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WOW
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/mercedes-amg-project-one-hypercar-revealed/

So this Hypercar requires a complete rebuild of the 1.6L V6 engine every 30,000 miles.

PASS,

The Rimac is way better and as proven, I really doubt the MB Hypercar can beat it in performance.

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4 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Hard to take 'Rimac' seriously, though when compared to real car companies....a startup car company in Croatia?  Riiiight...more prototypes with low odds of success...I'm skeptical of these new supercar companies, just a lot of hype without substance.   M-B AMG I take seriously..

People have said that (and some still do) about Tesla. Rimac was founded in 2009- 8 years ago now.

Rimac : "Almost all of the materials are produced in-house; no critical components are off-the-shelf."
That's a world apart from most start-ups AND established OEMs.

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10 minutes ago, balthazar said:

People have said that (and some still do) about Tesla. Rimac was founded in 2009- 8 years ago now.

Tesla is well funded American company and actually selling cars, what are Rimac's sales numbers?  Shady Eastern European nonsense, IMO....these silly hypercar companies from backwaters come and go all the time...Lycan, Mastretta, etc...lots of hype, no substance.... about the only one that seems to actually be a real company with solid engineering is Koenigsegg.   

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Just now, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Tesla is well funded and actually selling cars, what are Rimac's sales numbers?  Shady Eastern European nonsense, IMO....

Pffft- 'well-funded? 13 years of no profits is poorly funded- that's negative income. Yes, selling cars now, but in the beginning; no. Financially Tesla is a house of cards- that may change, hopefully that will change very soon... but even the selling of the Model 3 in a 'mostly loaded' state of $24-49K does not bode well for making a profit at the 'bait' price of $35K. They need to curtail capital spending, their debt must be astronomical.

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11 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Pffft- 'well-funded? 13 years of no profits is poorly funded- that's negative income. Yes, selling cars now, but in the beginning; no. Financially Tesla is a house of cards- that may change, hopefully that will change very soon... but even the selling of the Model 3 in a 'mostly loaded' state of $24-49K does not bode well for making a profit at the 'bait' price of $35K. They need to curtail capital spending, their debt must be astronomical.

That's typical for American tech startups, though..takes a while for them to get profitable.   

I have to laugh at people that try and discredit an American startup car company, yet praise unknown nonsense from a company like Rimac--some nothing company from nowhere...

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2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Tesla is well funded American company and actually selling cars, what are Rimac's sales numbers?  Shady Eastern European nonsense, IMO....these silly hypercar companies from backwaters come and go all the time...Lycan, Mastretta, etc...lots of hype, no substance.... about the only one that seems to actually be a real company with solid engineering is Koenigsegg.   

One has to wonder if this is where BitCoin pirate profits go to these backwater startups. Maybe also funded by the dark web.

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10 minutes ago, dfelt said:

One has to wonder if this is where BitCoin pirate profits go to these backwater startups. Maybe also funded by the dark web.

Could be...wouldn't trust any company from Eastern Europe...lots of shady stuff coming out of there. 

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5 hours ago, dfelt said:

WOW
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/mercedes-amg-project-one-hypercar-revealed/

So this Hypercar requires a complete rebuild of the 1.6L V6 engine every 30,000 miles.

PASS,

The Rimac is way better and as proven, I really doubt the MB Hypercar can beat it in performance.

The Rimac weighs 4200 lbs and has regular car suspension;  the AMG weighs 2700 and has F1 car suspension.   Which do you think will be better in the corners?

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8 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

The Rimac weighs 4200 lbs and has regular car suspension;  the AMG weighs 2700 and has F1 car suspension.   Which do you think will be better in the corners?

Considering so many sports cars have been around the 4200 mark till just the last couple of years, I would say the Rimac would probably perform not much difference than cars in the 2 door segment from the Italians, Germans, Americans and Asians.

Being that it does not have to lug an ICE engine that has to be rebuilt every 30,000 miles, Lower cost to operate and already one of the fastest monsters out there.

We will weight till the actual production of a Project One comes out and then see how it stands up.

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30 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Considering so many sports cars have been around the 4200 mark till just the last couple of years, I would say the Rimac would probably perform not much difference than cars in the 2 door segment from the Italians, Germans, Americans and Asians.

Being that it does not have to lug an ICE engine that has to be rebuilt every 30,000 miles, Lower cost to operate and already one of the fastest monsters out there.

We will weight till the actual production of a Project One comes out and then see how it stands up.

Since it's not from a reputable existing car company, I wouldn't expect the Rimac to perform at all...a Rimac is what Richard Hammond crashed in Switzerland recently, went off the road and burst into flame...like a kit car, but more expensive..can't imagine anyone paying $2 mill for such garbage. 

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12 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Since it's not from a reputable existing car company, I wouldn't expect the Rimac to perform at all...a Rimac is what Richard Hammond crashed in Switzerland recently, went off the road and burst into flame...like a kit car, but more expensive..can't imagine anyone paying $2 mill for such garbage. 

They do say a Fool and His Money is soon parted! :P 

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A company's reputation is built not on press releases and twitter feeds, but product.
Despite some folk not believing the car or the country it comes from is "real", both do exist.

wouldn't trust any company from Eastern Europe...lots of shady stuff coming out of there.

Germany & Croatia share the same longitude.

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Germany has a long history in the auto industry...Croatia--none....  I'm skeptical of some tiny company with no track record from a place with no reputation for autos....

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3 hours ago, balthazar said:

A company's reputation is built not on press releases and twitter feeds, but product.
Despite some folk not believing the car or the country it comes from is "real", both do exist.

 

They supposedly built 8 cars in 2014...so yes, the product exists, but in insignificant numbers...again, nothing compared to the output of a real car company.

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Yeah....well...I personally  wouldnt trust any car coming from Germany either...some pretty shady stuff coming outta Germany too ya know...

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http://www.autonews.com/article/20170303/OEM11/170309916/mercedes-to-recall-1-million-newer-vehicles-globally-after-51-fires

https://www.autoblog.com/2017/03/04/million-mercedes-benz-recall-fire-risk/

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