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10 hours ago, daves87rs said:

Dang, maybe I really need to shop out of my area for Jeeps.....

When I was looking with the wife, there were no deals around here to be had. 😞  It’s funny you mention it, as I checked your area with the Compass as well and got some of the same results...cheaper for them there too.

Guess I might have to visit some car friends so I can get a good deal on a Jeep... 🙂 It is interesting, as it’s not hard to find a deal on a Ford or GM product......

Illinois is a little closer to you than Washington! Hahaha

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3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

Illinois is a little closer to you than Washington! Hahaha

Better Scenery, great road trip! :P 

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24 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Better Scenery, great road trip! :P 

Hands down, correct

Southern IL has zero scenery. 

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28 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Hands down, correct

Southern IL has zero scenery. 

Yeah, I remember when crossing the void a few years ago the drive on I-70 from St Louis to Columbus being pretty dull.... almost as dull as I-40 from Albuquerque to OK City through the Texas panhandle...

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1 hour ago, Robert Hall said:

Yeah, I remember when crossing the void a few years ago the drive on I-70 from St Louis to Columbus being pretty dull.... almost as dull as I-40 from Albuquerque to OK City through the Texas panhandle...

You may have passed about 1/2 mile from me, if I was at my parents' house. Their subdivision somewhat backs up to the interstate. On a clear and calm night you can hear the semis. 

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3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

On a clear and calm night you can hear the semis. 

In some contexts, a semi can be an embarrassment.

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4 hours ago, balthazar said:

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1963 called...

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On 2/2/2020 at 9:47 AM, ocnblu said:

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Granted, this may not be excitement but I remember what a step forward these were (sort of). 

After driving in Europe, driving in NYC is a joke but it used to be sort of scary. I was once given a large wallowing sedan as an upgrade and driving it in NYC, where parkways are narrower and ramps are shorter, was unnerving, coming from the West.

Then, I was given a base model of one of these as a rental.  It was white.  Possibly wheel covers.  Probably a gray interior.  Probably a 2.5 liter 4 Iron Duke.  With its small size and rack and pinion steering, I was driving it around Manhattan, the Bronx, northern New Jersey, etc. with some confidence.  These were sort of "cute" when they were released on this chassis.  They sure were popular.

I don't know how well they held up.  After 15 years into this gen of Grand Am, I really didn't see any around.

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On 2/13/2020 at 2:02 PM, ccap41 said:

Hands down, correct

Southern IL has zero scenery. 

This is funny.  I think the very southern part of IL has some hills and forests in it, being closer to Arkansas and all.  The town of Galena always makes some lists for being a cool place ... hippie dippy shops and restaurants, if that interests someone.  I wonder if you're thinking central Illinois ... Champaign, Bloomington-Normal, Danville, Decatur, Springfield, Peoria ... just no.  Champaign, IL is one place I am still trying to expunge from my head decades later.  And, of course, you can't forget East Saint Louis.  I've actually set foot in it since Saint Louis's Metrolink trains cross the bridge into it and you can walk down this massive steel staircase and then a few hundred yards to either a casino or to look back at the Gateway Arch.  It feels "somewhat" secure, given that it's not far from this hotel-casino.  However, something still doesn't feel just right about it.

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5 minutes ago, trinacriabob said:

This is funny.  I think the very southern part of IL has some hills and forests in it, being closer to Arkansas and all.  The town of Galena always makes some lists for being a cool place ... hippie dippy shops and restaurants, if that interests someone.  I wonder if you're thinking central Illinois ... Champaign, Bloomington-Normal, Danville, Decatur, Springfield, Peoria ... just no.  Champaign, IL is one place I am still trying to expunge from my head decades later.  And, of course, you can't forget East Saint Louis.  I've actually set foot in it since Saint Louis's Metrolink trains cross the bridge into it and you can walk down this massive steel staircase and then a few hundred yards to either a casino or to look back at the Gateway Arch.  It feels "somewhat" secure, given that it's not far from this hotel-casino.  However, something still doesn't feel just right about it.

Yeah, that's true. The very southern part of the state is pretty but 95% of the rest is flat and boring. 

Oh that's East St. Louis for ya and it's actually super sketchy over there. About the only safe-ish place is the Casino..lol 

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On 2/14/2020 at 4:16 AM, ocnblu said:

1963 called...

Someone was inspired by the new Silverado.  Look at that vent between the fender and grille surround.  Or maybe a GM designer saw this and was inspired? 

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1 hour ago, balthazar said:

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1959?  1958?  It sure does need some TLC.

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15 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

1959?  1958?  It sure does need some TLC.

1959.  Has patina in spades..

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2 hours ago, balthazar said:

Would be awesome just like that, with a CT6-V powertrain.

 

I could see that..an Icon Derelict style build.

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They cleaned this up in TWELVE HOURS??
25 derailed & tangled cars also spilling into the roadway below?
What has happened to work crews in recent years?

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Random bit of info, since I like to read articles about pets and owners ...

A study determined that, on average, a DOG loves its owner 5 X more so than a CAT.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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14 hours ago, balthazar said:

They cleaned this up in TWELVE HOURS??
25 derailed & tangled cars also spilling into the roadway below?
What has happened to work crews in recent years?

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Union BS is what has happened to people wanting to be paid to wait around and do nothing till the person responsible for picking up one item does their job first before the second one does there. The inefficient unions have gone from the early days of helping people to making them lazy as costs go crazy up assigning a job to one person and everyone waiting for them first.

It is pathetic how lazy basic manual labor has become in the last 40 years due to corrupt labor unions.

3 hours ago, trinacriabob said:

Random bit of info, since I like to read articles about pets and owners ...

A study determined that, on average, a DOG loves its owner 5 X more so than a CAT.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I can believe that, dogs love even when you yell at them. Cats, too independent and focused on licking themselves.

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