Jump to content

Recommended Posts

The Escalade has a massive grille up front yet somehow that's a lovable feature.

 

I like the Escalade.

 

And I like this Navigator.

 

One of them has a reputation, and the other doesn't. Oh well.

 

As it was with the Continental - their key will be to deliver as much styling as possible from the concept.

 

One touch I would really hope does make it is actually the headrests of the seats. They remind me of those old luxury car interiors. It might as well be like the Esclade a brick with couch like seats. 

 

And I think gear buttons have finally been implemented nicely.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

People who think I hate Lincoln, or Ford, are missing the bigger picture.

I hate half-assed efforts. Hence, I slagged Buick for not building the Avista (update: a certain GM fan website is now saying it may not be dead after all. Stay tuned).

This is a half-assed effort styling-wise, perhaps engineering-wise. It follows in the wake of a previous half-assed effort which was desperately hyped even as a rival automaker called them out publicly on the styling. Now it's being called out by Automobile's emeritus staffer (a stylist himself), and folks still get mad at me for pointing it out.

Whatever gets you through the night, I guess

 

Except that same writer isn't consistent.

 

I've read every single one of his commentaries.

 

The VOLVO S90... also has black cladding over its front pillars and you see the gap between the carrier rail of the roof and the front pillar. Many Mercedes have it the S-Class does. So many instances of ridiculousness.

 

The guy is joke, his reports are incredibly inconsistent and I would question his objectivity every time

 

But hey - a failed stylist makes for a great journalist. What do I know? Half-assed styling lead to a journalist job. And you know what they say about the press...

 

But - this Navigator has many cues that are on other vehicles. But it's a concept still. And as for the Continental. That's immaterial to this vehicle. Everyone knows this is going to be on the new platform that underpins the F150. It's going have aluminum body panels - it was already announced for the Expedition and the Navigator. 

 

Unless aluminum is somehow a requirement for being a luxury vehicle. Because the Escalade is porker itself. And the highest pedigree luxury vehicles are porkers too. All this lightweight stuff doesn't apply to dinosaurs. It does to sport sedans. But not dinosaurs. 

  • Upvote 2
  • Downvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

LOL@"a failed stylist makes for a great journalist."

Them's some sour grapes, man

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You know, there is a difference in using styling elements, and using styling elements EFFECTIVELY.

Automobile called the Genesis New York concept the best of show, in large part because it took the elements the Navigator botched and used them effectively. Genesis, you may recall, is one of the new brands Lincoln is going to have to deal with as it finds itself.

And that process just got a WHOLE lot harder.

Edited by El Kabong
  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok, changing direction a bit... has anyone heard what the body panels on this thing are made of?

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok, changing direction a bit... has anyone heard what the body panels on this thing are made of?

Probably aluminum....who knows, the concept may be made of styrofoam or toilet paper.   But the production vehicle will probably be aluminium (isn't the Ford plan for all full size trucks and truck-based SUVs (Expedition, Navigator) to be mostly aluminum)? 

Edited by Cubical-aka-Moltar
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Navigator is going aluminum.

 

An easily recycled material! Just like every Navigator design thus far!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Navigator is going aluminum.

 

An easily recycled material! Just like every Navigator design thus far!

 

 

I wonder if switching to Aluminum will allow them to drop down to the steel-body Escalade in weight.

 

post-51-0-33030300-1459444129_thumb.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's a clean design and wears the new Lincoln face well, IMO. I assume the production model will look similar but with real doors.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




  • Social Stream

  • Similar Content

    • By Drew Dowdell
      FORD MOTOR COMPANY FOURTH QUARTER 2019 U.S. SALES

       

       

       

      2019

      Q4

       

       

      2018

      % Cha nge

      Year-to-Date

      2019               2018

      % Cha nge

      SALES BY BRAND

      Ford

      568,507

      581,386

      -2.2

      2,310,494

      2,393,731

      -3.5

      Lincoln

      33,355

      28,307

      17.8

      112,204

      103,587

      8.3

      Total vehicles

      601,862

      609,693

      -1.3

      2,422,698

      2,497,318

      -3.0

      SALES BY TYPE

      Cars

       

       

      63,400

       

       

      107,491

       

       

      -41.0

       

       

      349,091

       

       

      486,024

       

       

      -28.2

      SUVs

      208,387

      217,343

      -4.1

      830,471

      872,215

      -4.8

      Trucks

      330,075

      284,859

      15.9

      1,243,136

      1,139,079

      9.1

      Total vehicles                                             601,862       609,693          -1.3             2,422,698      2,497,318          -3.0

      FORD BRAND

      Fiesta

       

       

      7,315

       

       

      15,212

       

       

      -51.9

       

       

      60,148

       

       

      51,730

       

       

      16.3

      Focus

      0

      13,078

      N/A

      12,480

      113,345

      -89.0

      C-MAX

      0

      213

      N/A

      38

      6,683

      -99.4

      Fusion

      32,137

      48,636

      -33.9

      166,045

      173,600

      -4.4

      Taurus

      769

      6,988

      -89.0

      9,924

      28,706

      -65.4

      Police Interceptor Sedan

      88

      1,762

      -95.0

      3,427

      7,382

      -53.6

      GT

      42

      24

      75.0

      229

      126

      81.7

      Mustang

      17,124

      14,223

      20.4

      72,489

      75,842

      -4.4

      Ford Cars

      57,475

      100,136

      -42.6

      324,780

      457,414

      -29.0

      EcoSport

      14,051

      16,038

      -12.4

      64,708

      54,348

      19.1

      Escape

      47,587

      62,178

      -23.5

      241,388

      272,228

      -11.3

      Edge

      37,621

      35,184

      6.9

      138,515

      134,122

      3.3

      Flex

      6,147

      4,150

      48.1

      24,484

      20,308

      20.6

      Explorer

      48,083

      56,316

      -14.6

      168,309

      227,732

      -26.1

      Police Interceptor Utility

      3,201

      8,385

      -61.8

      18,752

      33,839

      -44.6

      Expedition

      24,267

      14,140

      71.6

      86,422

      54,661

      58.1

      Ford SUVs

      180,957

      196,391

      -7.9

      742,578

      797,238

      -6.9

      F-Series

      233,952

      230,312

      1.6

      896,526

      909,330

      -1.4

      Ranger

      33,059

      0

      N/A

      89,571

      0

      N/A

      E-Series

      12,837

      11,387

      12.7

      45,063

      47,936

      -6.0

      Transit

      36,885

      31,331

      17.7

      153,868

      137,794

      11.7

      Transit Connect

      10,208

      8,705

      17.3

      41,598

      31,923

      30.3

      Heavy trucks

      3,134

      3,124

      0.3

      16,510

      12,096

      36.5

      Ford Trucks

      330,075

      284,859

      15.9

      1,243,136

      1,139,079

      9.1

      Ford Brand

      568,507

      581,386

      -2.2

      2,310,494

      2,393,731

      -3.5

      LINCOLN BRAND

      MKZ

       

       

      4,080

       

       

      4,931

       

       

      -17.3

       

       

      17,725

       

       

      19,852

       

       

      -10.7

      Continental

      1,845

      2,424

      -23.9

      6,586

      8,758

      -24.8

      Lincoln Cars

      5,925

      7,355

      -19.4

      24,311

      28,610

      -15.0

      Corsair/MKC

      7,549

      6,971

      8.3

      25,815

      26,241

      -1.6

      Nautilus/MKX

      7,727

      8,687

      -11.1

      31,711

      28,573

      11.0

      MKT

      275

      540

      -49.1

      3,388

      2,324

      45.8

      Aviator

      6,424

      0

      N/A

      8,323

      0

      N/A

      Navigator

      5,455

      4,754

      14.7

      18,656

      17,839

      4.6

      Lincoln SUVs

      27,430

      20,952

      30.9

      87,893

      74,977

      17.2

      Lincoln Brand

      33,355

      28,307

      17.8

      112,204

      103,587

      8.3

    • By Drew Dowdell
      The first product to come from Ford's investment into startup automaker Rivian will likely be a Lincoln SUV due to arrive sometime in 2022.  The vehicle will be all-wheel drive and compete against Rivian's own R1S which is priced at $72,500.  The models will share Rivian's skateboard platform, a design that combines the motors, batteries, controls and suspension into a single unit that the body can be built around.  
      The Rivian R1S is a three-row EV crossover with a range of up to 410 miles and will be built in Normal Illinois at a former Mitsubishi plant. It is expected to go into production sometime in 2021.
      There will also be a compact Lincoln EV crossover coming for 2021 that could be built on the same platform that the Ford Mustang Mach-E rides on. 
      EV sales have been tepid so far in the US, but Lincoln is banking on the EVs to be bigger sellers in the Chinese market. 

      View full article
    • By Drew Dowdell
      The first product to come from Ford's investment into startup automaker Rivian will likely be a Lincoln SUV due to arrive sometime in 2022.  The vehicle will be all-wheel drive and compete against Rivian's own R1S which is priced at $72,500.  The models will share Rivian's skateboard platform, a design that combines the motors, batteries, controls and suspension into a single unit that the body can be built around.  
      The Rivian R1S is a three-row EV crossover with a range of up to 410 miles and will be built in Normal Illinois at a former Mitsubishi plant. It is expected to go into production sometime in 2021.
      There will also be a compact Lincoln EV crossover coming for 2021 that could be built on the same platform that the Ford Mustang Mach-E rides on. 
      EV sales have been tepid so far in the US, but Lincoln is banking on the EVs to be bigger sellers in the Chinese market. 
    • By Drew Dowdell
      Los Angeles - At the Los Angeles Auto Show, Lincoln introduced the Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring, a plug-in hybrid trim.  Based on the standard Corsair, the Grand Touring's powertrain consists of a 2.5-liter Atkinson-cycle four-cylinder gas engine and a permanent magnet synchronous motor.  The combined output based on Lincoln's calculations would be roughly 266 horsepower.  Electric All-wheel drive powers the rear wheels.  EV range is targeted at 25 miles EPA. 
      Power is conveyed through a PowerSplit electric continuously variable transmission with two electric motors working together to provide very smooth acceleration. 
      In addition to the five modes normally available to Corsair drivers, two additional modes are available on the Grand Touring;  Preserve EV mode recharges and saves battery power for later, the engine and motor work continuously to deliver full power.  The battery can be recharged up to 75 percent while in this mode. Pure EV mode is designed to keep the vehicle in all-electric mode as much as possible, only using the gasoline engine when the power demands exceed the electrical capabilities of the vehicle. 
      The Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring will be built in Louisville Kentucky and will go on sale summer of 2020. 

      View full article
    • By Drew Dowdell
      Los Angeles - At the Los Angeles Auto Show, Lincoln introduced the Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring, a plug-in hybrid trim.  Based on the standard Corsair, the Grand Touring's powertrain consists of a 2.5-liter Atkinson-cycle four-cylinder gas engine and a permanent magnet synchronous motor.  The combined output based on Lincoln's calculations would be roughly 266 horsepower.  Electric All-wheel drive powers the rear wheels.  EV range is targeted at 25 miles EPA. 
      Power is conveyed through a PowerSplit electric continuously variable transmission with two electric motors working together to provide very smooth acceleration. 
      In addition to the five modes normally available to Corsair drivers, two additional modes are available on the Grand Touring;  Preserve EV mode recharges and saves battery power for later, the engine and motor work continuously to deliver full power.  The battery can be recharged up to 75 percent while in this mode. Pure EV mode is designed to keep the vehicle in all-electric mode as much as possible, only using the gasoline engine when the power demands exceed the electrical capabilities of the vehicle. 
      The Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring will be built in Louisville Kentucky and will go on sale summer of 2020. 
  • Recent Status Updates

  • Reader Rides

About us

CheersandGears.com - Founded 2001

We ♥ Cars

Get in touch

Follow us

Recent tweets

facebook

×
×
  • Create New...