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My wife currently has MDX Sport Hybrid.  It is a mild hybrid with small battery, so it can't go far or fast on pure electric, but when it rolls on electric power there is no substantial sound coming out from the drivetrain.  There is though a weird humming, song like sound, I guess to warn that car is rolling on electric power.  It stops as soon as you stop and put it in park or when the engine kicks in.  I have to say Hybrid MDX feels substantially quieter and more refined than regular MDX (it also has 7-speed dual clutch transmission vs regular 9-speed, which clunkier).  It also more powerful and faster which doesn't hurt either :)

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3 hours ago, balthazar said:

I guess; I could not find online if/how much it is rated to go on pure B power. Maybe it doesn't work that way, and just uses the B in very limited conditions rather than in steady intervals. Not that toyoters are known to be either refined or quiet...

Various web sites say 5 miles on a full charge. Hybrid system is more for added Motivation than for running pure ev mode.

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Yet it comes up the uphill driveway, turn the 90-degrees to enter the garage, stops as the door finishes going up, engine stops. Then it rolls forward under what is obviously electric-only power (no engine noise). Seems a strange system.

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13 hours ago, balthazar said:

Yet it comes up the uphill driveway, turn the 90-degrees to enter the garage, stops as the door finishes going up, engine stops. Then it rolls forward under what is obviously electric-only power (no engine noise). Seems a strange system.

Probably electric motors not powerful enough to pull the car uphill but on a level surface it was ok to go on electric only.

My wife's car has similar system.  The electric motors mostly assist in acceleration and engine shuts off only at slow speed.  It was great though in heavy traffic we were one time during a road trip.  Got few miles rolling on pure electric.  Engine only occasionally would turn on to recharge battery, the whole family was inside with AC and other electronics on and pulling power.

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Just asked her: she said it operates on full electric at very slow crawl speeds: in & out of garage, or stop-n-go in city traffic. Not often.

 

EDIT :: Just read that her car is among a bunch of toyoters up for a recall to replace the entire engine.

"Toyoter - a billion recalled and still counting!"

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Interesting read counter-pointing the common narrative.
Worth noting is the real estate required for 'renewable' energy; something I hadn't thought of.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2020/02/17/if-they-are-so-alarmed-by-climate-change-why-are-they-so-opposed-to-solving-it/#38ea83766b75

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23 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Interesting read counter-pointing the common narrative.
Worth noting is the real estate required for 'renewable' energy; something I hadn't thought of.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2020/02/17/if-they-are-so-alarmed-by-climate-change-why-are-they-so-opposed-to-solving-it/#38ea83766b75

Thank you for posting this. All three mentioned are nuts!

I am all for reducing global warming, but Nuclear and Natural Gas has contributed big time to this by killing off Coal which is even worse.

Wind, Solar and Hydro is Great, but cannot solve everyone's need for power and as such, Nuclear and Natural Gas are good alternatives till we perfect the efficiencies of Solar, Wind and Hydro.

The real estate is an excellent area that has not been discussed as much as it should.

We also have not really realized the power that can be harnessed by using solar collection in space and then focused beams of energy down to earth to be used by the population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power

https://www.energy.gov/articles/space-based-solar-power

Some additional interesting food for thought.

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Is that Forbes article for real?

I did not read it fully aas I stopped because I saw some pretty ridiculous stuff in it. Greta and Sanders may or may not be nuts, fake alarmists or just plain naive. Or they could even be correct...I aint debating that part of that article. I am dumbfounded though on the downplaying of nuclear...   I saw that it defends hydro-electric power and questions those who oppose it, but I aint here to debate that either...again...its the nuclear part that caught my eye...)

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Before progressives were apocalyptic about climate change they were apocalyptic about nuclear energy. Then, after the Cold War ended, and the threat of nuclear war declined radically, they found a new vehicle for their secular apocalypse in the form of climate change. 

Though nuclear energy has prevented the premature deaths of nearly two million people by reducing air pollution, and though nuclear weapons have contributed to the Long Peace since World War II, many people remain phobic of the technology.

 

 

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It is impossible that Sanders, Thunberg, and Extinction Rebellion missed the extensive news media coverage of rising emissions, pollution deaths, and electricity prices in Germany and Japan after they closed their nuclear plants and replaced them with fossil fuels

 

1. WW3 is said to have be avoided by the slimmest of margins back in '62. If not WW3, then a nuclear war between the US and the USSR for sure...  

The cold war ended sometime in the 1980s or even the 1990s, but nuclear war is always at high alert as the US is NOT the sole owner of nuclear warheads. It be cool had it only been between the US and the USSR.  But as we all know, from the 1970s all through to 2020...and beyond, more and more nations have discovered the power of splitting atoms to use as a weapon against fellow humanity...  And that threat today does not end with rogue nations as we in the West like to call them like maybe North Korea or Iran...but by a gang of freedom fighters fighting for whatever cause they want to fight for against anybody or nation or innocent people they deem necessary for revenge... 

But war has NOTHING to do with renewable energy sources...

BUT IT DOES EVENTUALLY...and hence why people maybe afraid of nuclear powerplants...

Those two quotes CASUALLY IGNORE the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster.  It COMPLETELY FORGETS past Nuclear reactor meltdowns, (3 Mile Island and Chernobyl) but those 3 events CLEARLY spook us humans. And those were human and natural disaster ERRORS...

In a time of war...nuclear power plants could be used against a people in a region by PURPOSEFULLY destroying these power plants and nuclear waste and radiation would leak destroying EVERYTHING around that powerplant for many many years...THAT would be the SAME as a nuclear war, but the result would NOT be by nuclear war heads being dropped, but by a nuclear power plant being destroyed...

ALSO...

NUCLEAR WASTE...

The article does NOT mention NUCLEAR WASTE.  It talks about the environment and goes into hydro-electric stuff by defending it where as some greenies oppose the flooding etc...but again...in the same breath...the article does NOT mention what are we to do with all that NUCLEAR WASTE...

If real estate is a focal point in defending and attacking various tree huggers trying to defend nuclear power plants...

Maybe defending nuclear power plants may NOT be the way to go....

I get what the article is trying to do....trying to make Greta and Sanders look like hypocrites...but the article attacking all those greenies like Greta and Sanders is hypocritical itself...  It aint doing the author any favours.  The author looks just as hypocritical and foolish...

Just My Humble Opinion Though...   which may or may NOT be that humble...

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Ideally, nobody would use coal for anything.  I would rather keep nuclear power and reprocess the waste rather than foolishly shut the plants down.  Reducing fossil fuel usage is a good thing not because of the environment, but because of the geopolitics.  Better to minimize sources that come from unstable parts of our world than depend on same unstable parts of the world.  Electrifying everything in our society will reduce the need for foreign sources of power, which should make the USA more secure than ever.

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What are the costs related to reprocessing nuclear waste?

Is it worth it?

How dangerous is it?

Nuclear power plants, no matter how we want to downplay the dangers, nuclear power plants are risky AF.  Recycling and reprocessing the waste, is it just as risky?   I know storing the waste is risky AF...

I also know by reprocessing nuclear waste, the recuperated uranium, thorium  could be re-used...but...like I said,  no matter how we want to downplay the dangers, nuclear power plants are risky AF...

There is no simple solution. 

It seems no matter what kind of energy source we want to use to power our lives with, it screws with the environment and our welfare either way. Therefore, instead of trying to make one side of any argument look ridiculous, we should try to fix the damned problem.  But that is impossible to do as in any case for or against any solution, many ass40les in all cases have hidden monetary agendas...including that Forbes article on top.

 

 

 

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RE real estate : if there's any wide-spread move to nationalize energy (not saying there is, but some do advocate for it)... wind & solar panel farms take up considerable real estate already. Bumping things to a national supply level would add 100s of millions of acres to the Gov't's already 100s of millions of acres. Naturally, this will involve a considerable degree of buying private lands, esp WRT the wind generation.

Every acre the federal Gov't buys is 1 more acre taken OFF the tax rolls. Since the Prime Directive of Big Gov't is revenue streaming, where does the tax burden of the now non-taxable acreage go?

To the private land owners.

Currently, the Fed owns 640 millions acres.
Total gov't land ownership (fed & state) is 40% of the U.S..
Maybe Gov't already owns enough land to not have to buy more (tho Gov't always is).

Another point to consider...

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5 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

What are the costs related to reprocessing nuclear waste?

Is it worth it?

How dangerous is it?

Nuclear power plants, no matter how we want to downplay the dangers, nuclear power plants are risky AF.  Recycling and reprocessing the waste, is it just as risky?   I know storing the waste is risky AF...

I also know by reprocessing nuclear waste, the recuperated uranium, thorium  could be re-used...but...like I said,  no matter how we want to downplay the dangers, nuclear power plants are risky AF...

There is no simple solution. 

It seems no matter what kind of energy source we want to use to power our lives with, it screws with the environment and our welfare either way. Therefore, instead of trying to make one side of any argument look ridiculous, we should try to fix the damned problem.  But that is impossible to do as in any case for or against any solution, many ass40les in all cases have hidden monetary agendas...including that Forbes article on top.

 

 

 

Living in a state that is all Green energy production and has an ugly black eye with the Tri-City Hanford Nuclear processing plant which has plenty of Nuclear waste, I get the waste issue is huge. We do have a way to nutralize it, but need more money to build bigger furnaces that changes the Nuclear Waste liquid into a solid glass that can then safely be buried under ground.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hanford-Engineer-Works

https://www.hanford.gov/

https://www.livescience.com/62623-radioactive-waste-trapped-in-glass.html

https://www.hanfordvitplant.com/

Currently we have the Nations 56 million gallons of Nuclear waste sitting in above ground and under ground tanks that are starting to leak. :( As such, we do need to figure out a way to address the Nuclear waste before we move forward with building more Nuclear plants.

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Latest Tear down of a brand new Tesla 3 shows that Tesla has 6 years on VW or Toyota in EV design / technology.

https://electrek.co/2020/02/17/tesla-teardown-6-years-lead-over-toyota-vw/

An interesting read about supply chain and how Nikkie is saying that they auto companies worry about the parts suppliers. Right, GM already moved to an AI based high speed nervous system that does not have multiple ECU's, as such they are probably the most to be on par with Tesla.

With Norway being so EV heavy, fuel station owners are converging to see how they are able to stay open and make a profit.

https://electrek.co/2020/02/17/fuel-retail-chains-are-visiting-norway-to-ponder-a-future-when-gas-stations-dont-exist/

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Toyoter is pretty busy replacing complete frames and engines to spend much time on engineering. If they had to design/ build the prius now, it’d take longer than the 10 years it took tesla to hit the #1 fastest growing vehicle segment.

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7 hours ago, dfelt said:

Living in a state that is all Green energy production and has an ugly black eye with the Tri-City Hanford Nuclear processing plant which has plenty of Nuclear waste, I get the waste issue is huge. We do have a way to nutralize it, but need more money to build bigger furnaces that changes the Nuclear Waste liquid into a solid glass that can then safely be buried under ground.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hanford-Engineer-Works

https://www.hanford.gov/

https://www.livescience.com/62623-radioactive-waste-trapped-in-glass.html

https://www.hanfordvitplant.com/

Currently we have the Nations 56 million gallons of Nuclear waste sitting in above ground and under ground tanks that are starting to leak. :( As such, we do need to figure out a way to address the Nuclear waste before we move forward with building more Nuclear plants.

Am I glowing yet?

 

Yes we should address nuclear waste.  Reprocessing the waste to create more electricity would do wonders for that problem.

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Seems EV Charge Point and NATSO (National Association of Truck Stop Owners) have come to terms to install 4,000 rapid charge charge-points across America at the truck stops. This will be also incorporate Appendix D of the VW settlement of matching the investment and charge points. So technically they could end up with double or 8,000 charge points at the truck stops.

Chargepoint will be project managing this over the next decade for completion by 2030.

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/chargepoint-and-truck-stop-owners-partner-on-ev-charging/

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Autoblog caught mostly uncovered the new Mercedes-Benz EQA and EQB EV CUVs.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/20/mb-eqa-eqb-spy-photos/#slide-2210768

MB seems to be following their same Blah jelly bean styling of these auto's, should blend in with the ICE side of the family.

The Story also states that the EQC on sale in North America will not happen now till some time in early 2021 at the earliest. It is believed to be due to the construction of a Battery assembly line in the US holding up the EQC from going on sale here.

Cost of shipping an EQC here is much higher for some reason, could be due to the weight.

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BMW seems to be moving faster on getting all their products Hybrid PHEV as they introduce for sale their new RWD/AWD 330e sedan.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/20/bmw-330e-touring-xdrive-awd-rwd-phev/

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Seems Green Car Reports is stating that GM plans to reveal the first Cadillac Electric vehicle this April. We get to see the Hummer by GMC EV Truck in May. We will get more information in March about their new BEV3 platform.

GM also just announced that their auto apps will report dynamic real time status from EVgo and ChargePoint charging along with if a station is available.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1127179_gm-adds-real-time-charging-station-smarts-via-app-to-chevy-bolt-ev

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1 hour ago, dfelt said:

BMW seems to be moving faster on getting all their products Hybrid PHEV as they introduce for sale their new RWD/AWD 330e sedan.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/20/bmw-330e-touring-xdrive-awd-rwd-phev/

Didn't they have a 330e last gen or out already? I know somebody with one but I don't know what year it is. I think it's only rated 20-something EV miles but it's easily exceeded. 

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1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

Didn't they have a 330e last gen or out already? I know somebody with one but I don't know what year it is. I think it's only rated 20-something EV miles but it's easily exceeded. 

Yes. they had a couple..the Active Hybrid 3 with a hybrid 6 cyl (2012-2015), replaced by the 330e w/ a hybrid 4 cyl (2015-2018).  Not sure if I've ever seen one.   Looks like the current generation has one also, a 330e iPerformance w/ a plugin hybrid turbo 4.

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4 minutes ago, balthazar said:

All BMW's past EV or electric-assisted / hybrids have bombed.

As they say with investments, 'past performance is not indicative of future results'.

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