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Seems Amazon is pushing big into the Auto Industry as they show off their eco system of Alexa with GM, Rivian and FCA making Alexa enabled standard in all the auto's for 2020 and moving forward.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/06/amazon-ces-alexa-rivian-gm-fca/

Pretty good read, seems you can pay for gas at exxon / mobile gas stations with saying Alexa pay for gas when in a gas station.

Amazon will allow access to a next gen fire kindle in your auto for use in reading books.

GM showed off a new build tool that will allow potential buyers to build the auto of their dreams, go to the dealer and then look at auto's that most closely match their dream auto. This is in use by Audi where Audi increased the average transaction price in 2019 by $1,200.

Seems plenty of Amazon cool tech is coming to an auto near you soon.

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I question whether Fiskar can survive financially at that price tier, but if buyers bite, this potentially strong-arms all other EV CUVs in pricing.

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7 minutes ago, balthazar said:

I question whether Fiskar can survive financially at that price tier, but if buyers bite, this potentially strong-arms all other EV CUVs in pricing.

Agree, it will be interesting to see if Fisker can survive. They have much less money than Rivian, not really sure if anyone else other than Saudi Arabia will fund them once they burn through their initial Billion dollars of investments.

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CES is going into full swing and boy are there some very cool auto stuff being announced.

Sony has shown off their first electric car concept at the show and to quote them: Sony claims the car is capable of delivering 400kW (536hp) of power through an all-wheel-drive system powered by two electric motors.  This allows 0-100km/h (0-62mph) acceleration of 4.8 seconds and a top speed of 240km/h (149mph).

https://electrek.co/2020/01/06/okay-so-even-sony-is-showing-off-ev-concepts-now/

It gives me a rip off of Porsche in the style.

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Very cool new Vauxhall Electric Corsa and the digs at the US and especially big Oil is too funny. Should get @ocnblu goat ;) 

 

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Seems the Sunnyvale California Ford location has over 100 reservations for the new Mach-e with 80% of them opting for the extended range battery, 300 miles range.

https://electrek.co/2020/01/02/fords-dealership-claims-100-orders-for-mustang-mach-e-in-teslas-backyard/

Wish they would take the Mach-e on a tour of dealerships and let more people test fit in it and check it out.

Story above says there is equal interests in the Tesla Y and Mach-e as consumers are wanting the CUVs over cars.

Seems even Motorcycles are coming in all types of WELL ENDOWED flavors at CES.

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https://electrek.co/2020/01/03/curtiss-hades-electric-motorcycle-redesign/

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11 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Seems the Sunnyvale California Ford location has over 100 reservations for the new Mach-e with 80% of them opting for the extended range battery, 300 miles range.

https://electrek.co/2020/01/02/fords-dealership-claims-100-orders-for-mustang-mach-e-in-teslas-backyard/

Wish they would take the Mach-e on a tour of dealerships and let more people test fit in it and check it out.

Story above says there is equal interests in the Tesla Y and Mach-e as consumers are wanting the CUVs over cars.

 

 

Makes sense in Sunnyvale, though..heart of Silicon Valley.   I bet it's a different story at rural Ford dealers in East Dullfield, Indiana or Shitstain, Alabama.. 

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Batteries, Batteries, Batteries, that is the big news at CES this year. Seems Solid State is finally here to make a big difference. First is the company ProLogium from Taipei. They showed off their new Solid state batteries that are 56% denser power than traditional Lithium batteries without having the fire issues of current EV batteries.

Some very cool videos of how strong these new batteries are even when cut up.

 

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ces-2020-prologiums-solid-state-battery-for-two-wheeled-vehicle-favored-by-european-and-japanese-manufacturers-300980805.html

http://www.prologium.com/

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/ces-2020-prologium-s-solid-state-battery-for-two-wheeled-vehicle-favored-by-european-and-japanese-manufacturers-1028792982

Fisker has also finally delivered their production Solid State Battery pack for EVs at the 2020 CES.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/09/fisker-emotion-ev-solid-state-battery-ces/

 

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Nissan showed off their Global EV platform at CES this past week. Great thing about this is it is a complete all new platform, first in the last 10 years for Nissan and will be shared with Renault and Mitsubishi. Base Platform is a 300 mile electric crossover.

There will be three types off this, EV, Motor driven Hybrid and Engine & Motor driven Hybrid.

Nissan Note e-Power hybrid

Interesting details to read, check it out here: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1126757_nissan-evs-will-share-platform-with-infiniti-renault-mitsubishi

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Seems GM is wanting to drive BOLT Leases, so they have up to $10,000 off a fully loaded Bolt for a monthly Lease of $169 a month, $2,219 due at signing.

The $10,000 breaks down as follows: $8,500 discount for all customers, $1,500 loyalty bonus or $1,500 conquest bonus.

According to the story, seems some dealerships in Oregon, California and Florida have put additional money on the hood withBolt Premiers having a final Lease price below $30,000 for a $45,000 fully loaded EV. Seems reports are up that people are finding the Bolt LT below $24,000.

https://ww.electrek.co/2020/01/14/chevy-is-offering-10000-lease-discounts-on-bolt-ev/

Great deals if your wanting a decent daily driver for work / errands at a low price.

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Future meets past in the Lightyear One, an EV with a 60kWh battery pack and solar panel roof that gets 450 miles of range for a 4 Door Sedan.

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https://ww.electrek.co/2020/01/14/lightyear-one-first-look/

This 450 Mile range EV is AWD with 4 independant in-wheel hub motors, a .2 drag coefficient, a Aluminum / Carbon fiber body and frame. Unlike the Solar panel on the Nissan Leaf that draws barely enough power to power a Casio Calculator per the story, the hood and long roof to the rear generates 1kW of power for use by the auto.

Gotta love the rear wheel covers bringing back auto's of Yore. Has the latest approved side video cameras rather than traditional mirrors that cause drag.

If you do not take into account the Solar panels, this company has gotten an impressive 7.5 miles per kWh, incredible efficiency.

The biggest draw back is that people are hesitant to drop large money on an EV and this one can be yours for a base price of $165,000.

Seems I can hear Crickets right now.

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16 hours ago, dfelt said:

Seems GM is wanting to drive BOLT Leases, so they have up to $10,000 off a fully loaded Bolt for a monthly Lease of $169 a month, $2,219 due at signing.

The $10,000 breaks down as follows: $8,500 discount for all customers, $1,500 loyalty bonus or $1,500 conquest bonus.

According to the story, seems some dealerships in Oregon, California and Florida have put additional money on the hood withBolt Premiers having a final Lease price below $30,000 for a $45,000 fully loaded EV. Seems reports are up that people are finding the Bolt LT below $24,000.

https://ww.electrek.co/2020/01/14/chevy-is-offering-10000-lease-discounts-on-bolt-ev/

Great deals if your wanting a decent daily driver for work / errands at a low price.

For that little money, I would absolutely jump on this if I had a garage and it was wired for a charger. 

Shet, that's a good deal.

I can't click that link but if for me to do that, it would also have to be 12,000-15,000 miles/yr. Those low-mile leases of 8,000-10,000 miles wouldn't cut it. 

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28 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

For that little money, I would absolutely jump on this if I had a garage and it was wired for a charger. 

Shet, that's a good deal.

I can't click that link but if for me to do that, it would also have to be 12,000-15,000 miles/yr. Those low-mile leases of 8,000-10,000 miles wouldn't cut it. 

Agree that it is a great program, sadly 10,000 miles is not enough for me either. I went and built a Premier with 15,000 miles and the cost jumped to $366 a month.

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Oh dang, unfortunately that instantly becomes unattractive. The efficiency of the vehicle makes $166/month w/ $2200 down very attractive but more than doubling the monthly payment makes it not so pretty. Oh, and another $400 down... 

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I like this and agree that these 5 trucks will challenge Tesla and it will be interesting to see who wins.

 

Good write up on the EVs that go on sale in 2020 and their range.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/every-electric-car-ev-range-audi-chevy-tesla/

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14 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Apparently Tesla is under a 500,000 vehicle NHTSA investigation for sudden acceleration.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-could-face-nhtsa-probe-173658343.html

No one ever said making auto's was easy! :P 

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14 minutes ago, dfelt said:

No one ever said making auto's was easy! :P 

Proper use of apostrophes is also extremely difficult.

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On 1/17/2020 at 6:49 PM, balthazar said:

Apparently Tesla is under a 500,000 vehicle NHTSA investigation for sudden acceleration.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-could-face-nhtsa-probe-173658343.html

Beyond ludicrous mode...

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Gotta Love this EV Conversion of a 1969 Dodge Truck.

 

3 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Very cool read and I have to agree that many issues people have before they buy do go away once they have their EV and change a few habits on how they charge, when and use. Over all, excited to see EVs finally move off 1% once we have more options out there.

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^ They have moved off 1%!  They're at 2%.
EDIT :: Oh that's right; sales declined last year. But don't worry! EVs will still be 50% of the market by 2025!
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Those 2 towns are 120 miles apart.
My assumption is they're walking that entire way... with nothing.
And look- the guy just dropped his cell phone.

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5 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Article just barely brushes over the #1 issue- purchase price, quickly dismissing it with "there may be an initial price premium". Ya think? And what of depreciation- that albatross somehow limited only to IC vehicles?
These are the lion's share of the cost to own an EV, and it's patently ignored here. It's actually more likely it's MORE expensive than you think.

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