2019 Cadillac XT4 Review: Is Cadillac's Most Affordable New Car Any Good?

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[ocnblu]

Seems he made a bit of a fool of the Cadillac rep, right on CUE.

[David]

Seems a recent invite review of the XT4 here in Seattle was a hit. 

Autoblog Seattle Review of XT4 

Wished I had known they were here as I would have loved to test drive it.

[David]

17 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Seems he made a bit of a fool of the Cadillac rep, right on CUE.

So true, the voice option clearly needs work and I wonder if they really know how to use it as the website says you can voice control cabin temperature. So I wonder if it is wording that is needed, so better training? 🤷‍♂️

[ccap41]

If you can't fit in a CX9, don't bother sitting in an XT4-sized vehicle. 

[David]

1 minute ago, ccap41 said:

If you can't fit in a CX9, don't bother sitting in an XT4-sized vehicle. 

I plan to just to see how it lines up against the Buick Envision and others. Buy one? Nope not for me, but gotta try it out as I do with all things. :) 

[frogger]

Wow, pano roof or not, that black interior needs more contrast somewhere.

 

[Suaviloquent]

The CX9 is a better luxury vehicle than any tiny ass made for Asians crossovers, especially the XT4, that’s still smaller than its competition that is the NX, X3, Q5 and GLC.

😝 

[ccap41]

44 minutes ago, Suaviloquent said:

The CX9 is a better luxury vehicle than any tiny ass made for Asians crossovers, especially the XT4, that’s still smaller than its competition that is the NX, X3, Q5 and GLC.

😝 

I think these are more X1/GLA sized... 

NVM, it's almost squarely in the middle of an X1 and X3 length-wise but width and height are similar to an X3. 

[frogger]

I guess if it is priced similar to the smaller competition and not the larger vehicles it is a good thing..

 

 

 

 

[ccap41]

Yep, it should do well because of that. 

[frogger]

3 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Yep, it should do well because of that. 

I ended up a nicely optioned AWD one for 49K on their web site.  Oh well.  Not sure I would take one over a bigger, faster RDX with SH-AWD, Tech and Advance package.  I guess if massaging seats were a deal breaker..

 

 

 

 

 

[Drew Dowdell]

On ‎9‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 11:57 AM, dfelt said:

I plan to just to see how it lines up against the Buick Envision and others. Buy one? Nope not for me, but gotta try it out as I do with all things.

It's smaller than an Envision. 

[Drew Dowdell]

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

I think these are more X1/GLA sized... 

NVM, it's almost squarely in the middle of an X1 and X3 length-wise but width and height are similar to an X3. 

 

59 minutes ago, frogger said:

I guess if it is priced similar to the smaller competition and not the larger vehicles it is a good thing..

 

49 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Yep, it should do well because of that. 

Cadillac's strategy is to offer more size for the price.  It's never been a declared strategy, but at each entry you can see it.  ATS is bigger than CLA for the same price. XT5 is bigger than X3 or GLC for the same price.  CT6 is bigger than E-Class or 5-series for the same price.  The only one that doesn't fit this is the CTS, but you could even argue that the C-Class gets into the CTS price range pretty quickly. 

[ccap41]

Well when the ATS came out it was lined up almost directly to the 3 Series and C Class in both size and price. 

2012 prices:

ATS: $33,990

3 Series: $34,900

C Class: $35,220

And the A4: $32,500

[Drew Dowdell]

27 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Well when the ATS came out it was lined up almost directly to the 3 Series and C Class in both size and price. 

2012 prices:

ATS: $33,990

3 Series: $34,900

C Class: $35,220

And the A4: $32,500

They've all, except the ATS, moved up in price point since then.  The C-Class in particular is difficult to get at base price unless you're looking for a fancy taxi. 

[ccap41]

21 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

They've all, except the ATS, moved up in price point since then.  The C-Class in particular is difficult to get at base price unless you're looking for a fancy taxi. 

Absolutely agree. I was just saying that the intent of Cadillac to make the ATS a tweener or bargain for its size isn't really accurate with the ATS. It coincidentally became a good price for its size as its competition outgrew it and they kept the price reasonable and the other dropped in smaller cars priced closer to it. 

FWIW, the A4 still undercuts the ATS by $2,995 at 2018 MSRPs. 

[ccap41]

Comparing A4 to ATS the A4 is the space winner in more dimensions. Now that's the tweener winner with a cheap entry price but space like the other Germans. Obviously the A4 isn't the dynamic sporty sedan that the ATS is but anybody buying the base models of those cars doesn't care too much. 

[Drew Dowdell]

46 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Comparing A4 to ATS the A4 is the space winner in more dimensions. Now that's the tweener winner with a cheap entry price but space like the other Germans. Obviously the A4 isn't the dynamic sporty sedan that the ATS is but anybody buying the base models of those cars doesn't care too much. 

And sometimes Cadillac is going to not win in these comparisons.... but the strategy is still there.    Cadillac is historically about being the biggest you can get for a particular class.... going back decades. 

[ccap41]

Well they changed that strategy with the ATS. 

[David]

 

I am liking the change on Cadillac's Instagram account. Like the XT4 more.