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Ford News: 2017 Ford F-150 to Get 10-Speed Automatic, Second-Generation 3.5L EcoBoost

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William Maley    391

2017 will be an important year for the Ford F-150 as the blue oval will be introducing the second-generation of the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 and a ten-speed automatic transmission.

 

The second-generation 3.5L EcoBoost is completely all-new with the block, heads, turbochargers, and other components changed. A key item Ford points out with the 3.5 engine is that it features direct injection and port fuel injection - basically two injectors for each cylinder. In low-load situations, the engine uses only the port fuel injection as it is said to be more efficient. During heavy-load situations, both injection systems are used to provide maximum power.

 

Horsepower still stands at 365. Torque has increased from 420 to 450 pound-feet, making the 3.5L the one of the torquiest engines in a full-size, light-duty truck (GM's 6.2L V8 with 460 pound-feet rules the roost here). There is also a more potent version that will go into the Raptor with 450 horsepower.

 

The engine will be paired up with a new ten-speed automatic that is the result of a partnership with Ford and General Motors. The automatic is said to improve overall efficiency with eighth, ninth, and tenth gear all being overdrive and a reduction in friction.

 

Ford didn't talk about how much of an improvement the ten-speed would bring in terms of fuel economy numbers, so we'll be waiting for the official EPA numbers. The new 3.5L EcoBoost and ten-speed automatic will arrive later this fall.

 

Source: Ford

 

Press Release is on Page 2






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FordCosworth    128

The torque increase is great and more important than a HP increase. But even a small HP bump would have been nice.

 

I do like the dual FI set up. A) its said to be more efficient at certain RPM loads. B) it will also help alleviate carbon build up that is known to accumulate on DI engines.

 

I wonder when the exactly this 2017 with its new gen 3.5L EB and class leading 10spd will be available?

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ccap41    1,161

^ Is it beating the ZL1 to the dealerships? I honestly do not know but I know they said it would be available a month or so ago.. 

 

I am a little disappointed w/ no hp bump but that's for no good reason as this is a truck and it's getting a 30tq increase. That's the most important part. I also hope that they chiseled out some of the ecoboost fuel economy situations. 

 

It is good to hear that they are mixing direct and port injection, for the same reason named above, coked up valves. 

 

I would eventually like to know where the efficiency gains will come from, 10spd vs 2nd gen 3.5EB. I'm curious how much efficiency will be had from the new more efficient with more ratios transmission and how much will be gained from the engine itself. Nice to see them both be put together at the same time. I would think this would yield pretty good overall gains being put together at the same time. 

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cp-the-nerd    426

"Torque has increased from 420 to 450 pound-feet, making the 3.5L the torquiest engine available in a full-size, light-duty truck."

 

The GM 6.2L V8 makes 460 lb-ft of torque and is primarily available on the GM light duty 1500 trucks. Is there some asterisk to that claim that I'm not aware of?

 

It's interesting Ford chose to go with a split port/direct injection system. I would have expected the added complexity and parts would outweigh the benefits, but they must have found something significantly advantageous in testing. I tend to like the idea of having port fuel injection even if merely for the fact that it cleans carbon deposits in the ports that DI engines have left untouched in a way that becomes additional maintenance long term.

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FordCosworth    128

"Torque has increased from 420 to 450 pound-feet, making the 3.5L the torquiest engine available in a full-size, light-duty truck."

 

The GM 6.2L V8 makes 460 lb-ft of torque and is primarily available on the GM light duty 1500 trucks. Is there some asterisk to that claim that I'm not aware of?

 

It's interesting Ford chose to go with a split port/direct injection system. I would have expected the added complexity and parts would outweigh the benefits, but they must have found something significantly advantageous in testing. I tend to like the idea of having port fuel injection even if merely for the fact that it cleans carbon deposits in the ports that DI engines have left untouched in a way that becomes additional maintenance long term.

 

 

Maybe its meant as not " peak torque ", but as in torquiest power spread. There the EB's ( 2.7 and 3.5 ) have shown to not be as peaky as the EcoTec3's

 

One must remember that the 6.2L is only available on some trims too.

 

EDIT

 

* best-in-class 450 lb.-ft. for a V6. *

 

I was reading the PR and can't find where it states " torquest engine in a full sized light duty truck

 

 

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2016/05/03/2017-ford-f150-more-torque-better-boost.html

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William Maley    391

"Torque has increased from 420 to 450 pound-feet, making the 3.5L the torquiest engine available in a full-size, light-duty truck."

 

The GM 6.2L V8 makes 460 lb-ft of torque and is primarily available on the GM light duty 1500 trucks. Is there some asterisk to that claim that I'm not aware of?

 

It's interesting Ford chose to go with a split port/direct injection system. I would have expected the added complexity and parts would outweigh the benefits, but they must have found something significantly advantageous in testing. I tend to like the idea of having port fuel injection even if merely for the fact that it cleans carbon deposits in the ports that DI engines have left untouched in a way that becomes additional maintenance long term.

Good point. I made a slight correction and added GM's 6.2 to the story.

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Suaviloquent    713

On no. please no more back and forth bickering....f***** dammit buy an American truck, any of them and be pleased how they dispatch anything foreign.

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balthazar    1,875

The dual-mode FI system sounds like it'll be an advantage.

 

I doubt the 10-spd is likely to EVER see 9th & 10th gear usage. My brother has a 6-spd (5th & 6th overdrive) and it almost never shifts to 6th. You have to be coasting on dead-level highway with a slight tailwind to get it in 6th. I'd like to take a spin in one of these 10-spd F-150s tho.

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surreal1272    670

The first volume-production 10-speed automatic transmission available to consumers from any automaker will deliver improved acceleration and performance

And will be available around the same time as the ZL1.

Just to clarify.

Still great news for Ford. The ten speed will be a hit for both Ford and GM.

Yeah I just saw that too. I didn't see the press release was on page 2. I guess they're taking a jab at the EcoDiesel V6.

Or it's just clever marketing since they don't have a mainstream V8 to compare to the 6.2L. Edited by surreal1272

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dfelt    1,771

But will it really be as fuel efficient as a natural V8? So far the forums do not show this for the turbo motors.

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ccap41    1,161

But will it really be as fuel efficient as a natural V8? So far the forums do not show this for the turbo motors.

The current 3.5 is more efficient than THEIR n/a v8. The GM 5.3 is a great motor that blends power and efficiency very well. No clue if this will be more efficient or not but even if it's equal the output difference is very significant.

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daves87rs    327

More interested to see how the 10 speed will do.....

 

 

Makes me wonder since FCA is screwing up the 9 speeds pretty well right now...

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Drew Dowdell    4,988

 

But will it really be as fuel efficient as a natural V8? So far the forums do not show this for the turbo motors.

The current 3.5 is more efficient than THEIR n/a v8. The GM 5.3 is a great motor that blends power and efficiency very well. No clue if this will be more efficient or not but even if it's equal the output difference is very significant.

 

 

The current 5.3 is also only paired with a 6-speed at the moment in most applications.  So that is another factor.

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ccap41    1,161

 

 

But will it really be as fuel efficient as a natural V8? So far the forums do not show this for the turbo motors.

The current 3.5 is more efficient than THEIR n/a v8. The GM 5.3 is a great motor that blends power and efficiency very well. No clue if this will be more efficient or not but even if it's equal the output difference is very significant.

 

 

The current 5.3 is also only paired with a 6-speed at the moment in most applications.  So that is another factor.

 

True, as is the current 3.5. I'm actually a HUGE fan of the 5.3. I actually think if I got to pick any truck engine to use daily(with money being a factor) it would be the 5.3 over either ecoboost and obviously the 6.2 will be a gas hog.. V8 burble still and good fuel economy, respectable hp/tq. I just like the combination a lot. If Ford would use some of the tech in their 5.0 they'd be onto something a little more. 

 

I'm just very eager to read about a lot of the new product coming out; CT6, XT5, 10spd, Raptors, ZL1s, Mach1??? 

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Drew Dowdell    4,988

 

 

 

But will it really be as fuel efficient as a natural V8? So far the forums do not show this for the turbo motors.

The current 3.5 is more efficient than THEIR n/a v8. The GM 5.3 is a great motor that blends power and efficiency very well. No clue if this will be more efficient or not but even if it's equal the output difference is very significant.

 

 

The current 5.3 is also only paired with a 6-speed at the moment in most applications.  So that is another factor.

 

True, as is the current 3.5. I'm actually a HUGE fan of the 5.3. I actually think if I got to pick any truck engine to use daily(with money being a factor) it would be the 5.3 over either ecoboost and obviously the 6.2 will be a gas hog.. V8 burble still and good fuel economy, respectable hp/tq. I just like the combination a lot. If Ford would use some of the tech in their 5.0 they'd be onto something a little more. 

 

I'm just very eager to read about a lot of the new product coming out; CT6, XT5, 10spd, Raptors, ZL1s, Mach1??? 

 

 

I'm just talking about the eventual comparisons of the new 3.5 + 10speed to the 5.3 + 6speed. 

 

My own concern would be the Ecoboost's tendency to not meet EPA MPG specs in the real world where I can usually beat it with the 5.3. Just my own experience.

 

The 6.2+8speed is just about the same mpgs as the current 3.5EB. So not that much of a hog.

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ccap41    1,161

 

 

 

 

But will it really be as fuel efficient as a natural V8? So far the forums do not show this for the turbo motors.

The current 3.5 is more efficient than THEIR n/a v8. The GM 5.3 is a great motor that blends power and efficiency very well. No clue if this will be more efficient or not but even if it's equal the output difference is very significant.

 

 

The current 5.3 is also only paired with a 6-speed at the moment in most applications.  So that is another factor.

 

True, as is the current 3.5. I'm actually a HUGE fan of the 5.3. I actually think if I got to pick any truck engine to use daily(with money being a factor) it would be the 5.3 over either ecoboost and obviously the 6.2 will be a gas hog.. V8 burble still and good fuel economy, respectable hp/tq. I just like the combination a lot. If Ford would use some of the tech in their 5.0 they'd be onto something a little more. 

 

I'm just very eager to read about a lot of the new product coming out; CT6, XT5, 10spd, Raptors, ZL1s, Mach1??? 

 

 

I'm just talking about the eventual comparisons of the new 3.5 + 10speed to the 5.3 + 6speed. 

 

My own concern would be the Ecoboost's tendency to not meet EPA MPG specs in the real world where I can usually beat it with the 5.3. Just my own experience.

 

The 6.2+8speed is just about the same mpgs as the current 3.5EB. So not that much of a hog.

 

That was one thing I "addressed" as well in an earlier post. I hope this new motor addresses that issue as well. 

 

I would think the 5.3 would get the 8spd across the board for 2017 as it has been slowly moving through the lineup. You can get it now can't you? Only in like High Country or whatever trim though, right? 

 

Well I was factoring in purchase cost and fuel cost and at 1-2 mpg across the board or for the life of the truck that adds up when fuel eventually goes above $3/gallon again. 

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FordCosworth    128

 

 

 

 

But will it really be as fuel efficient as a natural V8? So far the forums do not show this for the turbo motors.

The current 3.5 is more efficient than THEIR n/a v8. The GM 5.3 is a great motor that blends power and efficiency very well. No clue if this will be more efficient or not but even if it's equal the output difference is very significant.

 

 

The current 5.3 is also only paired with a 6-speed at the moment in most applications.  So that is another factor.

 

True, as is the current 3.5. I'm actually a HUGE fan of the 5.3. I actually think if I got to pick any truck engine to use daily(with money being a factor) it would be the 5.3 over either ecoboost and obviously the 6.2 will be a gas hog.. V8 burble still and good fuel economy, respectable hp/tq. I just like the combination a lot. If Ford would use some of the tech in their 5.0 they'd be onto something a little more. 

 

I'm just very eager to read about a lot of the new product coming out; CT6, XT5, 10spd, Raptors, ZL1s, Mach1??? 

 

 

I'm just talking about the eventual comparisons of the new 3.5 + 10speed to the 5.3 + 6speed. 

 

My own concern would be the Ecoboost's tendency to not meet EPA MPG specs in the real world where I can usually beat it with the 5.3. Just my own experience.

 

The 6.2+8speed is just about the same mpgs as the current 3.5EB. So not that much of a hog.

 

 

 

Most comparisons of the 5.3L are against the 2.7L, not the 3.5L, where its been proven the 2.7L not only out performs at the pump, but is also notably quicker loaded and unloaded.

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Drew Dowdell    4,988

Most comparisons of the 5.3L are against the 2.7L, not the 3.5L, where its been proven the 2.7L not only out performs at the pump, but is also notably quicker loaded and unloaded.

 

I agree the 2.7 is the natural competition to the 5.3, but I disagree about the "proven" fuel economy.  The EPA numbers may look good, but that's not what most people consider "proven" in the real world. In fact, the exact opposite seems to be true

 

18.9 mpg Average?  Just about any Chevy pickup with the 5.3 can do that without a sweat.

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FordCosworth    128

 

Most comparisons of the 5.3L are against the 2.7L, not the 3.5L, where its been proven the 2.7L not only out performs at the pump, but is also notably quicker loaded and unloaded.

 

I agree the 2.7 is the natural competition to the 5.3, but I disagree about the "proven" fuel economy.  The EPA numbers may look good, but that's not what most people consider "proven" in the real world. In fact, the exact opposite seems to be true

 

18.9 mpg Average?  Just about any Chevy pickup with the 5.3 can do that without a sweat.

 

 

 

The EPA rates the four-wheel-drive 2015 F-150 with the 2.7-liter EcoBoost V-6 at 18/23 mpg, and when we put it through our Real MPG testing, we saw 17 mpg city, 22 mpg highway, and 19 mpg combined. We also did a far less scientific test while the trucks were loaded down with the mats and divided the miles driven by the gallons pumped. In that test, we got 16.8 mpg.

Then there’s Chevy’s solution. Recognizing that many truck buyers prefer V-8s regardless of power ratings, Chevy went through its 5.3-liter truck engine with a fine-toothed comb looking for efficiencies. Its piece-de-resistance is a cylinder deactivation system that turns it into a 2.7-liter V-4 under light loads. It’s a neat trick, but not as effective as Ford’s solution. The Chevy is EPA-rated at 16 mpg city, 22 mpg highway, and 18 mpg combined. In our Real MPG testing, it returned a disappointing 13 mpg city, 19 mpg highway, and 15 mpg combined. In our payload fuel economy test, though, it came within striking distance of the Ford at 16.4 mpg observed

 

REAL MPG, CITY/HWY/COMB Chevy 13/19/15 mpg  Ford 17/22/19 mpg

 

 

EPA CITY/HWY/COMB ECON Chevy 16/22/18 mpg  Ford 18/23/20 mpg

 

Real MPG is what M/T recorded ( unloaded ), the Ford avg 4 mpg better and was much closer to its EPA ratings than the Chevy

 

http://www.motortrend.com/news/comparison-2015-ford-f-150-vs-ram-1500-chevrolet-silverado/

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Drew Dowdell    4,988

I prefer the longer term tests... and my own experiences with both (as a conservative driver) show opposite results.  I can get 21 - 22 out of heavier Suburban 5.3 on the highway... and do that regularly.

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FordCosworth    128

I prefer the longer term tests... and my own experiences with both (as a conservative driver) show opposite results.  I can get 21 - 22 out of heavier Suburban 5.3 on the highway... and do that regularly.

 

 

And I prefer actual head to head comparisons that what " one claims ". 

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Drew Dowdell    4,988

 

I prefer the longer term tests... and my own experiences with both (as a conservative driver) show opposite results.  I can get 21 - 22 out of heavier Suburban 5.3 on the highway... and do that regularly.

 

 

And I prefer actual head to head comparisons that what " one claims ". 

 

 

Edmunds and Wards and Car and Driver and many posters on Ford150 got the same results, and I quote "Where's the Eco in Ecoboost?"

 

In fact all of my ecoboost drives have returned disappointing MPGs with the exception of the Fusion 2.0T. 

 

You and MT are the outier.

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      Horsepower @ RPM: 295 @ 6,400
      Torque @ RPM: 260 @ 4,000
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 18/25/21
      Curb Weight: 4,952 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Detroit, Michigan
      Base Price: $53,995
      As Tested Price: $60,675 (Includes $995 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      Signature Leather-Wrapped Interior Package - $4,995
      Summit California Edition - $995
      Skid Plate Group - $295
    • By William Maley
      With only 500 Ford GTs being built for its production, each one will be considered as a rare and special vehicle. But there will always be those who want something a bit more special. Ford has just the GT for you in the form of the 2018 GT '67 Heritage Edition.
      Paying homage to the 1967 Le Mans victory by the all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt, the '67 Heritage Edition is finished in the same red paint and white stripes, as well as the same no.1 that the winning GT40 wore. Other exterior items to take note of are the exposed carbon fiber package, 20-inch forged aluminum wheels, red brake calipers, and silver mirror caps. The interior comes with red accent stitching, anodized gray paddle shifters, exposed carbon fiber trim, and a serialized identification plaque.
      “In creating a worthy successor to the 2017 Heritage edition, we logically looked at our next historic Le Mans victory with the all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt. The 2018 Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition pays homage to that win, with a modern take on one of the most important vehicles in Ford’s storied history of racing,” said Dave Pericak, global director of Ford Performance.
      Ford says they will build a limited amount of the GT ’67 Heritage Edition.
      Source: Ford
      Press Release is on Page 2


      FORD PERFORMANCE TO OFFER TRIBUTE LIVERY OF HISTORIC 1967 LE MANS WINNER WITH 2018 FORD GT '67 HERITAGE EDITION
      Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition with unique red-and-white-stripe livery celebrates 1967 Le Mans-winning GT40 Mark IV race car driven by all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt   Ford GT ‘67 Heritage edition honoring historic No. 1 race car introduced for 2018 model year Limited-edition Ford GT features exclusive race-number graphics, plus unique interior colors, materials and appointments DEARBORN, Mich., Aug. 15, 2017 – The 2018 Ford GT will be available in a new limited-edition Heritage theme honoring the GT40 Mark IV race car driven to victory by the all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt at Le Mans in 1967. The car will feature unique interior and exterior color themes, and an exclusive wheel finish.
      “In creating a worthy successor to the 2017 Heritage edition, we logically looked at our next historic Le Mans victory with the all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt,” said Dave Pericak, global director Ford Performance. “The 2018 Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition pays homage to that win, with a modern take on one of the most important vehicles in Ford’s storied history of racing.”
      The Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition features a gloss-finish Race Red exterior with white stripes and exposed carbon package. The car sports Frozen White No. 1 hood and door graphics, and 20-inch one-piece forged aluminum wheels in silver satin clearcoat with black lug nuts. Red calipers and silver rearview mirror caps complete the look.
      The interior begins with new leather trimming for the carbon fiber seats, with red accent stitching, which carries over to the steering wheel. The seat belt webbing is now red and the paddle shifters are anodized gray. Satin dark stainless appliqués are used on the instrument panel, door register bezels and x-brace.
      Rounding out modifications to the ’67 Heritage edition car are a unique serialized identification plate, plus exposed matte carbon fiber door sills, air register pods and center console.
      “The first Heritage edition car was a huge success, honoring our history with a modern interpretation of the Le Mans winner,” said Garen Nicoghosian, exterior design manager for the car. “Continuing with a 2018 Ford GT based on the winning GT40 Mark IV race car was simply something we needed to do.”
      The Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition can be viewed at FordGT.com using the configuration tool. Limited quantities will be available for the 2018 model year.

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    • By William Maley
      With only 500 Ford GTs being built for its production, each one will be considered as a rare and special vehicle. But there will always be those who want something a bit more special. Ford has just the GT for you in the form of the 2018 GT '67 Heritage Edition.
      Paying homage to the 1967 Le Mans victory by the all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt, the '67 Heritage Edition is finished in the same red paint and white stripes, as well as the same no.1 that the winning GT40 wore. Other exterior items to take note of are the exposed carbon fiber package, 20-inch forged aluminum wheels, red brake calipers, and silver mirror caps. The interior comes with red accent stitching, anodized gray paddle shifters, exposed carbon fiber trim, and a serialized identification plaque.
      “In creating a worthy successor to the 2017 Heritage edition, we logically looked at our next historic Le Mans victory with the all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt. The 2018 Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition pays homage to that win, with a modern take on one of the most important vehicles in Ford’s storied history of racing,” said Dave Pericak, global director of Ford Performance.
      Ford says they will build a limited amount of the GT ’67 Heritage Edition.
      Source: Ford
      Press Release is on Page 2


      FORD PERFORMANCE TO OFFER TRIBUTE LIVERY OF HISTORIC 1967 LE MANS WINNER WITH 2018 FORD GT '67 HERITAGE EDITION
      Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition with unique red-and-white-stripe livery celebrates 1967 Le Mans-winning GT40 Mark IV race car driven by all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt   Ford GT ‘67 Heritage edition honoring historic No. 1 race car introduced for 2018 model year Limited-edition Ford GT features exclusive race-number graphics, plus unique interior colors, materials and appointments DEARBORN, Mich., Aug. 15, 2017 – The 2018 Ford GT will be available in a new limited-edition Heritage theme honoring the GT40 Mark IV race car driven to victory by the all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt at Le Mans in 1967. The car will feature unique interior and exterior color themes, and an exclusive wheel finish.
      “In creating a worthy successor to the 2017 Heritage edition, we logically looked at our next historic Le Mans victory with the all-American team of Dan Gurney and A.J. Foyt,” said Dave Pericak, global director Ford Performance. “The 2018 Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition pays homage to that win, with a modern take on one of the most important vehicles in Ford’s storied history of racing.”
      The Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition features a gloss-finish Race Red exterior with white stripes and exposed carbon package. The car sports Frozen White No. 1 hood and door graphics, and 20-inch one-piece forged aluminum wheels in silver satin clearcoat with black lug nuts. Red calipers and silver rearview mirror caps complete the look.
      The interior begins with new leather trimming for the carbon fiber seats, with red accent stitching, which carries over to the steering wheel. The seat belt webbing is now red and the paddle shifters are anodized gray. Satin dark stainless appliqués are used on the instrument panel, door register bezels and x-brace.
      Rounding out modifications to the ’67 Heritage edition car are a unique serialized identification plate, plus exposed matte carbon fiber door sills, air register pods and center console.
      “The first Heritage edition car was a huge success, honoring our history with a modern interpretation of the Le Mans winner,” said Garen Nicoghosian, exterior design manager for the car. “Continuing with a 2018 Ford GT based on the winning GT40 Mark IV race car was simply something we needed to do.”
      The Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition can be viewed at FordGT.com using the configuration tool. Limited quantities will be available for the 2018 model year.
    • By William Maley
      The Volkswagen Jetta is an outlier in the compact class. Whereas other automakers have been stepping up with sharper designs, more tech, and improved driving dynamics, Volkswagen went in a completely different direction by offering the biggest amount of interior space for not that much money. But to accomplish this, Volkswagen made a number of sacrifices in terms of design, materials, and mechanical bits. This put the Jetta way behind the pack of the fresh competition. 
      But Volkswagen has been working to try and right some of the wrongs of the Jetta. A couple of years ago, Volkswagen updated the model with a new front end, new dashboard, and a turbocharged 1.4L four-cylinder to take place of the decrepit 2.0L. It salvages the Jetta’s reputation somewhat.
      The current Jetta is slightly better in terms of looks. A new front end with a larger grille and headlights with LED daytime running lights help make the model look more interesting to look at. Sadly, the rest of vehicle is as nondescript as before with nothing that jumps out at you. If you were to ask a small kid to draw a car, it would most likely look like the Jetta. If you ever wanted a master class of in how not to do an interior, the Jetta is a perfect candidate. Whereas most compact sedans show marked improvements in design and materials, the Jetta is like stepping back a decade or so. Our mid-level SE came with a large amount of cheap and hard plastics that you don’t see most compacts now - aside from the base models. The mostly black interior makes for a dreary experience. On the upside, Volkswagen has improved the dash by taking some ideas from the Golf. A new instrument cluster and revised center stack layout helps make the Jetta not feel as cheap as the previous model. It also makes for an easier time to find various controls and reading things at a quick glance. All Jettas get Volkswagen’s Car-Net infotainment system. The base S makes do with a 5-inch touchscreen, while the SE and higher trims use a 6.3-inch screen. Car-Net is one of the best infotainment systems on sale today thanks to a sharp interface, simple layout of the various functions, and the ability to use Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Space is the Jetta’s key selling point. The back seat alone dwarfs most compacts and even gives some midsize sedans a run for their money. Sitting back here, I could stretch out with no issue. The trunk is also huge, offering up 15.7 cubic feet. I do wish the front seats were a bit more comfortable. Most of the week found me constantly adjusting the seat to try and find a position that wouldn’t cause me to ache after a drive. The SE comes with a turbocharged 1.4L four-cylinder offering 150 horsepower and 184 pound-feet of torque. Our test vehicle came with the standard five-speed manual, but a six-speed automatic is available.  On paper, the 1.4T should be a strong engine as it offers the same torque figure as the larger 1.8T at a lower rpm (1,400 rpm vs. 1,500 rpm). In the real world, this doesn’t happen. You’ll need to get the engine above 2,000 rpm to wake it up. At first, I thought we were dealing with a bad case of turbo lag. But further investigation revealed the five-speed manual is at fault. Volkswagen used taller gearing to make up for a missing sixth gear and improve fuel economy. I can’t help but wonder if the six-speed automatic alleviates this issue. Once you figure this out, the 1.4T is a surprising performer. Speed comes on at a rapid rate once your above 2,000 rpm. The engine is also very smooth and makes a pleasant noise when accelerating. The manual is somewhat difficult to work as the gear linkage feels somewhat stiff when moving through the gears. The clutch is light and it’s easy to find the take-off point. EPA fuel economy figures for the 1.4T manual stand at 28 City/40 Highway/33 Combined. I saw an average of 35 mpg that was a mix of 70 percent city driving and 30 percent highway driving. The automatic sees a slight drop in fuel economy to 28/38/32. One item we’re glad to see the lesser Jetta models get is a multilink rear suspension - replacing the rear beam axle of previous models. This makes a huge difference in ride and handling. On rough roads, the Jetta provides a compliant and comfortable ride. Handling is almost similar to the Golf Wolfsburg I drove earlier in the year - little body roll and excellent steering response. The SE seen here came with an as-tested price of $21,795 with destination. That includes 16-inch alloy wheels, heated front seats, blind spot monitoring, keyless entry, push-button start, cruise control, and a power sunroof. The 2017 Volkswagen Jetta is much better than the model that was launched only five years ago. But that isn’t saying a lot considering how much the compact class has moved up in this time frame. Price may be the Jetta’s ultimate strength as it offers a lot of features for the money with the 1.4T engine and interior space running slightly behind. Everywhere else, the Jetta is outmatched. Disclaimer: Volkswagen Provided the Jetta, Insurance, and One Tank of Gas
      Year: 2017
      Make: Volkswagen
      Model: Jetta
      Trim: SE
      Engine: Turbocharged 1.4L 16V TSI Four-Cylinder 
      Driveline: Six-Speed Manual, Front-Wheel Drive
      Horsepower @ RPM: 150 @ 5,000 
      Torque @ RPM: 184 @ 1,400
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 28/40/33
      Curb Weight: 2,939 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Puebla, Mexico
      Base Price: $20,895
      As Tested Price: $21,715 (Includes $820.00 Destination Charge)
      Options: N/A
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