Jump to content

Alternative Fuels & Propulsion RANDOM


Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, ykX said:

Personally, I don't expect huge changes in the next 5 years.

Agreed, the market share change is barely moving, plus a lot of the upcoming BE's are uber-expensive / super low volume. I think the picture won't be significantly different for at least 10 years (merely a slow creep).

  • Upvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 3.4k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Haha, while ignoring the elephant in the room... CALIFORNIA... the biggest whiny brat in the union.

So, you're not wrong, but just wanted to zoom in a bit for more detail.... Storms do happen, no grid is ever 100%.  I lose power shockingly often for being only ~10 miles from a downtown metro ar

Alas, I think that era is long past...GM seems more content to coast on mediocrity and genericism in design these days.  

Posted Images

Some good info on the Hummer SUV.

https://www.motortrend.com/651d84cf-ac24-4c26-a0cf-fe8b6874e1e6

Wish GM had these on youtube, but this is a good detail on the SUV.

Some good Info GM is releasing on comparison.

image.png

image.png

Link to post
Share on other sites

Very Cool news, the Very FIRST Hummer EV Truck sold on March 27th at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale auction for $2.5 million. The auction house waved all fees, the full amount will go to the Tunnel to Towers Foundation that builds special need homes for first responders who were injured in 9/11.

Very cool indeed.

GMC HUMMER EV Edition 1 Raises $2.5 Million for Tunnel to Towers Foundation at Barrett-Jackson Auction

Additional info GM released today about the HUMMER EV SUV.

2024 GMC HUMMER EV SUV Offers New Tactical Tech

Additional highlights:

  • Interdependent body/battery structure that supports a unique, double-stacked battery pack
  • An available three-motor Ultium Drive system that delivers up to 830 horsepower and up to 11,500 lb-ft of torque — enough power for super-fast 0-60-mph sprints in approximately 3.5 seconds with available Watts To Freedom5 (based on GM estimates)
  • New satellite-rendered trail mapping power allows drivers to discover and navigate off-road trails, while monitoring their vehicle’s energy consumption in real time, with community-based energy forecast through their myGMC app1
  • New available Power Station generator2 that enables 19.2kW AC charging, generator functionality (120v/25A/3kW) and ability to charge other EVs (240v/25A/6kW)
  • Great degree of customization via buttons on the center stack, and nearly 200 accessories will be available for HUMMER EV
  • Master of maneuverability, with nearly 9-inch less wheelbase than HUMMER EV Pickup, giving it expected best-in-class off-road proportions, with greater departure and breakover angles and a tighter turning circle of only 35.4 feet (10.8 meters) with 4 Wheel Steer
  • An immersive experience that puts the driver at the center of every moment, including customizable user experience features and an open-air driving experience, with the standard Infinity Roof with removable Sky Panels and I-Bar

image.png

I have to say I can actually see the Crab Walk mode and the Tight Turning radius as big advantages especially in the city.

Link to post
Share on other sites

So much goodness today for EVs, the future looks BRIGHT!!!

2024-GMC-HUMMER-EV-SUV-014.jpg

2024-GMC-HUMMER-EV-SUV-011 (1).jpg

Honestly, we are gonna need these types of auto's if we do not fix our roads as the potholes are getting crazy bad.

  • Haha 1
  • Upvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, ykX said:

Personally, I would be actually interested in an efficient EV that I can use as a daily commuter and that will be capable to do at least light off-roading, and will be good in the snow.  I have a fun car for the summer and wouldn't mind something a little fun for the winter.  However, at this point of time there is no affordable EVs that can do that.  Doesn't look like anything like that will be on the market any time soon either. 

10 years is a long time.  

So is 5.  

Chevrolet will give us more EVs after the EUV.  VW too will have something else after the id4.   The economies of scale will kick in.  

 Since Honda is gonna use GM's EV platform, battery and powertrain, we will see what Honda will do with that and how they will price them.  

 So far, toys for the rich that seem to be worth a try. I agree.   Only but a few affordable, but not really desirable or even usable(for me at least and Im assuming for your needs too) 

 

 

8 hours ago, ykX said:

Personally, I don't expect huge changes in the next 5 years.  All the new EVs just coming out as 2021-2024 vehicles at this point.

There are quite a few models that Chevrolet has not really told us about.

Corvette it seems, is going EV SUV and EV 4 door sedan on us. And THAT is NEW for April 2021 speculation. True that these are gonna be richboy toys...but its also true that Chevrolet really hasnt mentioned anything about the next gen EVs on Ultium that ARE gonna be affordable.  The EUV is last gen tech...     

 

  • Upvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, David said:

Very Cool news, the Very FIRST Hummer EV Truck sold on March 27th at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale auction for $2.5 million. The auction house waved all fees, the full amount will go to the Tunnel to Towers Foundation that builds special need homes for first responders who were injured in 9/11.

Very cool indeed.

GMC HUMMER EV Edition 1 Raises $2.5 Million for Tunnel to Towers Foundation at Barrett-Jackson Auction

Additional info GM released today about the HUMMER EV SUV.

2024 GMC HUMMER EV SUV Offers New Tactical Tech

Additional highlights:

  • Interdependent body/battery structure that supports a unique, double-stacked battery pack
  • An available three-motor Ultium Drive system that delivers up to 830 horsepower and up to 11,500 lb-ft of torque — enough power for super-fast 0-60-mph sprints in approximately 3.5 seconds with available Watts To Freedom5 (based on GM estimates)
  • New satellite-rendered trail mapping power allows drivers to discover and navigate off-road trails, while monitoring their vehicle’s energy consumption in real time, with community-based energy forecast through their myGMC app1
  • New available Power Station generator2 that enables 19.2kW AC charging, generator functionality (120v/25A/3kW) and ability to charge other EVs (240v/25A/6kW)
  • Great degree of customization via buttons on the center stack, and nearly 200 accessories will be available for HUMMER EV
  • Master of maneuverability, with nearly 9-inch less wheelbase than HUMMER EV Pickup, giving it expected best-in-class off-road proportions, with greater departure and breakover angles and a tighter turning circle of only 35.4 feet (10.8 meters) with 4 Wheel Steer
  • An immersive experience that puts the driver at the center of every moment, including customizable user experience features and an open-air driving experience, with the standard Infinity Roof with removable Sky Panels and I-Bar

image.png

I have to say I can actually see the Crab Walk mode and the Tight Turning radius as big advantages especially in the city.

Crab walk mode IS awesome. But the EV Hummer is wiiiiiiide. If it be less wide, it wouldnt NEED crab walk in an urban setting...

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Crab walk mode IS awesome. But the EV Hummer is wiiiiiiide. If it be less wide, it wouldnt NEED crab walk in an urban setting...

Have ya seen Detroits roads? Everyone Needs Crab Walk mode to just avoid the Honda Size Pot Holes! :P 

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, David said:

Have ya seen Detroits roads? Everyone Needs Crab Walk mode to just avoid the Honda Size Pot Holes! :P 

There is only ONE place on planet Earth that potholes are worse than Detroit's.  THAT would be Montreal...

Crabwalk wont help us.  The EV Hummer wont help us.  We dont need military level off-roading vehicles. We need religious efforts (miracles) to avoid potholes.  We need religious interventions to survive them. 

 

 

  • Haha 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

There is only ONE place on planet Earth that potholes are worse than Detroit's.  THAT would be Montreal...

Crabwalk wont help us.  The EV Hummer wont help us.  We dont need military level off-roading vehicles. We need religious efforts (miracles) to avoid potholes.  We need religious interventions to survive them. 

 

 

Cleveland is pretty bad in places also... 

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think all big cities that have a lot of traffic and that experience real winters have really bad roads.  NYC is not much better, maybe even worse.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe all those Snowbelt cities should use something else other than the current road salt to de-ice their roads and spend more on proper road maintenance.

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

Maybe all those Snowbelt cities should use something else other than the current road salt to de-ice their roads and spend more on proper road maintenance.

Its not the salt that causes potholes.  The salt just corrodies the cars.

The potholes are caused by the natural freezing and thawing process of the changing of the seasons. 

The earth moves beneath us, naturally.  Little cracks form in the pavements. Roads or sidewalks. The trucks and cars rolling on the roads speed up the cracking process. Especially heavy transport trucks. Water gets in between these cracks. Water then freezes and breaks the concrete into potholes. Thawing occurs sometime during the winter and/or spring. Water builds up. Freezes up again and further damage is done.  

Proper road maintenance is expensive.  Sometimes the budget is not directed towards proper maintenance if any at all.  Half-assed repair work is mostly made only patching up the mess only to have a BIGGER pothole the next season where the patchwork was made. With additional other potholes near the one that was supposed to be fixed. 

  Couple that with corrupt paving companies that charge the city (Montreal) huuuuge amounts of money to pave new roads or patch work or repaving, but NOT using the PROPER concrete mixture engineered for freezing and thawing cycles and you get the mess  Montreal is in. 

But it aint the salt.

Its the corrupt system that Quebec employs that enables corrupt contractors to phoque the citizens by using sub-quality materials in the first place. 

Its the lack of a proper maintenance routine. 

And sometimes its the lack of funding.  

 

 

 

 

  • Upvote 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

EDIT:

CORRECTION:

@riviera74

I re-read what you wanted to say. I misrepresented your words. You said that you wanted municipalities and state/provincial governments to spend LESS money on salt de-icing the roads for the monies spent on PROPER road maintenance.  As where I initially understood that you meant that salt causes the bad stuff to happen on the roads.  I finally understood what you meant...

However, REGARDLESS where the money (savings) comes from...  my statements dont change in that 

Its the corrupt system that Quebec employs that enables corrupt contractors to phoque the citizens by using sub-quality materials in the first place. 

Its the lack of a proper maintenance routine. 

And sometimes its the lack of funding because road work new or old is expensive and (Quebec) has other, projects in mind where monies were and are spent. Uselessly or out of more important issues.   Like separation from Canada(not anymore), COVID relief funds and the like.  

But Id like to say that proper roads are in the  NECESSARY category.   But what do I know...    

Link to post
Share on other sites

Worthy of our current discussion on pot holes.

Pothole Prevention - Preventing Potholes Before they Happen (pavementpreservation.org)

Seems many companies know how to fix and prevent the ugly pot holes, but when will the politicians pay for it.

What Causes POTHOLES during Winter & How to Prevent the “Hole” Thing? (maininfrastructure.com)

Interesting research by the swiss on roads that will not create pot holes.

Researchers Are Developing a New Asphalt That Can Repair Cracks Itself (businessinsider.com)

Pretty much use Heavy tar from Canada Tar sands and coat all the roads it would seem. :P 

Cost Of Preventing And Fixing Potholes In 2020 | Limitless Paving & Concrete (limitlesspavingandconcrete.com)

 

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
On 4/5/2021 at 6:10 PM, Robert Hall said:

Don’t think I’ve ever seen ‘wheel torque’ as a spec or comparison point before.  

Me neither, but it sounds akin to 'wheel HP'. I say 'sounds' because it's obviously not... but I think the reason it's there is to give a comparison to BE numbers. IC has numerous TRQ- multiplying gears... and the chart above is eye-opening... and seems to dispel the lofty 'new' numbers (like the Hummer EV's 11,500).
What' REALLY surprising is that the chart (apparently) comes from GM and it really shows what appears to be a huge disadvantage in going BE (for those folk who groove on spec sheets). GM's own DuraMax has 37,000 TRQ vs. Hummer's paltry 11,500?

Seems to be exciting times! ;)
 

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Me neither, but it sounds akin to 'wheel HP'. I say 'sounds' because it's obviously not... but I think the reason it's there is to give a comparison to BE numbers. IC has numerous TRQ- multiplying gears... and the chart above is eye-opening... and seems to dispel the lofty 'new' numbers (like the Hummer EV's 11,500).
What' REALLY surprising is that the chart (apparently) comes from GM and it really shows what appears to be a huge disadvantage in going BE (for those folk who groove on spec sheets). GM's own DuraMax has 37,000 TRQ vs. Hummer's paltry 11,500?

Seems to be exciting times! ;)
 

Gotta start somewhere considering how paltry ICE torque was in the early 1900's. :P 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Seems the Ford Mach-E is moving off the lots showing sales are on pace with early estimates. Q1 Ford reported 6,614 Mach-E sold keeping them on track for 25,000 to 30,000 sales in 2021. Ford reported the Mach-E is currently averaging only 7 days on the dealer lots. 70% is conquest sales from competitors. 

Ford Mustang Mach-E moving quickly off dealer lots, sales on pace with early estimates (greencarreports.com)

Mercedes-Benz has rolled out their platform for the new electric Sprinter line of vans, trucks, Ambulances, eGrocery transporter. Consistent implementation of the electric strategy of Mercedes-Benz Vans: Next generation eSprinter to be built at three plants (mbusa.com)

image.png

This new generation of Sprinter is being focused on three specific markets at first, Europe, USA and Canada.

In additional news leading up to the April 15 reveal of the New EQS EV for the Global market, Mercedes-Benz has shown off the interior of the new luxury EQS sedan.  The EQS: Design for All the Senses (mbusa.com)

Full Details, additional photo's and videos at the link above. They also released details of the power train options in RWD or AWD with the power train developing up to 516 hp / 611 lb-ft of torque, 0-62 of 4.3 seconds and top speed of 130 mph with a 107.8 kWH battery pack.

image.png

  • Upvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Seems Panasonic is betting on being able to produce the new Beer Can size Battery cell for Tesla and other auto companies as the 4680 cell would only require about 500 cells in a battery pack compared to the current 4,000 to 8,000 cells in existing battery packs. This would reduce the complexity of the battery pack, and in essence help to usher in the $25,000 EV and below according to Panasonic.

Panasonic Bets on Tesla ‘Beer Can’ Battery to Unlock $25,000 EVs (msn.com)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Seems South Korea Battery Giant Samsung is the official battery supplier to Rivian with their Li-Ion SDI battery cells.

image.png

At the start the R1T will ship with the standard 135 kWH battery pack good for 300 plus miles. Early 2022 the Max pack 180 kWH battery pack for 400 miles as well as the lite pack of 105 kWH battery pack will join the options. Currently Rivian is beating all rivals with the best battery warranty of 8yrs or 175,000 miles which ever comes first. To quote Rivian on their Warranty for their auto's:

What is the warranty coverage on a new Rivian?

New Vehicle Limited Warranty is included on all new R1S and R1T vehicles purchased from Rivian.

New Vehicle Limited Warranties include:

  • Comprehensive: The cost of all parts and labor necessary for any defective materials are covered for 5 years or 60,000 miles, whichever comes first

  • Battery Pack: Coverage includes all components inside the high-voltage battery and 70% or more of the battery capacity for 8 years or 175,000 miles, whichever comes first

  • Drivetrain: Coverage includes the drivetrain and components for 8 years or 175,000 miles, whichever comes first

  • Corrosion (Perforation): Body panels that are perforated by corrosion will be covered for 8 years with unlimited miles

A full list of warranty coverage will be located in the Warranty Guide prior to production vehicles being available for purchase.

What is the warranty coverage on a new Rivian? - Support Center - Rivian

Charged EVs | Samsung SDI to be Rivian’s battery cell supplier - Charged EVs

I have to say that the OEMs in Detroit as well as Tesla need to pay attention as Rivian is offering a far superior auto warranty over any of them.

Link to post
Share on other sites

According to CHARGED EV Mag web site, Taiga Motors is building a new assembly plant in Quebec for all it's off-road EVs from Snow mobiles to Personal Watercraft.

image.png

Charged EVs | Taiga Motors to build new assembly facility for its off-road EVs in Québec - Charged EVs

Taiga - Electric Snowmobiles and PWCs (taigamotors.ca)

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Seems Hyundai is paying attention to Toyota Hybrid line as the 2022 Hyundai Tucson Hybrid seems to hit all the right notes.

First drive review: 2022 Hyundai Tucson Hybrid superiority extends beyond gas mileage (greencarreports.com)

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.




About us

CheersandGears.com - Founded 2001

We ♥ Cars

Get in touch

Follow us

Recent tweets

facebook

×
×
  • Create New...