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4 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Lincoln Aviator, Nice Old Retro CUV.

I like XT6 better. My visual choice. Have to drive both to compare for physical preference, but the inside dash is retro :puke: to me.

The only 2-3 people who have actually said nice things about the XT6 have been ridiculous Cadillac/GM fanboys.

It's as rehashed a product as there is on the market and it's supposed to be brand new. 

"Dare Greatly" - Really? Cadillac took ZERO chances rehashing a FWD appliance for their "marque" brand.

4 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

The proper RWD/AWD platform and drivetrain alone make the Aviator more appealing to me than the XT6, and the styling.   Nothing retro about it that I can see.

He says anything that isn't GM looks old or is retro so take his opinion on "retro" with a grain of salt. 

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2 hours ago, dfelt said:

Lincoln Aviator, Nice Old Retro CUV.

I like XT6 better. My visual choice. Have to drive both to compare for physical preference, but the inside dash is retro :puke: to me.

Even with my anti Ford bias Lincoln wins that one hands down.

I really sense this Buick will be a dud. Seriously.

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When the Koreans and fuck it...Lincoln even, I mean you expect the Koreans to rise like Japan, but even head stuck in their ass Lincoln is coming back... And Buick and Cadillac share a measly engine. 

You like the style of the XT6 moar sure....sure... All I know is that Lincoln is doing with their crossovers what GM did with Alpha platform.

 

So fuck yeah Camaro is the better performance car and the Mustang is a cushy pony car. 

And the Aviator will be a true luxury SUV and the XT6 will be a cushy minivan without sliding doors. 

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The Regal is hands down better looking than the A4. The A4 is plain boring VW-ish. Standard jelly bean. The performance of the S4 beats the Regal GS, but not the A4.

The Stinger is a Kia. Nuff said. RWD is not the holy grail.

XT6 looks better than the Aviator. The Aviator does triumph it in terms of cushy, and damn sure power. That said.. I like how because Lincoln, after the swing and miss MKT, MKC, MKX (Nauti), anc Continental, is suddenly beating out Cadillac because of a long over due replacement to the Navigator and platform mate to the Explorer. The current Escalade still comes off as more luxo and commanding with a new one on the way on less than a year,,, done

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Kia nuff said? What's funny is how Kia can market a RWD car and make it viable but Chevy brought the SS and it was to GM not worth continuing. 

BTW THE Buick Regal... Is not even an American engineered car. I believe the operative word was 'fukk the Germans. Eff 'em'

And of course Opel is now a Peugeot. There's nothing American other than a badge engineer that designed the Buick badge (probably from China too).

I have reasons to believe there's moar American and proper German engineering put into a Kia than a Buick. So sad.

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If you are a GM, red blooded Pax Americanan - You would hate the Regal. 

C'mon Toyota buys it's sports cars from Subaru and BMW now, how the hell is the Regal different in terms of the process of calling it a Buick the same way Toyota calls those cars 'Toyotas' because Buick buys the Regal from the French.and because GM

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6 hours ago, Suaviloquent said:

Kia nuff said? What's funny is how Kia can market a RWD car and make it viable but Chevy brought the SS and it was to GM not worth continuing. 

BTW THE Buick Regal... Is not even an American engineered car. I believe the operative word was 'fukk the Germans. Eff 'em'

And of course Opel is now a Peugeot. There's nothing American other than a badge engineer that designed the Buick badge (probably from China too).

I have reasons to believe there's moar American and proper German engineering put into a Kia than a Buick. So sad.

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If you are a GM, red blooded Pax Americanan - You would hate the Regal. 

C'mon Toyota buys it's sports cars from Subaru and BMW now, how the hell is the Regal different in terms of the process of calling it a Buick the same way Toyota calls those cars 'Toyotas' because Buick buys the Regal from the French.and because GM

 

Nope. As along as Opel was owned by GM it was American.  All the engineering was American. Simple as that. When they sold Opel the engineering was still GM's, U are an idiot for trying to argue otherwise. 

Now.. the SS, or rather rebodied Pontiac G8/Commodore, which was around from 2006 til 2017 was killed off because unlike FCA, GM chooses to bring new platforms to the market and kill old ones that have been around for 10 years. That is longer than the Stinger has been around.  The SS still doesn't negate the fact that GM still has RWD sedans within the company.. within the brand I'd buy them from.. so in the end scenario... the hell I care that the Chevy folks can't have a Kia competitor as long as I'm happy?

BTW.. where is your Stinger, or Chevy SS.. hell.. used Charger? If U're gonna defend RWD at least show pics of yours.. otherwise U are just pushing hot stinky air out of that trap

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10 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

The Stinger is a Kia. Nuff said. RWD is not the holy grail.

Funny, neither is singling out an entire brand just because it's not "your" brand. 

FWD Buick or RWD Kia.. Hmmmm 

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52 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Funny, neither is singling out an entire brand just because it's not "your" brand. 

FWD Buick or RWD Kia.. Hmmmm 

Or a car like the A4 or Stinger...or a car like the Regal...kind of like Aubrey Plaza whom I liked in the other thread vs. the grouchy and dowdy lady who takes your money at the DMV. 

Lincoln so owns the segment with the Aviator...and the new Navi is fantastic. 

1 hour ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

 

BTW.. where is your Stinger, or Chevy SS.. hell.. used Charger? If U're gonna defend RWD at least show pics of yours.. otherwise U are just pushing hot stinky air out of that trap

Reality has little bearing on most of our discussions here. Stop trying to confuse the matter. 

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1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

Funny, neither is singling out an entire brand just because it's not "your" brand. 

FWD Buick or RWD Kia.. Hmmmm 

Well I single it out because its been my experience that everyone I know who has a Kia/Hyun has eventually had a POS that need to be towed to a shop. I don't like their derivative styling.. I don't like where they come from.. I don;t see anything compelling about them. I always laugh my ass off when people act as if a company that has been here for 33 years has suddenly accomplished something because they are building cars that don't look like they are from a third world country anymore. Well guess what??? It isn't hard to buy a better engineered car, tear it down, and build it similar so as to avoid infringement suits. Its also not hard to steal designs and augment them either. Fukk Hyundai.. they lost my respect years ago.. but when they did this.. there was no more redemption possible.

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44 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

Well I single it out because its been my experience that everyone I know who has a Kia/Hyun has eventually had a POS that need to be towed to a shop. I don't like their derivative styling.. I don't like where they come from.. I don;t see anything compelling about them. I always laugh my ass off when people act as if a company that has been here for 33 years has suddenly accomplished something because they are building cars that don't look like they are from a third world country anymore. Well guess what??? It isn't hard to buy a better engineered car, tear it down, and build it similar so as to avoid infringement suits. Its also not hard to steal designs and augment them either. Fukk Hyundai.. they lost my respect years ago.. but when they did this.. there was no more redemption possible.

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Much as I like the Stinger...parked a relatives Jaguar next to one in a swanky part of Fort Lauderdale...if the Stinger was any more British it would run on tea and crumpets rather than Petrol.

The one somewhat unique car they build the Veloster seems to have been drawn by Pablo Picasso on meth.

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20 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Will read both reviews but as is....would not even darken the door of my local Buick dealer for a test drive with the Stinger on the market. 

Open my mind and convince me....

Go to the Genesis dealer and check out the more refined (than the stinger) G70

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22 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Go to the Genesis dealer and check out the more refined (than the stinger) G70

I am starting to like this car (G70). Saw one in Columbus the other day and started feeling the goose-bumpish stuff I normally only feel for Pontiac GTO and Mazda Miata level cars...

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19 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

I think the Genesis series of cars look phenomenal. I would absolutely drive one. 

No kidding, right....!

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19 hours ago, dfelt said:

Lincoln Aviator, Nice Old Retro CUV.

I like XT6 better. My visual choice. Have to drive both to compare for physical preference, but the inside dash is retro :puke: to me.

Guys, I think he's thinking of this Aviator

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41 minutes ago, William Maley said:

Guys, I think he's thinking of this Aviator

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Holy Sch!%% Sherlock...when you cast shade....you don't eff around. I am glad I am not your wife....I would hate to be in a marital dispute with you. Best come back in twelve years on C and G.

 

Has anyone ever thought that maybe by accepting sub par products from carmakers we enable mediocrity? in 1970...we would not have accepted a badge engineered Opel/Peugeot for a Buick....or a Wreath and Crest slapped on a Pontiac Safari wagon for a Cadillac....but if we accept the GS and the XT6 that is kind of what we are doing.

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On 1/31/2019 at 9:24 AM, Drew Dowdell said:

Do you think you might consider this an Audi "lite"?

wow, the Regal GS is just more of a 2019 version of front wheel drive something GM may have put out in 2001, 2002.

 

So much potential here, but it needs more work and a real performance powertrain to be anything other than what lots of reviews have said, its just a tarted up puff cruiser.  It doesn't make it a bad car its just not hardly much more evolved than say an SSE or something like that.

The 2.0 is a better drive, especially just in front drive, so they should make "Regal Sport Touring" with the GS body work, hot looks, normal AGR seats from Europe and 2.0 engine.  If they ever take the new Cadillac 2.0 and tune it for 300hp, that would be a riot to drop in this chassis.  the new Cadillac 2.0 right now is down on power but it actually revs quickly and is smooth, not that the current 2.0 isn't its just that GM actually did improve the new engine in that regard.  Sport Touring wagon would be a great choice to have also.

 

https://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/topic/91155-driven-2018-buick-regal-sportback-gs-36-awd-and-regal-tourx-essence-20t-awd/

 

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Sport touring wagon is an idea I can get behind.

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Lolololoi oohhhhh if Opel was so American why did GM never make any money off of it and sell it off?

Eff Opel. Eff it. It's no longer a real GM, and that's why it's an awful Buick, and the Lacrosse with decent deals is the better car, more luxo in every way, more car and more better and also made in America...till it's not. No kraut assembled that car, and Chinese buyers love American brands, that's why the Lacrosse prints money there. 

For the same money I would get the Lax over the Stinger. But for the same money I would get the Stinger over the Regal GS. Therefores this is a tautology. Its true cos it's true. Simple math. 2+2....-2= 0+2

 

Da real GM is da real GM and deep GM going away.

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17 hours ago, regfootball said:

wow, the Regal GS is just more of a 2019 version of front wheel drive something GM may have put out in 2001, 2002.

 

So much potential here, but it needs more work and a real performance powertrain to be anything other than what lots of reviews have said, its just a tarted up puff cruiser.  It doesn't make it a bad car its just not hardly much more evolved than say an SSE or something like that.

The 2.0 is a better drive, especially just in front drive, so they should make "Regal Sport Touring" with the GS body work, hot looks, normal AGR seats from Europe and 2.0 engine.  If they ever take the new Cadillac 2.0 and tune it for 300hp, that would be a riot to drop in this chassis.  the new Cadillac 2.0 right now is down on power but it actually revs quickly and is smooth, not that the current 2.0 isn't its just that GM actually did improve the new engine in that regard.  Sport Touring wagon would be a great choice to have also.

 

https://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/topic/91155-driven-2018-buick-regal-sportback-gs-36-awd-and-regal-tourx-essence-20t-awd/

 

SSEi  Bonneville was a better looking car...more American...probably better fuel economy real world...I would hazard a guess more fun to drive. We have lost ground.

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On 2/1/2019 at 1:45 PM, regfootball said:

wow, the Regal GS is just more of a 2019 version of front wheel drive something GM may have put out in 2001, 2002.

So much potential here, but it needs more work and a real performance powertrain to be anything other than what lots of reviews have said, its just a tarted up puff cruiser.  It doesn't make it a bad car its just not hardly much more evolved than say an SSE or something like that.

The 2.0 is a better drive, especially just in front drive, so they should make "Regal Sport Touring" with the GS body work, hot looks, normal AGR seats from Europe and 2.0 engine.  If they ever take the new Cadillac 2.0 and tune it for 300hp, that would be a riot to drop in this chassis.  the new Cadillac 2.0 right now is down on power but it actually revs quickly and is smooth, not that the current 2.0 isn't its just that GM actually did improve the new engine in that regard.  Sport Touring wagon would be a great choice to have also.

 

https://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/topic/91155-driven-2018-buick-regal-sportback-gs-36-awd-and-regal-tourx-essence-20t-awd/

 

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I'm kind of feeling this way as my week goes on with the Regal GS. I do like the various improvements Buick has made, but I feel they could have done. Its a great grand tourer, but a sports sedan that Buick is trying to present... Not quite so much.

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32 minutes ago, William Maley said:

I'm kind of feeling this way as my week goes on with the Regal GS. I do like the various improvements Buick has made, but I feel they could have done. Its a great grand tourer, but a sports sedan that Buick is trying to present... Not quite so much.

Is it a case of us wanting it to BE a sports sedan. Mistaken identity, perhaps.

As per your assesment, its a great grand tourer, and perhaps THAT is what Buick was aiming for to begin with yet us, WE wanted it to be a sports sedan.

Kinda like the way we thought the Ford Fusion Sport would be an Audi S4 competitor JUST because we saw AWD, turbo V6 and "Sport" nomenclature on it...but alas the Fusion Sport makes for a poor sports sedan but an excellent V6 turbo, family, hauling, family sedan. And we chastized it for being a poor sports sedan yet we failed to praise it for what it reaaly is. A V6 family sedan.

In derfense of Ford, Ford NEVER made that connection, we did. Ford just slapped on "Sport" on it and WE went  with the wild fantasy thoughts.

Does Buick market this as a sports sedan? I do not know this answer. But maybe Buick just wants the Regal GS JUST to be a grand tourer.  Its kinda like I mean, all these years and I thought the Toyobarus had a Toyota 4 cylinder under the hood...for real. 

Just a thought that I had.

 

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On 1/31/2019 at 8:53 PM, Cmicasa the Great said:

The Regal is hands down better looking than the A4. The A4 is plain boring VW-ish. Standard jelly bean. The performance of the S4 beats the Regal GS, but not the A4.

The Stinger is a Kia. Nuff said. RWD is not the holy grail.

XT6 looks better than the Aviator. The Aviator does triumph it in terms of cushy, and damn sure power. That said.. I like how because Lincoln, after the swing and miss MKT, MKC, MKX (Nauti), anc Continental, is suddenly beating out Cadillac because of a long over due replacement to the Navigator and platform mate to the Explorer. The current Escalade still comes off as more luxo and commanding with a new one on the way on less than a year,,, done

“The Stinger is a Kia”. With all due respect, you are way underestimating the Stinger. At least Kia will sell a RWD four door with some balls to it, IN A CUV DOMINANT MARKET, while GM pulled their best RWD sport sedan (the SS, which I love btw) because well, they never really gave it a fair shot in the first place. The point is further evidenced that there is no planned replacement for it (the SS) either, despite the possession of a viable RWD platform to on which to create one so your “GM chooses to bring new platforms to the market and kill old ones that have been around for 10 years” argument. Well, where is it? Also, if they like dumping 10 year old platforms, then explain the Cascadia and every other Buick that has been borrowed from the now defunct Opel? I get that you’re a huge GM fan and there are plenty of GM cars and trucks that I do like but they have laid some rotten eggs as well as having held on to old ness for longer than need be. Every car company has done it from where I stand. Just laying out some reality here.

 

I won’t even get into the XT6. Seriously, I never get in one of those.

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I think Kia markets the Stinger as a Grand Tourer, the G70 has a tighter suspension and is presented as a sport sedan by Genesis.

 

 

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