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3 minutes ago, daves87rs said:

Got a chance to clean up a few cars today......

Which ones and what did you do to them?

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2 minutes ago, David said:

Which ones and what did you do to them?

Sadly, too late for pictures, but..

Equinox got a wash and quick spray waxing, and I vacuumed it too. Only need to wipe down the dash... 🙂 

Cobalt also got a wash and a quick spray waxing. Didn’t get the chance to clean the inside though. (But it is in pretty good shape). Also did not realize one can get cheap weathertech “knock offs” on EBay. Want to replace the old carpeted mats...the ebay ones are made in Europe- and the whole set is like 70 bucks. And for a beater, that is a good price....

Also need to get my old Cavalier a new battery...current one is dated 5/11....... 😮 

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27 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Make it $10 trillion. No, wait; make all roads solar paneled & self-melting (yes; even in Death Valley). Make it 25 Quadrillion. Must. Eliminate. Any and all. Possibilities. Of. An. Issue. Of. Any. Sort.

I agree with that sarcasm 100%

However...

When a politician has OBVIOUS BIASES...he/she should NOT blame the technology that he/she is against when OBVIOUSLY the technology WORKS EVERYWHERE ELSE on the PHOQUING planet...when the PROPER ENGINEERING is applied to that SPECIFIC area of failure...

Its LAUGHABLE at best. Its downright DISGUSTING and ABHORRENT at the LACK of phoquing intelligence these ladies and/or gents are displaying at worst. 

Dont get me started on the voyages to warmer (party atmosphere) climates...

Cant get more phoquing tone deaf that that...

Hence the Spanish spoken/Mexican party songs and Senor Frogs references earlier...   

 

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3 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Its downright DISGUSTING and ABHORRENT at the LACK of phoquing intelligence these ladies and/or gents are displaying at worst. 

You have to have a license to plant a bush for a homeowner, but there is no aptitude test or licensing to be a politician.

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Seems strange even to me to think of Merc in its own store. 

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We've all probably seen claims which portray older generations as a lot tougher than more recent ones. 
In a lot of ways I believe that's true (for better or worse). Anyway, I thought of that when I happened upon this pic from 1936

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2 hours ago, balthazar said:

Seems strange even to me to think of Merc in its own store. 

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We've all probably seen claims which portray older generations as a lot tougher than more recent ones. 
In a lot of ways I believe that's true (for better or worse). Anyway, I thought of that when I happened upon this pic from 1936

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It’s hard to argue, that is for sure. Fighting wars is the first thing that comes to mind......

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Real enthusiasts still value the fun factor of manual transmission!

70% of Porsche 911 GT3 Buyers In the US Bought the Manual Transmission

70% of Porsche 911 GT3 Buyers In the US Bought the Manual Transmission (thedrive.com)

The Porsche 911 GT3 has always been one of the brand's most fun-to-drive track day specials, and for many drivers, there is no substitute for a manual transmission. Porsche's decision to put a manual transmission back into the 911 GT3 paid off far more than the brand expected, especially in the United States, where the take rate for the last-generation manual GT3 was 70%.
While many armchair stats-fiends love to argue that the double-clutch gearbox is faster, the 911 GT3's six-speed manual is simply more fun to a lot of people who don't mind losing that fraction of a second at every corner on track. (You can't win the track day, Dickie Speedmaster.)

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Muntz Anyone?

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Stellantis layoffs have begun as of Feb 20th 2021 150 people were indefinitely laid off at the Belvidere Illinois plant.

Stellantis Laying off 150 Jeep Employees in Illinois - The Truth About Cars

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Jeep has a big choice ahead. Honor the Indian tribes and stop using their names on auto's or ignor them drawing rath from the tribes and people around the country and world.

In reading this story, I like the suggestion given to Jeep. Rename the auto line after national parks.

So with the parks theme, you would have it like this:

  • Jeep Yellowstone
  • Jeep Yosemite
  • Jeep Denali
  • Jeep Badlands
  • Jeep Biscayne
  • Jeep Glacier
  • Jeep Olympic
  • Jeep Redwood
  • Jeep Zion

Thoughts on how Jeep should reboot their names, especially the Cherokee lineup?

What Should The Jeep Cherokee’s New Name Be? (jalopnik.com)

List of national parks of the United States - Wikipedia

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18 hours ago, David said:

Interesting comparison of luxury level auto's and what is considered a good inexpensive equal.

Luxury For Less: 5 Budget-Friendly Alternatives to Luxury Cars (motortrend.com)

Actually in every case I actually prefer the cheaper alternative....even if they were the same price. 

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5 hours ago, ykX said:

Real enthusiasts still value the fun factor of manual transmission!

70% of Porsche 911 GT3 Buyers In the US Bought the Manual Transmission

70% of Porsche 911 GT3 Buyers In the US Bought the Manual Transmission (thedrive.com)

The Porsche 911 GT3 has always been one of the brand's most fun-to-drive track day specials, and for many drivers, there is no substitute for a manual transmission. Porsche's decision to put a manual transmission back into the 911 GT3 paid off far more than the brand expected, especially in the United States, where the take rate for the last-generation manual GT3 was 70%.
While many armchair stats-fiends love to argue that the double-clutch gearbox is faster, the 911 GT3's six-speed manual is simply more fun to a lot of people who don't mind losing that fraction of a second at every corner on track. (You can't win the track day, Dickie Speedmaster.)

Good to know...

Strange enough, i could see people actually thinking like this. 

 

May be an image of one or more people and text that says 'If God Devotionals Loves Me, 8 for'Teens Why Can't'I Own and operate a midget brothel?'

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@A Horse With No Name Just read this and it is good as I am sure we all could use a good rub on getting the scratches out of our paint jobs.

Rain is supposed to go away this afternoon, going to clean the SS on Saturday and then probably Monday the Escalade.

Best car scratch removers in 2021 - Roadshow (cnet.com)

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3 hours ago, David said:

Jeep has a big choice ahead. Honor the Indian tribes and stop using their names on auto's or ignor them drawing rath from the tribes and people around the country and world.

In reading this story, I like the suggestion given to Jeep. Rename the auto line after national parks.

So with the parks theme, you would have it like this:

  • Jeep Yellowstone
  • Jeep Yosemite
  • Jeep Denali
  • Jeep Badlands
  • Jeep Biscayne
  • Jeep Glacier
  • Jeep Olympic
  • Jeep Redwood
  • Jeep Zion

Thoughts on how Jeep should reboot their names, especially the Cherokee lineup?

What Should The Jeep Cherokee’s New Name Be? (jalopnik.com)

List of national parks of the United States - Wikipedia

Denali and Biscayne are GM names, so those wouldn't work, Zion seems religious.   I'd like Cuyahoga after my local national park, but don't see that happening. It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this...Cherokee has been a Jeep name for 45+ years, and it's never been used offensively.   They have used Western regional names before for trim levels like Laredo.   Aspen would be a good name.  Rainer would be good, no one likely remembers the Buick SUV.  

 it's too bad Chevy uses Colorado; that would be the PERFECT Jeep SUV name, IMO. 

I could see them taking one of the current trim levels and promoting it to a model name--Overland.  Has a lot of history with Jeep, and fits the rugged off road image. I could see the Cherokee becoming the Overland, and the GC becoming the Grand Overland.  They could then have Grand Overland Laredo,  Grand Overland Limited, Grand Overland Summit, etc...

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1 hour ago, David said:

Jeep Denali

Umm....

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I find no dishonor or negativity to 'Jeep Cherokee' whatsoever. 
I can see folk objecting to -say- Chief Wahoo; it's on the goofy side... but people who internalize a characterization personally obviously have issues coping. Not everything is about or a reflection of you.

But objecting to the Land O Lakes maiden (completely respectful/complimentary) or 'Cherokee' strains credibility. There's a Harrah's Cherokee Casino in Cherokee NC; yes- it's part of the Eastern Cherokee Nation but what about a casino is remotely cultural? 

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21 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Umm....

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I find no dishonor or negativity to 'Jeep Cherokee' whatsoever. 
I can see folk objecting to -say- Chief Wahoo; it's on the goofy side... but people who internalize a characterization personally obviously have issues coping. Not everything is about or a reflection of you.

But objecting to the Land O Lakes maiden (completely respectful/complimentary) or 'Cherokee' strains credibility. There's a Harrah's Cherokee Casino in Cherokee NC; yes- it's part of the Eastern Cherokee Nation but what about a casino is remotely cultural? 

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Very True, but the fact that the Chief of the Cherokee Nation is asking for them to stop using it and he represents the tribe, I have to think that Stellantis will be respectful and change the names.

Thought it was a good auto discussion as I get the tribe will use the name as they see fit on their own tribe, gambling, etc. but I think American businesses are going to have to rethink how they name things.

I do like the park idea.

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14 hours ago, balthazar said:

Seems strange even to me to think of Merc in its own store. 

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We've all probably seen claims which portray older generations as a lot tougher than more recent ones. 
In a lot of ways I believe that's true (for better or worse). Anyway, I thought of that when I happened upon this pic from 1936

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They were quite the cars in the day. 

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1 hour ago, David said:

Very True, but the fact that the Chief of the Cherokee Nation is asking for them to stop using it and he represents the tribe, I have to think that Stellantis will be respectful and change the names.

Is he only asking because he's not getting a cut? Jeep undoubtedly has a legal copyright on the nameplate; they're not bound by anything legal to drop the name. I hope they don't, and the Cherokee Nation rep sees the issue more clearly.

I've certainly heard polar opposite opinions from native Americans RE like symbolism. I tend to agree with that side, which has expressed it that cancelling any symbolism feels like 'eradicating' the culture all over again; as long as it's not openly derogatory, it's better than being invisible.

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12 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Is he only asking because he's not getting a cut? Jeep undoubtedly has a legal copyright on the nameplate; they're not bound by anything legal to drop the name. I hope they don't, and the Cherokee Nation rep sees the issue more clearly.
 

My cynical side sees this is as an attempt at a shakedown of  Stellantis..

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