instead!

This is in comparison to Mazda that shows 76% of Miata's sold are manual here, but drops to single digits for their other autos. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/15/mazda-mx5-miata-manual-take-rate/

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@dfelt Why would anyone buy a Corolla with manual?  I doubt there were a lot manual Corollas even 10-15 years ago. 

I am surprised though that 86 has only 33% of manual transmission sales.  That really puzzles me, especially considering Miata has so many more manual takers.

Makes sense to have manual in the car that has some soul and spunk, not commuting appliance.

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26 minutes ago, ykX said:

@dfelt Why would anyone buy a Corolla with manual?  I doubt there were a lot manual Corollas even 10-15 years ago. 

I am surprised though that 86 has only 33% of manual transmission sales.  That really puzzles me, especially considering Miata has so many more manual takers.

Makes sense to have manual in the car that has some soul and spunk, not commuting appliance.

In olden days, penny pinchers bought econoboxes w/ manuals because they were usually the cheapest, and got better gas mileage than automatics.    That is odd about the 86, would have thought it would have similar numbers as the Miata. 

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1 hour ago, ykX said:

@dfelt Why would anyone buy a Corolla with manual?  I doubt there were a lot manual Corollas even 10-15 years ago. 

I am surprised though that 86 has only 33% of manual transmission sales.  That really puzzles me, especially considering Miata has so many more manual takers.

Makes sense to have manual in the car that has some soul and spunk, not commuting appliance.

Take it for the limited info I could quickly dig up, but while Mazda is at the bottom of the list for average age buyers compared to Toyota per Carmax, the two auto's we speak of here are opposite age groups. Miata has a much older age base of buyers that had exposure to manual transmissions. Toyota 86 is a Millennial thing where Flappy Paddles on an Xbox or Play station steering wheel and not exposed to actual manual transmission auto's. This tends to make sense.

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The Miata does skew older, esp. those seeking the pure sports car experience....it's like an old British sports car without the unreliability and misery. 

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1 hour ago, dfelt said:

Seems

Seems that way.  But how can we be sure?

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Happy 57th, Drew!  Hopefully you had a good day so far!

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One thing I've noticed is that I see more Model-X and S in the wild than I see S-Class... and I like the S-Class, so they catch my eye. 

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5 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

One thing I've noticed is that I see more Model-X and S in the wild than I see S-Class... and I like the S-Class, so they catch my eye. 

Misaligned belt moldings and general crappy workmanship catch my eye in a negative way (Tesla hallmarks).

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5 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

...I like the S-Class, so they catch my eye. 

They've been stylistically pretty much the same since 1999, so it should seem like there's a lot of them out there.

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On 11/6/2019 at 11:49 PM, balthazar said:

I don't think they need to be THAT cheap, but certainly they have to come in starting in the high 20s. This $45-90K $h! ain't workin.

Cheaper than a home is a good start.....

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Soooo SMELLY!  lol

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2020 Buick Encore GX data has been added to the GM online order guide, if anyone wants to view it.

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Curious to see that guide...

 

Here comes the snowstorm/polar vortex...... 😮 

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On 11/10/2019 at 9:03 AM, ocnblu said:

2020 Buick Encore GX data has been added to the GM online order guide, if anyone wants to view it.

CAn you link me? My old link appears to be broken.

On 11/9/2019 at 2:38 PM, balthazar said:

How some EV fans talk about maintenance on IC vehicles :

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Fully capable of 100mph scheduled service too. 

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Well, we'll see if this recession is really a thing I guess.  50% employee cuts across the board at work. 

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11 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Well, we'll see if this recession is really a thing I guess.  50% employee cuts across the board at work. 

At your work? 🤔

I see Hong Kong is officially in a recession along with Russia, Italy, Greece, Japan, and I could go on but yea, I think the Global economy is taking a pause.

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4 minutes ago, dfelt said:

At your work? 🤔

I see Hong Kong is officially in a recession along with Russia, Italy, Greece, Japan, and I could go on but yea, I think the Global economy is taking a pause.

Yeah.  I'm possibly losing my job by the end of the year.   I've been there 13 years though, so my severance package will be good.  I'm not super worried about it.  Might even take some time off. 

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