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2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

These newer convertibles are CUV, not SUV surreal.  Get your nomenclature straight.  Do I have to quote you again in crayon?

Good grief. You seriously have a reading comprehension problem. It is a problem whether it is a CUV or an SUV so get your nomenclature straight before trolling as usual. The same issues exist (where do you stash removal top, what happens to cargo room when it’s just a retractable top, etc) so quit trying to split hairs where there aren’t any and actually read and properly comprehend what I’m saying before pulling your little troll act again. 

 

The key part of all this blu is that I am merely stating my opinion that overall, convertible SUVs and CUVs are pretty damn pointless, Jeep Wrangler not withstanding.

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3 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

Good grief. You seriously have a reading comprehension problem. It is a problem whether it is a CUV or an SUV so get your nomenclature straight before trolling as usual. The same issues exist (where do you stash removal top, what happens to cargo room when it’s just a retractable top, etc) so quit trying to split hairs where there aren’t any and actually read and properly comprehend what I’m saying before pulling your little troll act again. 

 

The key part of all this blu is that I am merely stating my opinion that overall, convertible SUVs and CUVs are pretty damn pointless, Jeep Wrangler not withstanding.

I used to think it was cool but the more I look at the Dakota Convertible Pickup truck that Dodge made in limited production, the more I realized what a waste of resources they spent.

I bet most of those trucks had to be sold at a loss.

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4 hours ago, dfelt said:

I used to think it was cool but the more I look at the Dakota Convertible Pickup truck that Dodge made in limited production, the more I realized what a waste of resources they spent.

I bet most of those trucks had to be sold at a loss.

We get it.  You hate convertibles, or any open top vehicle.  Because "the sun".  But there are others who enjoy them.  The Dakota convertible was built during a time when Chrysler Corporation spearheaded an industry-wide convertible renaissance.  And they sold a lot of them, company-wide, for many years.  They burst the convertible market wide open and let some fresh air in.

Surreal, a convertible has ALWAYS been a trade-off.  They are for people who willingly take the trade in practicality for the freedom of open-air driving.  This T-Roc continues a very long Volkswagen tradition of catering to these individuals... who are willing to sacrifice ultimate practicality for enjoyable motoring.

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2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

  This T-Roc continues a very long Volkswagen tradition of catering to these individuals... who are willing to sacrifice ultimate practicality for enjoyable motoring.

Except... not in the U.S. 

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5 hours ago, ocnblu said:

We get it.  You hate convertibles, or any open top vehicle.  Because "the sun".  But there are others who enjoy them.  The Dakota convertible was built during a time when Chrysler Corporation spearheaded an industry-wide convertible renaissance.  And they sold a lot of them, company-wide, for many years.  They burst the convertible market wide open and let some fresh air in.

Surreal, a convertible has ALWAYS been a trade-off.  They are for people who willingly take the trade in practicality for the freedom of open-air driving.  This T-Roc continues a very long Volkswagen tradition of catering to these individuals... who are willing to sacrifice ultimate practicality for enjoyable motoring.

When you have actually read what I said and why I said it, then we can talk. Until then, like Drew said, this isn’t even for the US so you’re just spouting off about nothing as usual. 

 

For the record, this is a proper convertible and this is what you trade practicality for.

 

 

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5 hours ago, ocnblu said:

We get it.  You hate convertibles, or any open top vehicle.  Because "the sun".  But there are others who enjoy them.  The Dakota convertible was built during a time when Chrysler Corporation spearheaded an industry-wide convertible renaissance.  And they sold a lot of them, company-wide, for many years.  They burst the convertible market wide open and let some fresh air in.

Surreal, a convertible has ALWAYS been a trade-off.  They are for people who willingly take the trade in practicality for the freedom of open-air driving.  This T-Roc continues a very long Volkswagen tradition of catering to these individuals... who are willing to sacrifice ultimate practicality for enjoyable motoring.

Assumption is what you made and the first 3 letters is what a person is when they make those Assumption's about a person.

I DO NOT hate convertibles or any open top auto and just because I have a Silicon nose bridge and my cheeks from my face now cover my nose due to cancer, I still do not hate them or being out in the sun. 

I am more cautous about being in the sun, but there is really only ever been a real convertible and that was built in the early years when size did not matter and you could have a real convertible and @balthazar has shown us many lovely REAL convertibles.

The only one I really love and was driven by the one man I have always drawn inspiration from Arnold Schwarzenegger is this:

1957 Cadillac Convertible that he has owned since he bought it.

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Second most lovely convertible is the Cadillac Convertible Eldorado he drove in his 1985 movie Commando:

1976 Cadillac Eldorado

Even though it was FWD.

Course I have always had a soft spot for this lovely Cadillac Convertible:

62 series Cadillac Eldorado Convertible.

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In regards to the Dakota pickup truck convertible, it was a cool concept poorly executed and they could have done much better if they wanted.

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4 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Assumption is what you made and the first 3 letters is what a person is when they make those Assumption's about a person.

I DO NOT hate convertibles or any open top auto and just because I have a Silicon nose bridge and my cheeks from my face now cover my nose due to cancer, I still do not hate them or being out in the sun. 

I am more cautous about being in the sun, but there is really only ever been a real convertible and that was built in the early years when size did not matter and you could have a real convertible and @balthazar has shown us many lovely REAL convertibles.

The only one I really love and was driven by the one man I have always drawn inspiration from Arnold Schwarzenegger is this:

1957 Cadillac Convertible that he has owned since he bought it.

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Second most lovely convertible is the Cadillac Convertible Eldorado he drove in his 1985 movie Commando:

1976 Cadillac Eldorado

Even though it was FWD.

Course I have always had a soft spot for this lovely Cadillac Convertible:

62 series Cadillac Eldorado Convertible.

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In regards to the Dakota pickup truck convertible, it was a cool concept poorly executed and they could have done much better if they wanted.

Exactly my point. Not every damn thing out there needs a drop top and sure as hell not a CUV. 

 

Oh and that last pic is the convertible I would have only in black with a white ragtop and red leather interior. ‘59 please. 

5 hours ago, ocnblu said:

We get it.  You hate convertibles, or any open top vehicle.  Because "the sun".  But there are others who enjoy them.  The Dakota convertible was built during a time when Chrysler Corporation spearheaded an industry-wide convertible renaissance.  And they sold a lot of them, company-wide, for many years.  They burst the convertible market wide open and let some fresh air in.

Surreal, a convertible has ALWAYS been a trade-off.  They are for people who willingly take the trade in practicality for the freedom of open-air driving.  This T-Roc continues a very long Volkswagen tradition of catering to these individuals... who are willing to sacrifice ultimate practicality for enjoyable motoring.

Wildly popular? I know you are not talking about the Dakota Convertible. From an article that took all of eight seconds to find. 

“A scant 2842 adventurous souls took Dodge up on its top-down Dakota offer that year. For 1990, even with the addition of four-cylinder trucks and the color blue to the paint options, sales fell to just 909.”

 

Source (and proving how not everything needs or should have a drop top). 

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2018/06/27/1989-91-dodge-dakota-sport-convertible

 

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3 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

When you have actually read what I said and why I said it, then we can talk. Until then, like Drew said, this isn’t even for the US so you’re just spouting off about nothing as usual. 

 

For the record, this is a proper convertible and this is what you trade practicality for.

 

 

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I am so thinking of getting another Miata. 

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13 hours ago, ocnblu said:

they sold a lot of them, company-wide

 

8 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

Wildly popular? I know you are not talking about the Dakota Convertible

And you talk about others' READING COMPREHENSION?  :roflmao:

8 hours ago, dfelt said:

he has owned since he bought it

Makes perfect sense

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17 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

 

And you talk about others' READING COMPREHENSION?  :roflmao:

Makes perfect sense

So no real response? You brought up the Dakota like it was somehow popular because Chrysler had other popular convertibles (outside of the LeBaron, you are shooting blanks there too). You pretty much proved my point about convertible as it applies to SUVs and apparently pick up trucks. Whatever success they may have had with convertibles did not carry over to the Dakota because there was NO DEMAND FOR IT. Get it now? No lack of comprehension at all because it was you who failed to read what I saying in the first damn place. Stop deflecting and stop acting you don’t know what I was saying. 

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If you don't stop downvoting me you will receive a wet willy, and it won't be too pleasant.

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2 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

If you don't stop downvoting me you will receive a wet willy, and it won't be too pleasant.

Wet willy yourself junior. Say something worth upvoting next time instead of your normal trolling nonsense and that might change. 

 

And thanks for proving me right about convertibles and where they belong and don’t belong. 

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Logical progression.  Case closed.  Call the Ministry Of Silly Walks, we are done!  😛

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3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Logical progression.  Case closed.  Call the Ministry Of Silly Walks, we are done!  😛

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I have never seen a Beetle convertible in Denim blue, and i own a denim blue Beetle R. Neat pic!

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58 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I have never seen a Beetle convertible in Denim blue, and i own a denim blue Beetle R. Neat pic!

 

4 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Logical progression.  Case closed.  Call the Ministry Of Silly Walks, we are done!  😛

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Better open that case back up because the three CARS above were a two doors while the T-Roc is a four door CUV that gets its cargo space and doors cut in half. Are you paying attention yet or do you still want to make up irrelevant arguments and comparisons to satisfy you urge to troll?

 Again, feel free to reference the “success” of similar attempts at chopping up a CUV. I’m sure Nissan and Land Rover have some words about that. 

 

Seriously, next time pay attention to what was said from the beginning and you can avoid the embarrassment of being wrong  

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I’m sorry @ocnblu but saying this is a natural progression for VW aid like saying the Nissan 370Z convertible was a natural progression to the Murano convertible. Feel free to reference the Dakota convertible if you wish to save yourself the crayon expense. 

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On 8/14/2019 at 5:17 PM, dfelt said:

As one that has lived in the sun but after skin cancer and a rebuild of my nose, now uses hats heavily and prefers to stay out of the sun. Pass on this convertible.

Yeah, hate to say it- sun it a bit strong now.

 

It is a nice looking ride though.....

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