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Mazda News: Mazda CX-9's Turbo-Four Engine Fits In Mazda6's Engine Bay, Speculation Begins!

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The Mazda6 is the outlier in the midsize sedan class as it only offers one engine, a 2.5L Skyactiv-G with 184 horsepower. If you want something more powerful, you'll need to look at another vehicle. But some comments made by Mazda North America's vehicle development engineer has some people speculating about a more powerful Mazda6.

 

Speaking with CarAdvice, Mazda's Dave Coleman said turbo 2.5L used in the new CX-9 crossover can fit into the Mazda6 and even the Mazda3.

 

“It fits in a lot of our cars, and where we’re actually going to put it is another question. It fits in the same package as the diesel fits in, and the same package that the naturally-aspirated 2.5-litre fits in. Basically, that big space we used for the bundle of snakes exhaust manifold, the turbo is in that space too. They’re all packaged to occupy the same space,” said Coleman.

 

Before you get your hopes up and start dreaming of a 227 (regular gas) or 250 (premium gas) horsepower Mazda6, Coleman says it's up to Mazda's product planners if the 6 gets the turbo engine.

 

“It’s up to the product planners to decide what they’re going to put it in. It’s exactly the same clearance as the exhaust manifold of the other engines,” said Coleman.

 

“It fits. I’m not a product planner so I don’t get to make that call."

 

Source: CarAdvice.com.au



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The Mazda 3 and 6 often win comparison tests in their respective classes.  The Mazda 6 could really use the turbo because for some people 184 hp in mid-size car just won't be enough.  The Mazda 3 already has the handling dynamics, but nothing to match up to the Golf GTI, or Focus RS and those sort of cars, the turbo could be nice in there also.

 

Mazda is going after more of an enthusiast, or at least people that like a good handling car, even if not a really fast car.  But they do all these Zoom-Zoom and Driving Matters ads to get the enthusiast buyer, well the enthusiast will want more than 184 hp.  I say put the turbo in both cars, to capture that market.  Because they make great cars now, the extra 50 hp will only make them better.

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Mazda6, BLEH!!!!!!!

 

if they do this though, they should put in a revver, not a torquer

I disagree with you as most people want to get up to highway speed asap and then get good mpg. Revver in a performance 2 door sport cars fine, have it, but in a 4 door family sedan, Turbo will give them the performance, but more commonly used torque to get going and better MPG if tuned properly.

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Defnitely would be nice (along with AWD, sort of a "cool" alternative to a homely Subaru), but would it sell in enough volume to be worth it for them?

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Mazda6, BLEH!!!!!!!

 

if they do this though, they should put in a revver, not a torquer

 

That would the exact opposite of good.

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well, i drove the CX-9 and it sort of loses oomph and runs out of steam up higher, it really doesn't have the powertrain delivery characteristics of a sport sedan.  the press would rail on it.

 

They could retune the engine to have more 'legs' but it wouldn't have to lose a lot of its punch down low.  Since the 6 is a lot lighter, it doesn't need quite so much of the torque just to get out of its own way at a stop light.

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well, i drove the CX-9 and it sort of loses oomph and runs out of steam up higher, it really doesn't have the powertrain delivery characteristics of a sport sedan.  the press would rail on it.

 

They could retune the engine to have more 'legs' but it wouldn't have to lose a lot of its punch down low.  Since the 6 is a lot lighter, it doesn't need quite so much of the torque just to get out of its own way at a stop light.

 

That can all be fixed by gearing.

 

Most torque monsters lose steam at higher RPM.... just the nature of the beast. More gears makes that less of an issue. It was the same back in the S/C3800 days and it's the same today.

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