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Rumors have been flying around for few years of a Ford Fiesta RS. The model would sit above the ST and use the same turbocharged 1.6L four-cylinder. The difference is the RS would use an uprated turbo. Other changes included a more aggressive body kit and retuned suspension.

 

But Tyrone Johnson, Ford Performance’s chief engineer and head of vehicles says there isn't a Fiesta RS in the pipeline.

 

“In terms of Fiesta RS, I have seen some comments from senior Ford people that it’s definitely not in the plan. Typically we don’t talk about future products but in that particular one there has been some comments that it’s definitely not in the plan,” Johnson said to CarAdvice.

 

Currently, Ford Performance still has seven out of twelve models to still reveal before 2020 (models already revealed: Fiesta ST, Focus ST, Focus RS, Mustang GT350R, and GT supercar). With the Fiesta RS out, it makes wonder what are the remaining seven.

 

Source: CarAdvice
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Would the Fusion Sport be considered as one of these performance cars?

 

Sure the Fusion Sport does not "sport" (pun intended) "RS",  "ST" or "SHO" badging, or it might not even offer RevoKnuckle suspension systems, it does have a 325 horse/350 ft.lbs torque  2.7 liter ecoboosted V6 under the hood. This amount of power in this segment of mid-level pricing of family hauling vehicles simply has faded away only for the Fusion give it back to us in a very big way.

 

I think it qualifies as a performance vehicle.

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About the Fiesta RS...and about it not happening...

 

Having more power and more  boy racer plastic body parts...well, the days of The Fast and the Furious is practically over (the original era which was the 1990s, not the 2000s when the movies came out...because that movement that the movie depicts was a decade late actually, the tuner scene was already waning off)  OK, maybe not completely, but as we see how the F&F movie franchise evolved, more Muscle than Pocket Rocket reflects how the Charger, Challenger, Mustang, Camaro and Corvette all banded together to defeat the turbo 4 cylinder offensive.

 

OK...the turbo 4 movement has evolved into everything...family cars, CUVs, SUVs, premium luxury cars, but that is the thing...people have moved on from street racing glory depicted in movies. I think Ford realizes that maybe a person interested in a Fiesta RS, he might just build his own rather than have a swath of consumers clamoring for it in a showroom floor. 

Besides, there is the Mustang that fills that need probably more than a Fiesta RS...like I said, that F&F era was scorching hot in the 1990s, hot in the early 2000s and now it seems to be luke warm.  The Pony car wars are where its at again.

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Yet with F&F 8 word on the street is returning to the Tuner scene of the pocket rocket. Paul Walker felt the need to return the franchise to it's original roots and what real people could afford.

 

I can understand not building a Festiva RS, but if the performance department will have kits, they can sell plenty of upgrades, body packages, etc and not have to deal with the mess of actually building an RS.

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I view the returning of the F&F franchise back to its roots is just playing homage to Mr. Walker.

 

And if they do make a F&F 8, I would definitely would want to see souped-up ecoboosted 4 cylinder Mustangs and  hyperboosted 4 cylinder Camaros...

Alongside with  Chevy LS V8 stuffed Subaru/Toyota BRZ/FRS.

And all cars mentioned with the fancy Japanese vinyl car graphics...

What a complete role reversal that would be...anyhoo...

 

I am disappointed that Ford is choosing not to produce the Fiesta RS. Although a Fiesta RS is about 10 years too late and much of the hooplah surrounding these types of cars have waned off, because the major audience and participants of this market have all grown up, it'd be cool to see an American car manufacturer prove to the Japanese and those pesky Germans that America builds  the best tunerz along with the best Muscle Cars...

 

America....&%^# YEAH!!!

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All I know is, when I drove a Fiesta ST I had a grin on my face like few cars have ever been able to do for me. The car is a blast to drive as it is. I really don't think they need a 7/8 scale RS.  It kind of dilutes the rarity of the RS even. And honestly, Ford Performance offers (or will soon enough) something for everyone anyway.

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I could see the Fiesta RS being a UK item, not US...seems hot hatches are still popular across the pond.  Do they mean not happening in the US or not happening, period?   And delft, note that it is 'Fiesta', not 'Festiva'... ;)

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The Focus RS needed AWD due to a significant amount of power for the chassis.

A Fiesta RS would need about 300hp to have a similar power to weight.  Sure, it could be done with the existing 1.6L, but you would have a vehicle that can't work as a daily driver, and without a legacy to live up to, I just don't see much interest.  That's how I would approach it anyway.

 

 

And a quick google search shows lots of upgrade kits already there for the ST, which is an excellent platform to start with. 

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Would be a waste of money/resources on a car that is not selling great with low gas prices.

 

ST will be enough....

The low gas prices are a US thing, though...Europe still has high gas prices, that's where cars like the Fiesta and Focus hot hatch versions are popular..the ST and RS would be just low volume novelties in the US.

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