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Cadillac is getting ready to launch the new XT5 and it is only the beginning a new crossover offensive from the luxury brand. Speaking to Automotive News, Cadillac president Johan de Nysschen said a variation of the XT5's platform will be used for a new three-row crossover in the near future.

 

"It's one of the benefits of having this very flexible architecture. We can expand it, make it longer and wider. That gives us the ability to develop the car very quickly, as opposed to starting from scratch," said de Nysschen.

 

Despite some outlets reporting that Cadillac has begun testing the new crossover, de Nysschen said this project only began sometime last year.

 

"It's not running yet. "It is a program request that we initiated with the engineers only last year. They are working at remarkable, record-breaking speed to get us the car."

 

This platform is expected to be found under the next-generation Buick Enclave and Chevrolet Traverse, due next year.

 

de Nysschen also hinted that the XT5 in the U.S. could get the turbo 2.0L as an option.

 

I actually think we would do well to consider that for the U.S.," said de Nysschen.

 

At the moment, the Chinese market XT5 will only get turbo 2.0L. This is due to the Chinese government taxing vehicles based on engine displacement - higher displacement engines get higher taxes and vice versa.

 

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Interesting, this will for sure drive some debates and I bet SMK will side step the GLC with a 4 banger and still push his crazy everything must have a V8 or V12 engine.

 

Be interesting to see how they perform with a turbo 4 banger in such a large auto.

 

Tax's on displacement is stupid. just stupid.

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Interesting, this will for sure drive some debates and I bet SMK will side step the GLC with a 4 banger and still push his crazy everything must have a V8 or V12 engine.

 

Be interesting to see how they perform with a turbo 4 banger in such a large auto.

 

Tax's on displacement is stupid. just stupid.

 

Keep in mind China is trying to reduce emissions and pollution. The displacement tax is only one part of it to make buyers consider going with a more fuel efficent vehicle.

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A 4 cylinder in the XT5 makes total sense.  Lincoln has a turbo 4, Lexus probably will soon in the RX.  If the CT6 and CTS which are both more expensive than XT5 and more geared to performance than XT5, then I don't see why the XT5 wouldn't have the same engine.   Plus the 2.0T has a better torque curve than the 3.6 V6, and most of these crossover buyers don't care about the engine, they might prefer a 4-cylinder to get better gas mileage.

 

The GLC 4-cylinder makes sense since the GLC is a small vehicle.  The GLC is the size of an ATS, the turbo 4 is adequate for the size vehicle and type of buyer.  There is an AMG GLC43 with a 362 hp V6 and 0-60 time of 4.8 seconds.  That probably beats any small crossover other than the Macan Turbo which is like $80,000.

 

There have also been spy photos of them testing a GLC63 with a 500 hp V8.  Not sure why you'd want a 500 hp V8 in a compact crossover, but they'll build it, and they'll destroy the X3, Q5 and Porsche Macan.

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As far as XT7 goes, (which reminds me of Suzuki XL7) I guess this means no alpha or omega platform crossover.  Cadillac just gets a fancier version of the Buick Enclave, to go with their fancy Acadia, and no doubt the new Equinox will shrink in size to D2xx and spawn a Cadillac XT3.  

 

And as DeNysschen says "we can do it really quickly, rather than starting from scratch."  PR spin for badge jobs are quicker and cheaper to put out than building a Cadillac crossover on a Cadillac platform.

 

How does Cadillac go against BMW, Mercedes-AMG, Jaguar, SVR Land Rovers, Porsche and Maserati SUVs with FWD V6 product? Any credibility gained by the ATS-V and CTS-V sort of goes out the window then the crossover side of the stable lacks performance.

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As far as XT7 goes, (which reminds me of Suzuki XL7) I guess this means no alpha or omega platform crossover.  Cadillac just gets a fancier version of the Buick Enclave, to go with their fancy Acadia, and no doubt the new Equinox will shrink in size to D2xx and spawn a Cadillac XT3.  

 

And as DeNysschen says "we can do it really quickly, rather than starting from scratch."  PR spin for badge jobs are quicker and cheaper to put out than building a Cadillac crossover on a Cadillac platform.

 

How does Cadillac go against BMW, Mercedes-AMG, Jaguar, SVR Land Rovers, Porsche and Maserati SUVs with FWD V6 product? Any credibility gained by the ATS-V and CTS-V sort of goes out the window then the crossover side of the stable lacks performance.

 

You say lacks performance and yet no one knows their road map for the XT and what the V badge might bring to the XT series. 

 

I see no reason for not having a Sport edition and a V edition of the XT or Escalade models.

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

 

WOW, You truly make an ASSumption of the FWD means FWD weight bias. I have not seen anything that would say you are right or wrong, but with all the FWD Appliances MB makes, then you have to admit that they are all FWD weight Bias and no better than Lexus/ Lincoln appliance fighters.

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2.0 i think would be an ok engine choice in certain trims.  3.0tt should be in here eventually if they want cred

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As far as XT7 goes, (which reminds me of Suzuki XL7) I guess this means no alpha or omega platform crossover.  Cadillac just gets a fancier version of the Buick Enclave, to go with their fancy Acadia, and no doubt the new Equinox will shrink in size to D2xx and spawn a Cadillac XT3.  

 

And as DeNysschen says "we can do it really quickly, rather than starting from scratch."  PR spin for badge jobs are quicker and cheaper to put out than building a Cadillac crossover on a Cadillac platform.

 

How does Cadillac go against BMW, Mercedes-AMG, Jaguar, SVR Land Rovers, Porsche and Maserati SUVs with FWD V6 product? Any credibility gained by the ATS-V and CTS-V sort of goes out the window then the crossover side of the stable lacks performance.

 

Are we really going to start arguing about how front-wheel drive is the greatest evil in luxury cars again?

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

Who the hell needs to compete with niche vehicles like the C63 and X5 M? Seriously? Why worry about the 0.5% volume? I love how you have to continually try to compare anything Cadillac does to the most expensive examples from the German competition, when that is just a fallacy argument.

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

Who the hell needs to compete with niche vehicles like the C63 and X5 M? Seriously? Why worry about the 0.5% volume? I love how you have to continually try to compare anything Cadillac does to the most expensive examples from the German competition, when that is just a fallacy argument.

 

So why is there an ATS-V or CTS-V, those are .5% volume cars.  Seeing as crossovers have over taken sedans in sales, there is not more volume in the crossover market than there is in the sedan market.   Since BMW built their image on the M3 and M5, while Cadillac sold front wheel drive boats, one brand soared and the other sank.  Same thing will happen with crossovers.  The luxury crossovers with the prestige will draw appeal, people will buy the better performing vehicle as well.  

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

Who the hell needs to compete with niche vehicles like the C63 and X5 M? Seriously? Why worry about the 0.5% volume? I love how you have to continually try to compare anything Cadillac does to the most expensive examples from the German competition, when that is just a fallacy argument.

 

So why is there an ATS-V or CTS-V, those are .5% volume cars.  Seeing as crossovers have over taken sedans in sales, there is not more volume in the crossover market than there is in the sedan market.   Since BMW built their image on the M3 and M5, while Cadillac sold front wheel drive boats, one brand soared and the other sank.  Same thing will happen with crossovers.  The luxury crossovers with the prestige will draw appeal, people will buy the better performing vehicle as well.  

 

The presence of the V series is not the point. The point is that you ALWAYS try to compare whatever Cadillac offers to some low volume, sells 500 a year, Mercedes Benz when the argument does not apply. What exactly are you not getting? This "appeal" nonsense you keep bringing up is all fluff. Let me show you why. Here is a list of the best selling luxury cars in 2014 and 2015. Notice the CUVs on there? Notice number one on that list? They have not ONE halo CUV or SUV (do not try to count the LX because you know that is a joke) that you claim is the big draw for customers. The top three out of six are all CUVs from companies without this big draw you speak of. So, we can only deduce two things out of this. Either it is a fluke as far as these numbers goes, or that you don't know what you are talking about here. It's that simple so stop making baseless and unrelated comparison to fluff up your favorite brand. It's just old man.

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

Who the hell needs to compete with niche vehicles like the C63 and X5 M? Seriously? Why worry about the 0.5% volume? I love how you have to continually try to compare anything Cadillac does to the most expensive examples from the German competition, when that is just a fallacy argument.

 

So why is there an ATS-V or CTS-V, those are .5% volume cars.  Seeing as crossovers have over taken sedans in sales, there is not more volume in the crossover market than there is in the sedan market.   Since BMW built their image on the M3 and M5, while Cadillac sold front wheel drive boats, one brand soared and the other sank.  Same thing will happen with crossovers.  The luxury crossovers with the prestige will draw appeal, people will buy the better performing vehicle as well.  

 

 

You have a serious issue confusing correlation and causation.   People will buy the better performing vehicle when there is no cost differential, but any luxury CUV that can get to 60 in under 8 seconds will be fine. 8 seconds is about the time it takes a 1996 Roadmaster Sedan to get to 60 and that is beyond plenty for the typical buyer.  Faster than that and most buyers become unwilling to pay more to go faster.  Yes there is a subset like you who will, but get inside of that 8 second range and people start to become more concerned with MPG than with acceleration. 

 

Cadillac's problems in the 80's had virtually nothing to do with how sporty or not their cars were and everything to do with engine reliability issues. They were selling that 4100 boat anchor that ate intake gaskets, the 350 diesels, and the 8-6-4, but their sales volume was huge so they pissed off a lot more people who went and tried those expensive yet cheap feeling BMWs for the first time.  Had GM not made those powertrain flubs, BMW might still be an obscure Euro brand like Volvo these days. Even for as bad as those Cadillac engines were, and the general slowness of the other GM cars, I still see far more of them from that era rolling around today than Germans of the same age.

 

Those old BMWs, Benzes, and Audis were terrible terrible back then.  They'd handle well (at least the BMW did), but their build quality was extremely sub-par.  There is absolutely nothing "luxury" about a BMW 635 aside from its original price tag.  Take away the handling and the badge and it might as well be an Accord coupe on the inside.  

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Even the lowly Toronado had a better built dash with nicer materials  and more advancements than the 6-series.... 

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Digital dash, automatic temperature control, automatic head lamps, leather wrapped steering wheel with aluminum spokes, no exposed screw heads on the dash, no matte black plastic anywhere....

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

Who the hell needs to compete with niche vehicles like the C63 and X5 M? Seriously? Why worry about the 0.5% volume? I love how you have to continually try to compare anything Cadillac does to the most expensive examples from the German competition, when that is just a fallacy argument.

 

So why is there an ATS-V or CTS-V, those are .5% volume cars.  Seeing as crossovers have over taken sedans in sales, there is not more volume in the crossover market than there is in the sedan market.   Since BMW built their image on the M3 and M5, while Cadillac sold front wheel drive boats, one brand soared and the other sank.  Same thing will happen with crossovers.  The luxury crossovers with the prestige will draw appeal, people will buy the better performing vehicle as well.  

 

 

You have a serious issue confusing correlation and causation.   People will buy the better performing vehicle when there is no cost differential, but any luxury CUV that can get to 60 in under 8 seconds will be fine. 8 seconds is about the time it takes a 1996 Roadmaster Sedan to get to 60 and that is beyond plenty for the typical buyer.  Faster than that and most buyers become unwilling to pay more to go faster.  Yes there is a subset like you who will, but get inside of that 8 second range and people start to become more concerned with MPG than with acceleration. 

 

Cadillac's problems in the 80's had virtually nothing to do with how sporty or not their cars were and everything to do with engine reliability issues. They were selling that 4100 boat anchor that ate intake gaskets, the 350 diesels, and the 8-6-4, but their sales volume was huge so they pissed off a lot more people who went and tried those expensive yet cheap feeling BMWs for the first time.  Had GM not made those powertrain flubs, BMW might still be an obscure Euro brand like Volvo these days. Even for as bad as those Cadillac engines were, and the general slowness of the other GM cars, I still see far more of them from that era rolling around today than Germans of the same age.

 

Those old BMWs, Benzes, and Audis were terrible terrible back then.  They'd handle well (at least the BMW did), but their build quality was extremely sub-par.  There is absolutely nothing "luxury" about a BMW 635 aside from its original price tag.  Take away the handling and the badge and it might as well be an Accord coupe on the inside.  

1983_BMW_635CSi_For_Sale_Interior_resize

 

1982-Honda-Accord-Interior-626x382.jpg

 

 

Even the lowly Toronado had a better built dash with nicer materials  and more advancements than the 6-series.... 

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Digital dash, automatic temperature control, automatic head lamps, leather wrapped steering wheel with aluminum spokes, no exposed screw heads on the dash, no matte black plastic anywhere....

 

Well said. How quickly some forget how absolutely crappy most German cars were back then when they try to bring up things like appeal and heritage.

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>>...people will buy the better performing vehicle…<<

 

So you're predicting the CT6 will outsell the e-class? Interesting.

E43 will smoke that CT6 3.0TT all day long and twice on Sunday.   Has more luxury and more autonomous drive features too.

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

Who the hell needs to compete with niche vehicles like the C63 and X5 M? Seriously? Why worry about the 0.5% volume? I love how you have to continually try to compare anything Cadillac does to the most expensive examples from the German competition, when that is just a fallacy argument.

 

I think it is more for a prestige thing than actually needing those vehicles. They are for MB to say they compete with anything and EVERYTHING from any automaker out there and they will build the fastest of them all(and they pretty much do). Only BMW or Audi can even compete with their lineup. Then they throw AMGs out in pretty much everything except their work vans! Actually, now that they have a GLC63 on its way I think that is an AMG motor in everything. 

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Funny that GM makes a Corvette Z06, a Camaro ZL1, a CTS-V, Ford makes a GT350, Dodge a Hellcat Charger, and SRT Grand Cherokee, etc.   There must be some reason they do that.  

 

Assume the CTS-V has a 10% take rate, that is 2,000 CTS-V's a year.  That isn't very high volume, yet they build it because they want it for marketing purposes, they want all the magazines to write about it, etc.  I bet if there was an XT5-V they could sell more than 2,000 a year.

 

Mark my words, the performance crossover market will grow, because the high dollar spenders will want the most powerful or fastest thing, just like the high dollar spenders do with sedans and sports cars. 

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Maybe on the coupe it was 27%, but no way nearly 1 out of 3 of 2nd Gen CTS on the road are V-series

 

But if it was 27%, then look at all the market Cadillac is missing by not having performance crossovers.  27% of SRX sales would be about 25,000 cars a year.  

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Will there be an LT4 V8 in the XT5 to compete with the GLE63 and X5 M?   I'd guess no V8 fits in he C1xx platform, maybe they can get the XTS V-sport engine in there, that is as good as it gets, and you still have FWD handling and FWD weight bias.

 

You have a Grand Cherokee SRT with 475 hp, Levante with 424 hp, Range Rover SVR with 550 hp, GLE63 with 577 hp, X5 M with 560 hp, Cayenne Turbo S with 570 hp, Jaguar F-pace only has 380 hp, but you know they'll drop a V8 in there eventually.  There is a wave of performance crossovers out there, probably more coming.  Cadillac isn't in this arena, they are basically a Lexus-Lincoln fighter in the $40-50k range.

Who the hell needs to compete with niche vehicles like the C63 and X5 M? Seriously? Why worry about the 0.5% volume? I love how you have to continually try to compare anything Cadillac does to the most expensive examples from the German competition, when that is just a fallacy argument.

 

I think it is more for a prestige thing than actually needing those vehicles. They are for MB to say they compete with anything and EVERYTHING from any automaker out there and they will build the fastest of them all(and they pretty much do). Only BMW or Audi can even compete with their lineup. Then they throw AMGs out in pretty much everything except their work vans! Actually, now that they have a GLC63 on its way I think that is an AMG motor in everything. 

 

You're missing my bigger point to him. He is trying to overemphasize these niche low volume brands to convince people that it leads to more sales on lower end cars and CUVs. I provided a link showing the top luxury sellers and half of those have none of the halo type vehicles that he thinks is so important to one's success. Lexus has been succeeding for decades without one. Acura as well (although they have their halo NSX back). It's a fallacy argument when you see that one fact alone. That has been my one and only point here.

Funny that GM makes a Corvette Z06, a Camaro ZL1, a CTS-V, Ford makes a GT350, Dodge a Hellcat Charger, and SRT Grand Cherokee, etc.   There must be some reason they do that.  

 

Assume the CTS-V has a 10% take rate, that is 2,000 CTS-V's a year.  That isn't very high volume, yet they build it because they want it for marketing purposes, they want all the magazines to write about it, etc.  I bet if there was an XT5-V they could sell more than 2,000 a year.

 

Mark my words, the performance crossover market will grow, because the high dollar spenders will want the most powerful or fastest thing, just like the high dollar spenders do with sedans and sports cars. 

So just ignore the facts that don't support your argument? Got it.  :banghead:

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Maybe on the coupe it was 27%, but no way nearly 1 out of 3 of 2nd Gen CTS on the road are V-series

 

But if it was 27%, then look at all the market Cadillac is missing by not having performance crossovers.  27% of SRX sales would be about 25,000 cars a year.  

Again. Look at the link I posted. Several those cars at the top are from companies with little to no representation in the halo car world. Point being, companies like Lexus have succeeded despite your assumption that luxury makes need these super expensive and low volume cars (their brief experiment with the LF-A aside). There is not one right formula and that is what you cannot seem to get through your head.

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      Source: GM Authority
    • By dfelt
      Howdy all, took my Escalade in for routine service, got an XT5 as a loaner for the day and stopped to check out the two XT4's they had sitting by the service center.
      First impression, WOW, this is actually nicer looking than the 2018 XT5 I have as a loaner. XT5 needs the interior of the XT4 as it shows it is dated. Sorry for the fuzzy pictures, my screen is cracked and I did not realize how fuzzy some of the pics are.
      First sat in the front passenger side, have about 3 inches above my 6'6" 300lb body, plenty of leg room, very comfy.

      Next I did the David test, jumped out and got in the back seat to see how I fit. Very hard doing a selfie, legs have to straddle the seat, no knee room, but then I expected that. Head room was about an inch or so, tight but doable for short trips. Have to bend forward to watch the head, otherwise people over 6' will smack their head getting in and out. Will say that I really like the Kona interior with Black and wood accents. Very nice.


      I have to say that I liked the rear heated seats and USB port.

      From the back seat, pretty easy to see the front dash. Love the buttons plus the touch screen in this CUV.

      Went around to the drivers side, have to say very comfy. Probably one of the best seat setups yet for Cadillac.

      This XT4 is the Sport addition, had the white tail lights that I really like. But found one other thing and I have to say, I did not think it would be any big deal till I tried it and OMG, I want it on my next auto.

      As you can see here in the seat adjustments, the massage seat. WOW, talk about awesome along with a very adjustable lumbar support and the multi-positional seat adjustments. Massage is worth it.
      So then I took a look under the Hood, Turbo is the engine as we all knew, tight package, but clean in the layout for AWD / FWD bias.

      I will say this auto is sharp looking and way better in person than in pictures.

      Was walking around it and decided to pop open the gas cap, discovered a surprise that I think Cadillac is hiding.
      What do you see here?

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      Give up? Well, around the gas filler is a rubber boot. Most people would not think anything about it, but the engineer in me wondered why the weird C to the left. Pressing in revealed to the feel a rectangle top to bottom plastic outline. Pulling the boot up a little to look under that rubber is what appears to be I think a socket to hold a Plugin port for a Hybrid. Think about this, that opening is much wider than it needs to be just for Gas fueling only and why would you want a port up on the drivers side front fender. It just makes sense to have both the charging port and gas port under one lid.
      I realize I could be totally wrong on this, but it does have me thinking about why a tall Rectangular plastic houseing on the left side of the gas filler hole and the width of this panel. Plugin Hybrid, EV, I do wonder! 🤔
      There was a White Premium Luxury with the Sky roof and it was nice, but I do not like the red tail lights after seeing the white ones. Rims on the Premium I do not like as much as the Sport rims too.


      This Metallic Black XT4 Sport edition is really nice.

      Seeing it next to my 2018 XT5 Loaner, Cadillac has a home run on their hands and it should sell very well. I cannot see how they will get the XT4 lights onto the XT5 without some body metal changes, but then they might just consider a more radical update to get it inline as if the XT6 comes with them, then the XT5 will be the odd duck out. Yet I know some say that difference might not be a bad thing.
      One thing I do know is that Cadillac has delivered a luxury compact CUV to the market and I am excited to see how it sells.
      I will also state this here, @balthazar is right on about Cadillac DOES NOT need an XT3 below this for the market. Leave that to Chevrolet and Buick. Cadillac should focus on their CT4 and XT4 Auto's and above in standard, V-Sport, V editions and have the Halo auto and coupes. That is perfect for them. Plus, lets take the Escalade to the V-Sport and V edition level. They really need to do this pronto.
    • By dfelt
      What does everyone make of this photo?

      Jalopnik story
      According to Jalopnik, an anonymous tipster emailed in photo's of a key fob and clearly proved it is from Cadillac by flipping the fob over to show the Cadillac logo on the back. The interesting thing is that the new leader of Cadillac has been busy rolling back all of the former leaders car focused stuff and refocusing on CUVs. Yet when asked about a new Halo auto and if the mid-engine corvette could be used as a base, the response was we will have something much more interesting and special for Cadillac.
      Now with that said, we get pictures of this fob which would show a frunk and trunk plus a retractable roof. Is it possible that Cadillac could go AWD EV Halo on us?
      What do you all think is going on here? Is it the fob to an EV Halo car, Hybrid Halo car, Mid-Engine ICE Halo?
       
    • By William Maley
      Cadillac was one of the first brands to launch a subscription service. Called Book, the service allowed users to access Cadillac's lineup including the Escalade and CTS-V for a monthly fee. But only a year after it launched the program, General Motors is pulling the plug.
      The Wall Street Journal broke the news this afternoon, learning from sources that the company will end operations of Book by the end of the year. Subscribers will have a 30-day window from the time they notified to turn in their vehicles. A GM spokesman confirmed the closure.
      According to sources, certain aspects of Book proved to be quite costly. A key example was some of the back-end technology used to support the service "made some customer-service functions tedious and time-consuming, adding costs for the company." This move comes a few days after GM announced that it would be offering voluntary buyouts to 18,000 salaried workers.
      Analysts say car subscriptions bring a number of headaches with trying to deal with the logistics of keeping vehicles repaired, cleaned, and delivering them within a short time frame.
      “Some of these services will even transfer your stuff from car to car, from your phone charger to your kid’s stroller. The problems posed in offering that level of service at scale are vast,” said Ivan Drury, senior analyst with Edmunds.com.
      The GM spokesman told the Wall Street Journal that the program could restart in the future.
      “We are hitting the pause button for a brief time to make some tweaks to Book [by Cadillac] based on our learnings,” he said.
      Cadillac isn't the only brand that is rethinking the whole subscription model. Hyundai closed down their program which offered Ioniq Electrics only in California, though the brand is planning a revamped version to appear in the future. Lincoln is looking into making changes to their service which offers off-lease vehicles.
      Source: Wall Street Journal (Subscription Required)
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