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Oh no, not again, .... 2018 Chrysler Pacifica Touring L Plus


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We took ours from Michigan to Florida and back including driving through the mountains on the back roads from Atlanta to Pigeon Forge and I bet it averaged 26 - 26.5 mpg for the round trip.  The stop/start did quit working coming down one of those mountains, though.  They replaced the battery and reflashed it and it has been good since.  The dealership told me I needed to drive it more.  I told the guy, more than the 17,500 miles I put on it in the first 12 months of ownership? 😆

On a side note, don't put bad windshield washer solvent in these.  Cost me $320 for a new pump, filter and blowing out the lines.  Could have done it myself for $40 worth of parts but just didn't feel like messing around with it.  Anyway, they said use the blue stuff only.

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Yikes, I used the purple stuff, has a rain deterrent in it that works moderately well, hasn't clogged my veins so far, but I heard the same thing you're saying from others.

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55 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Speaking of the Pacifica, haven't seen any mention here about the return of the Voyager name for the lower Pacifica trims.

it came out on a day I was sick and I never circled back around to put it up.  But you've essentially written the whole thing.  The lower trims are now Voyager instead of Pacifica. 

16 minutes ago, dfelt said:

I am seeing less and less of the Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Kia minivans. They truly seem to be a dying breed.

One wonders... with the small number of sales in the minivan segment, how do they keep the cars alive.  When, as in Ford's case, they were selling 250,000 Fusions a year and couldn't keep it going.  That's almost as much as the whole minivan segment alone. 

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32 minutes ago, dfelt said:

I am seeing less and less of the Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Kia minivans. They truly seem to be a dying breed.

Same here.  Apparently nobody wants to buy a minivan anymore.  Can't imagine why.

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1 minute ago, riviera74 said:

Same here.  Apparently nobody wants to buy a minivan anymore.  Can't imagine why.

They make a lot more sense as a family hauler than the CUV or SUV..taller inside, power sliding doors, etc...

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16 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

They make a lot more sense as a family hauler than the CUV or SUV..taller inside, power sliding doors, etc...

Would be cool to have a suburban with a power sliding door.

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Just now, dfelt said:

Would be cool to have a suburban with a power sliding door.

Yeah...and the height of a minivan is big part of the difference for an adult getting in the third row..I recall getting in the 3rd row of an Uber Burban in SF a few years ago, was awkward even with the size of the Burban... 

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i still know plenty of folks like us that have a van.

declining segment, yes.  But there is still very few models.  Odyssey, Sienna, Chrysler buyers all like them.

That said.  I think they could stand to add AWD to them, and that might help them regain new interest.  The Sienna is odd that way in that at least in the past it added run flat tires.  If they keep the price of the AWD down, the sliding doors alone make many folks go to a van vs an SUV.

That said (part duex) now that our kids are getting older etc. I could see an Enclave or Atlas etc. in the future to replace the Chrysler.  The kids can be trusted to not fling doors open into other cars these days.  Chrysler needs to make a 3 row SUV off the Pacifica platform.

Sometimes the van is TOO big for everyday outings.  Maybe the next step in vans is to try to reduce the size 5% while figuring out how to keep nearly the same usable space.

 

9 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

Speaking of the Pacifica, haven't seen any mention here about the return of the Voyager name for the lower Pacifica trims.

noteworthy, the Voyager does not have Sto N Go.  One way to keep PAcifica resale from tanking while cheapening the base trims is to rename the base trim to another model and stripping the features out of that.  They can pump up the Pacifica MSRP's and the Voyager can become the cheap lease special.

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My next door neighbors have an older F150, and a Sienna and an Odyssey, both around 10 years old..now that their kids are both driving (one in high school w/ an FR-S, one in college w/ a Compass), I assume they will get something else eventually. 

Speaking of minivans, I wonder if they will eventually drop the Caravan or rebadge the Voyager for Dodge dealers.   It's still selling...

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24 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

My next door neighbors have an older F150, and a Sienna and an Odyssey, both around 10 years old..now that their kids are both driving (one in high school w/ an FR-S, one in college w/ a Compass), I assume they will get something else eventually. 

Speaking of minivans, I wonder if they will eventually drop the Caravan or rebadge the Voyager for Dodge dealers.   It's still selling...

Are you sure that Chrysler and Dodge dealers are still separate?  Eleven years ago about 1000 dealers went bankrupt.  Virtually all of them were GM, Ford and FCA dealerships.  I suspect there was a lot of consolidation of those dealers too.

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14 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Are you sure that Chrysler and Dodge dealers are still separate?  Eleven years ago about 1000 dealers went bankrupt.  Virtually all of them were GM, Ford and FCA dealerships.  I suspect there was a lot of consolidation of those dealers too.

Ah, good point... many do seem to be CJRD dealers nowadays (that's all I've seen in NE Ohio and the Phoenix area)...so they probably they don't need a Dodge version.  Maybe Voyager is the strategy to replace the current Caravan...  Dodge if it's around in 5 years will probably just be the Charger and Challenger, since the Durango will probably be replaced by the 3 row Jeep. 

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12 hours ago, regfootball said:

there is a dealer near here that is Chrysler Jeep only and then a separately owned Dodge dealer like 2 miles away.  

That may be true where you live.  But down here in SW FL, all the FCA dealerships are under one roof.  It has been that way for at least a decade.

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21 hours ago, regfootball said:

there is a dealer near here that is Chrysler Jeep only and then a separately owned Dodge dealer like 2 miles away.  

That is the arrangement in my town as well.

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On 7/10/2019 at 6:56 PM, ocnblu said:

That is the arrangement in my town as well.

the dealer a couple miles from my house though is all mopar.  dodge chrysler, jeep and ram.  and they have some GLADIATORS!  I've been digging those lately and i am neither a Jeep guy or a pickup guy.  But a bright red GLADIATOR would be cool.

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19 hours ago, balthazar said:

I've seen a few Gladiators- would have been better as a 'Wrangler SUV' because the bed is literally pointless.

For some Jeep types I think all they may really want is to carry an SUV, i don't know if it does that.

 

It carries larger and longer items under the tonneau also.

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My God- you can't even put a bicycle in the back of a Gladiator with a front wheel OFF and close the tailgate! Every googleimage pic of a dirt bike or ATV has the tailgate open. 1 more foot and it would be a lot more useful/secure. Or perhaps the concept is not fully baked. 

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4 minutes ago, balthazar said:

My God- you can't even put a bicycle in the back of a Gladiator with a front wheel OFF and close the tailgate! Every googleimage pic of a dirt bike or ATV has the tailgate open. 1 more foot and it would be a lot more useful/secure. Or perhaps the concept is not fully baked. 

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i wonder if someone will develop one of those rear of cargo box gate type things that extend out the back of the bed when the tailgate is down.  People who had explorer sporttracs and chevy avalanches had them a lot of the time.

since you can change the tops over the seating area, i wonder if someone will develop a system to put a matching style top over the bed.

 

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