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Ford News: Ford Spills the Beans On GT's Power Figures

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William Maley    405

Has it really been two years since Ford introduced the GT? *Looks at calendar* Yep, it has been two years. Since that time, we have been wondering about how much power the twin-turbo 3.5L EcoBoost V6 would produce. Ford has finally revealed the numbers earlier this morning.

The 3.5L EcoBoost V6 will produce 647 horsepower and 550 pound-feet of torque. Ford hasn't revealed the 0-60 mph time, but does say the GT has a top speed of 216 mph - making the fastest production vehicle done by the blue oval. Dry weight (meaning no fluids) comes in at 3,054 lbs.

Ford also published lap times of the GT against a Ferrari 458 Speciale and McLaren 675LT done at Calabogie Motorsports Park in Ontario, Canada during development. The times are as followed,

  • Ford GT: 2:09.8
  • McLaren 675LT: 2:10.8
  • Ferrari 458 Speciale: 2:12.9

Source: Ford
Press Release is on Page 2


FORD GT DELIVERS HIGHEST TOP SPEED, FASTEST LAP TIMES ON THE TRACK OF ANY PRODUCTION FORD EVER

  • Assisted by fully active dynamic systems, all-new Ford GT achieves top speed of 216 mph – the highest ever for any Ford production vehicle
  • Strong power-to-weight ratio coupled with the most advanced active suspension system in the segment gives Ford GT the edge in lap times versus the competition
  • Fully active dynamic systems provide optimum downforce, drag and balance at any speed – making the car faster for drivers of all skill levels

DEARBORN, Mich., Jan. 25, 2017 – Delivering the highest output of any EcoBoost® production engine to date, the all-new Ford GT couples its extraordinary power with impressive aerodynamic efficiency and advanced active dynamics to achieve a maximum speed of 216 mph – making it the fastest Ford production vehicle on the track ever.

Capable of an exceptional top speed, Ford’s all-new supercar is designed and optimized for track performance to honor its racing heritage. In 2016 development testing, with all contenders track-prepped with new fluids, fresh tires and optimal suspension settings, in identical conditions and with the same driver behind the wheel, Ford GT bested both the McLaren 675LT and Ferrari 458 Speciale at Calabogie Motorsports Park in Canada.

The numbers speak for themselves:

  • Ford GT: 2:09.8
  • McLaren 675LT: 2:10.8
  • Ferrari 458 Speciale: 2:12.9

SAE-rated at 647 horsepower and with 550 lb.-ft. of torque, Ford’s new high-output 3.5-liter V6 powerplant produces the most horsepower of any EcoBoost production engine ever, making Ford GT the fastest production car ever to wear the Blue Oval badge. The engine’s wide powerband produces 90 percent of its peak torque from 3,500 rpm.

“Our expectation has always been that the EcoBoost V6 would perform exceptionally well in the Ford GT – both in terms of power as well as aerodynamic efficiency,” said Dave Pericak, global director, Ford Performance. “We tested and developed this powertrain through the Daytona Prototype race car that ran in IMSA for two seasons, last season racing with Ford GT. We are extremely pleased with how it performs, both on the track and on the road.”

Ford GT’s dry weight just tops 3,000 pounds, which places the supercar between its two primary competitors, the McLaren 675LT and Ferrari 488. Ford GT’s power-to-weight ratio is 4.72 pounds/horsepower.

“The Ford GT is all about performance,” said Raj Nair, Ford executive vice president, global product development and chief technical officer. “We achieved considerable weight savings with the carbon fiber architecture. We then reinvested some of that savings into where it counts most – performance, specifically, the active dynamics. The result is an even faster car.”

The active dynamics systems – for both suspension and aerodynamics – are designed to make the car perform with optimum downforce, drag and balance at any speed, creating a faster setup regardless of driver skill level.

Ford GT, with no excuses to give, has proven itself time and again, racing to class wins at Le Mans and numerous other tracks in both IMSA and WEC last season. The production Ford GT shares a great deal with the high-performance track version, with advanced aero and suspension features added that take it to another level.


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ccap41    1,221

I love this quote, "Blame the GT's anti-lag. "We certainly could have gotten more fuel economy," Nair told R&T, "but we tuned it for horsepower and throttle response." In three of the GT's five drive modes, anti-lag programming kicks in, sending fuel through the engine even when the throttle's closed to keep the turbos spinning. "We completely looked at the performance metrics," Nair told us. "The fuel economy is what it is." "

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dfelt    1,861

In this car, I would expect nothing but Performance, MPG be damned! They better keep those Turbo's spooling so there is no delay. Nice Job Ford!

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oldshurst442    1,038
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Ford also published lap times of the GT against a Ferrari 458 Speciale and McLaren 675LT done at Calabogie Motorsports Park in Ontario, Canada during development.

 

TSK TSK TSK...

Im sure Donald Trump will have something to say about that.

Future testing will have to be performed on AMERICAN GROUND! On American road courses!

Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca, Willow Springs, Lime Rock...what are those there for?

Americans and American jobs...

Im sure he will hit hard with words but will be willing to negotiate...he is a negotiator after all...

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Watch out Bill, you arent American by blood...

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THERE....THAT IS MORE LIKE IT!

He dont like Saturday Night Live I heard....

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This bastard is taking away from American jobs..I mean, an American could have invented SNL and those sketches could be satirizing Canadian Prime Ministers instead!

Oh...back to the Ford GT....

Yeah...awesome!

 

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ccap41    1,221
12 minutes ago, FordCosworth said:

This beauty dry weight is at least 55lbs too heavy :(

Agreed, buuuuut... It sounds worth it.

" "But as we did the simulations and some of the testing with the mules, we thought it was worth reinvesting some of that [weight savings] into the active aero and the active suspension. We were faster by putting the systems in. So we felt it was worth reinvesting it into getting the lap times. We would have been right there on dry weight without that." "

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daves87rs    349
3 hours ago, dfelt said:

In this car, I would expect nothing but Performance, MPG be damned! They better keep those Turbo's spooling so there is no delay. Nice Job Ford!

Exactly! It's not like people buy these for a trip to the local Wal Mart or something...

Still love the looks of this car....

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Frisky Dingo    633

Not enough power.

Too expensive.

Too heavy.

I'm sorry, but I don't see this car being the mega hit with the press. Within the next year, there are going to be cars six-figures cheaper that will deliver the same or better performance. 

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hyperv6    774

Here is the deal with this car. 

It is not a mega exotic like the Veyron or La Ferrari. 

It also is not a lower priced super car like the 458 and Mclaren. It is in  no mans land where it is too expensive to be classed where it should be and not powerful enough and expensive enough to play with the big names. 

Next we have a Corvette coming that will sell for about 1/3 of the price and will be fitted with a V8 with more power. heck the present car as similar power now. 

Hmm this is why they are only making a few hundred a year. The exclusivity is about all it really has going for it to expect that price. 

I still think they should have used a V8 and priced this car to where the last GT was. Sell about 2000 a year and really have a lasting car that you could continue and build on. Also one someone may be more likely to see than a Veyron. 

In the end it is still a Ford not a Ferrari or a Mclaren. 

To be fair the media will swoon over it. Kits will put up free car show posters and odds are the BOP will be worked so they win the GTLM class this year for them. But most people with the mean will opt for the bigger exotic name.

Lets face it. Is it more fun to be known as the guy with the Ferrari or Mclaren or the guy with the Ford?

This is why Chevy will not go this route as while the Corvette name has a lot of equity it also is know to be a car that can deliver exotic performance, A car that can win Le Mans and a car that is still in the realm of ownership of a large number of people new and used.

I like the GT but I just see a lot of limitations of benefit for Ford. I just think they got the package right on the last car. I saw one in the JW Gulf colors the other say and that is what it is all about. Heritage but yet in a modern car.  

 

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dfelt    1,861

Love the car design, I wonder how long before someone builds a knock off fiberglass kit car for about $50,000. Buy a trashed Corvette, dump the body, spruce up the power-train and drop the fiber glass kit on and boom, Sleeper GT! :P

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hyperv6    774
3 hours ago, dfelt said:

Love the car design, I wonder how long before someone builds a knock off fiberglass kit car for about $50,000. Buy a trashed Corvette, dump the body, spruce up the power-train and drop the fiber glass kit on and boom, Sleeper GT! :P

It will be a old Fiero with a bad kit and a LT4.

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oldshurst442    1,038
14 hours ago, hyperv6 said:

Lets face it. Is it more fun to be known as the guy with the Ferrari or Mclaren or the guy with the Ford?

 

WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO READ, THE RANT DOWN BELOW, WAS STARTED YESTERDAY.

I NEVER FINISHED IT TO POST IT, BECAUSE I SAID...."PHOQUE IT! NOT WORTH MY TIME!"

BUT BECAUSE SAUVE DONE HIS RANT, AND I APPLAUD HIM FOR IT, AND THROUGH THE MAGIC OF THIS SITE SAVING POSTS...HERE IS MINE!!!

 

Well...in this picture

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Id rather the Blue Oval ..

Mclarens are too stiff to have fun with. They take the speed business waaaay too serious. No passion. No sexiness. Blah! Dry like toast they are.

The price tag is what makes people go oooooo and aaaaaa over it. Like Bentley cars....

It aint the speed....because 1990 Japanese sports cars with Twin Turbo V6s could reach 1000 HP with ease and reliability and offer just as much handling prowess....and those Japanese tuned up sports cars have got that passion in spades...

Sure the latest and greatest Mclaren has a few curves here and there, but they do nothing for me...

So its the price tag that denotes that "I gotta have it"  feeling.

 

Ferraris have forgotten how to be sexy. And they have just about sold out and whored out their branding to actually mean anything to me. To fake latte swilling imbeciles who only buy badges...Ferraris work....to connoisseurs like myself....Id rather a vintage Ferrari...

 

This is where a Ford GT comes in....

You did mention that a decade ago....those GTs were selling MSRP $150 000.

In the auctions now...upward $500 000...in a decade...they rose up in value.

Yes I know...

Ecoboost V6 with only 640 some odd ponies where Ferraris and Mclarens make 750 or so and there is a Mclaren with Hybrid electric power...

I understand that.

But the Ford GT is a car with deep rooted history that embarrassed Ferrari, spanked Ferraris ass!

At a time when American cars were huge land yachts with gobs of chrome...

Muscle cars were laughed at because they couldnt turn...well...the Ford GT40 held a big middle finger to that and told Ferrari...and the rest of the world to PHOQUE OFF!!!

The Corvette was not the one to do that, nor was it the Cobra Daytona, despite both the Vette and Daytona having racing success before the GT40 was even a sperm...

And the races were not fixed then!

OK.....so the race was rigged in Ford's favor last year!

The Vettes a decade ago, when they were winning, laws were put into place to neuter them, the complete opposite...which to me says that at Lemans, and the peeps running Lemans, do like a Ford better than Chevy, telling me Ford has more weight than Chevy...and FERRARI!

To boot, Duntov wanted a mid-engined Vette from the early 60s.

GM/Chevy has had cold feet with that since the early 60s....

Ford has had RUNAWAY success with that mid-engine GT40 brand since the 1960s...

ALL OVER THE WORLD, PEEPS RESPECT the GT and the GT40...

THAT IS WHY the previous generation just in a decades time is a sought after collector's car...and the peeps, they keep modifying it to stay relevant...

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A Ford GT is not just a "Ford"

A Ford GT is just as COVETED AS ANY SPORTS MACHINE AS ANY OTHER!

This new one is an ecoboosted V6...

People will find ways to mod it just like they did with the other one...

Outside the United States of America of all things!

 

I dont get this negativity at all!

I was once one of those that HATED the idea of an ecoboost V6 under the hood, actually, I still wished it had the Voodoo under the hood with ONLY 500 some odd horses...

This new Ford GT, hey....

it looks a TON better than ANY McLaren, or MODERN Ferrari!

LaFerrari is sex on wheels, it ought to be, its a Ferrari!

The Ford GT has passion: the secrecy surrounding its existence is proof of that!

Its sexy in a retro but very different approach and take to the original!

Unlike the 2005 model which was a copy and paste and enlarge by 25% type deal! Which was AWESOME for 2005! This new GT exterior is EXCELLENT for 2017!

There are some exotic technologies in this new one. Yeah, even the engine!

The 2005 one was just a F-150 lightning truck engine! 

Debbie Downers . Stop with the depressing shyte!

 

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ccap41    1,221
16 hours ago, Frisky Dingo said:

Not enough power.

Too expensive.

Too heavy.

I'm sorry, but I don't see this car being the mega hit with the press. Within the next year, there are going to be cars six-figures cheaper that will deliver the same or better performance. 

Money isn't an issue on something like this as it's basically an investment. You won't lose money on it whereas one of its direct competitors is known to depreciate like a son of a bitch in McLarens.

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Frisky Dingo    633

@oldshurst442 I get the underlying premise of your post, and largely agree with it. That however doesn't justify this car's position in my mind. 

Is the Ford GT a collectible car that enthusiasts the world over respect and put in the same league as Ferrari, Lambo, etc?? Absolutely. Is this car any more special and deserving of a higher price tag than a 458 Speciale, a 675 LT, or Huracan Performante? I find it hard to make a case for it.

3 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Money isn't an issue on something like this as it's basically an investment. You won't lose money on it whereas one of its direct competitors is known to depreciate like a son of a bitch in McLarens.

Hahahahaha. :lol:

I think you need to check Speciale and 675 LT values.... :AH-HA:

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oldshurst442    1,038
3 minutes ago, Frisky Dingo said:

@oldshurst442 I get the underlying premise of your post, and largely agree with it. That however doesn't justify this car's position in my mind. 

Is the Ford GT a collectible car that enthusiasts the world over respect and put in the same league as Ferrari, Lambo, etc?? Absolutely. Is this car any more special and deserving of a higher price tag than a 458 Speciale, a 675 LT, or Huracan Performante? I find it hard to make a case for it.

Well.

No regular civilian has driven it yet. No journalist.

Like Suave said though...

500 units more were added to the final tally because the MYSTIQUE of a Ford GT is DEFINITELY worth the price of admission.

Now...I will find middle ground with you:

IT BETTER HAVE SUBSTANCE or the mystique of a Ford GT will die with this model never to command another generation 10-20-30 years down the road. It will die like the Viper died!

Something that Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Corvette and even McLaren for a shorter amount of time than the others mentioned have done over the decades to  continue to have people flock to their cars decade after decade. Unlike the aforementioned Dodge Viper!

 

 

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Frisky Dingo    633
8 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Well.

No regular civilian has driven it yet. No journalist.

Like Suave said though...

500 units more were added to the final tally because the MYSTIQUE of a Ford GT is DEFINITELY worth the price of admission.

Now...I will find middle ground with you:

IT BETTER HAVE SUBSTANCE or the mystique of a Ford GT will die with this model never to command another generation 10-20-30 years down the road. It will die like the Viper died!

Something that Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Corvette and even McLaren for a shorter amount of time than the others mentioned have done over the decades to  continue to have people flock to their cars decade after decade. Unlike the aforementioned Dodge Viper!

 

 

This is true.

And to clarify, for me it's not a matter of a potential cross-shopper not seeing the value relative to other supercars. Someone who wants one of these is going to buy it regardless.

It's simply more an issue of "If others can do it, why can't you?" To me, this car needs to be objectively perfect, and subjectively stellar. A 400K car can't be just 'pretty good'. It needs to be likened to the other great modern supercars and be declared to be in the same league as other special models. It can't just be an Americanized 488 or 650S.

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ccap41    1,221
1 hour ago, Frisky Dingo said:

@oldshurst442 I get the underlying premise of your post, and largely agree with it. That however doesn't justify this car's position in my mind. 

Is the Ford GT a collectible car that enthusiasts the world over respect and put in the same league as Ferrari, Lambo, etc?? Absolutely. Is this car any more special and deserving of a higher price tag than a 458 Speciale, a 675 LT, or Huracan Performante? I find it hard to make a case for it.

Hahahahaha. :lol:

I think you need to check Speciale and 675 LT values.... :AH-HA:

McLaren's resale is dog$h!.. I know Ferrari's all tend to hold their value. 

It doesn't take much shopping around to see the depreciation of Mclarens compared to any Ferrari or GTs.

Also, because the 675LT is a stripped down/track-ier version of the 650S wouldn't the 650S be more a long the lines of a GT/488 competitor? Or are we comparing to the 675LT because of price?

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Frisky Dingo    633
22 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

McLaren's resale is dog$h!.. I know Ferrari's all tend to hold their value. 

It doesn't take much shopping around to see the depreciation of Mclarens compared to any Ferrari or GTs.

Also, because the 675LT is a stripped down/track-ier version of the 650S wouldn't the 650S be more a long the lines of a GT/488 competitor? Or are we comparing to the 675LT because of price?

Why on earth would you compare the GT to a standard 650S? :confused0071:

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ccap41    1,221

"standard" just means it has a full interior and doesn't have tacked on larger carbon fiber pieces extending off the front and rear of the car. Oh, and 25hp. The 675LT doesn't come with A/C standard either.

Why does the GT have to be compared to the 675LT? It's an honest question.

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hyperv6    774

FYI has anyone noted the word going around GM bought back the Cerv 1 at Barrett Jackson last week for $1.3m. 

This a great indication they may be preparing the launch of the C8 Zora. What better car to use to introduce the new car than the first mid engine Chevy Zora himself built and drove. I can see a intro and marketing program using the two cars together. Too bad the Cerv 2 is not for sale. 

GM should have never let them get away in the first place. 

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ccap41    1,221

lol that's what investors want to see. 1.3m thrown out the door as a prop for a new vehicle introduction. 

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Suaviloquent    713

The thing is Mclaren and Ferrari need to sell their supercars to earn a living, Ford doesn't need the GT, they built it around the legacy of the historic win in 1966, and this car truly will be limited.

 

Mclaren has a whole family of vehicles so does Ferrari. But there is only one GT. 

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oldshurst442    1,038
4 minutes ago, Suaviloquent said:

The thing is Mclaren and Ferrari need to sell their supercars to earn a living, Ford doesn't need the GT, they built it around the legacy of the historic win in 1966, and this car truly will be limited.

 

Mclaren has a whole family of vehicles so does Ferrari. But there is only one GT. 

So much for Ferrari heritage...

http://ls1tech.com/articles/ferrari-308-ls-swap/

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http://www.lsxmag.com/news/swap-insanity-ferrari-360-gt-powered-by-1000-horsepower-ls-engine/

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This is about the Ford GT...

However, this also goes to show you how whoring out your brand does to the respect aspect...

Like you said Suave, there is only 1 Ford GT...

And with that being said, I change my mind about the Corvette being its own brand.

It dont need to be its own brand...people respect it the way it is now...

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So much so, that newer Porsches and Ferraris prefer the Vette's heart!

 

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dfelt    1,861
11 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

So much for Ferrari heritage...

http://ls1tech.com/articles/ferrari-308-ls-swap/

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http://www.lsxmag.com/news/swap-insanity-ferrari-360-gt-powered-by-1000-horsepower-ls-engine/

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This is about the Ford GT...

However, this also goes to show you how whoring out your brand does to the respect aspect...

Like you said Suave, there is only 1 Ford GT...

And with that being said, I change my mind about the Corvette being its own brand.

It dont need to be its own brand...people respect it the way it is now...

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So much so, that newer Porsches and Ferraris prefer the Vette's heart!

 

LS engine swaps in these auto's are very common in Washington. You have the RIch people buy these auto's till the engines blow and they get rid of them cheap and then others who love the body style but want an easy to work on and cheap to repair engine swap out for an LS. Jeep Wrangler owners do this all the time as do many others due to the ease of fitting a small block V8 into so many various cars, trucks, SUV's.

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      The Ford GT ’67 Heritage edition can be viewed at FordGT.com using the configuration tool. Limited quantities will be available for the 2018 model year.

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