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17 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

How was your week? I took this out for a spin. 

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And your feeling on driving this controversial styled Supera is .............

16 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

16 Cylinders of Duramax Diesel Power!

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GMC is so much better looking than the Chevrolet. No wonder Chevy is in 3rd place. 😢

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@Robert Hall I gave you a thumbs up for Ann Arbor.  Had that been Urbana-Champaign, IL, I wouldn't have.

Today I saw a 1979 Cutlass Supreme coupe in a supermarket lot.  It was navy blue.  It had wheel covers and no power convenience options; however, it was air conditioned.  Probably a 3.8 V6 but most likely the small Olds V8.  It was in excellent condition, save a bumper that was bent downward.  The guy, probably the original owner, was already too close to the store and I was getting into my car. 

That sled has done 40 years of motoring.  That's how long the QE2 sailed for Cunard!

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I've driven past the For Sale '84/85 Olds 98 diesel 4dr 4 times this week, really sharp car that will probably be a tough sell.   Dark gray w/ dark gray top. 

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This morning, I was rewarded with a nice sighting to the left of me in the fast lane on the freeway.  It was an all black Chevy SS sedan.  I don't like black vehicles owing to their visibility at night but it looked sharp on this car.  For one, I realized how nice the rear light fascia is when this sport sedan is in motion.

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Wouldn't it be a drag if you won a contest and the prize was a brand new Chevy SS ... and then the prize arrives, but the steering wheel is on the "wrong" side?

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• '67 Cutlass sedan, factory A/C, given for free to my buddy.
• Circa '71 Cadillac in Midas.
• This gen Ramcharger used to be all over.
• Flower car had a huge portrait of the deceased on the roof. Never saw that before.
 

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@balthazarThe funeral Cadillac, last picture with the picture on top is a very traditional Asian culture thing. There spirit gets a final ride to their resting place by doing this. 

Kinda weird but old folks and superstition. 

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@balthazar I'm not chuckling at the hearse, but just chuckling at all the different conversions Cadillacs are subjected to to make hearses out of them.  I believe I may have even seen Cadillac hearses in Europe, IIRC.

@dfelt I believe it.  All the organized religions and their denizens have conventions and traditions at birth, in the teen years, upon marrying, and at death.  We had them growing up.  One convention (not really, just joking) was getting smacked over the knuckles with a ruler by a cantankerous nun.  However, if you're a good student, you get a pass to be a smart aleck every now and then ... and bypass the ruler.  

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Beautiful fall day here in Cleveland...saw a sharp gold '72 Cutlass convertible rolling w/ the top down.  

Went out this evening to see Bruce Springsteen's concert film 'Western Stars' (beautiful film, beautiful music) and parked next to a Gladiator Rubicon at the theatre...first I'd seen in the wild.

There was a great Jeep Wrangler ad before the film..

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3 deep waiting,  seems to be backlogged at this Fred Meyers Tesla Charging station. This is pretty common here be it Tesla or the generic charging stations. You have a major shop point, variety of food places and other retail. Makes it easy to charge, shop, eat and go.

FYI: Behind these Tesla's are a huge 5000 Apartment complex and many are Tesla Owners, so I am sure this is a major recharge point for them.

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• The Tesla station by me is at a Panera, but the only other anything nearby is Costco & Target... but they're a hike apart. You're not going to get a shopping cart of bulks and wheel it all the way over to your cabled car.

• I don't like that refueling your vehicle 'strongly encourages' you to engage in commerce to avoid boredom.

• Wonder how the potential decade-long rolling blackouts in CA will affect EV sales there, Guess they can always install diesel generators at every station to power the 'chargers. 😉

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46 minutes ago, balthazar said:

• The Tesla station by me is at a Panera, but the only other anything nearby is Costco & Target... but they're a hike apart. You're not going to get a shopping cart of bulks and wheel it all the way over to your cabled car.

• I don't like that refueling your vehicle 'strongly encourages' you to engage in commerce to avoid boredom.

• Wonder how the potential decade-long rolling blackouts in CA will affect EV sales there, Guess they can always install diesel generators at every station to power the 'chargers. 😉

To your second statement, isn’t that what convenience stores with gas pumps are selling? Convenience Stores are commerce too so I don’t see how this approach (said charging station) is any different from that approach (convenience stores with gas pumps). 

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When I 'gas up', it takes maybe 5 mins. If I were to leave my vehicle, walking into the store, pick out a snack, pay & walk back, my vehicle is likely refueled & waiting. That means others may well be waiting on me to get my chimmi-chunga back to the vehicle and out of their way.
When one 'watts up', the owner wanders off and has a sit-down meal because they have 20-30-40 mins to waste. There's TIME to shop because there's a long period of inactive boredom to relieve. The 'refueling' time 'encourages' you to pay even more money.

Yes; you are not required to. You can sit in your car, stare at your phone. Or nap if you want/are sleepy. Or you can walk laps of the parking lot. All idle things... because you are WAITING. Or you can open your wallet.

It wouldn't be 'any different' if an EV charged in 5 mins.

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I rarely ever go in the store when I get gas... pay at the pump, usually less than 5 minutes.  A quick task.  Recharging an EV at a charging station would be far less convenient.   Now a home charger, I could see that being advantageous.  

And location, location, location...the nearest gas station is maybe 1/2 mile, and I probably have 1/2 dozen more within a mile or two.    The nearest ChargePoint charging station (J1772) is 7 miles, the nearest CHAdeMO station is over 6 miles.  The nearest Telsa Supercharger station is 10 miles.   Not practical in my reality context.

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3 hours ago, balthazar said:

When I 'gas up', it takes maybe 5 mins. If I were to leave my vehicle, walking into the store, pick out a snack, pay & walk back, my vehicle is likely refueled & waiting. That means others may well be waiting on me to get my chimmi-chunga back to the vehicle and out of their way.
When one 'watts up', the owner wanders off and has a sit-down meal because they have 20-30-40 mins to waste. There's TIME to shop because there's a long period of inactive boredom to relieve. The 'refueling' time 'encourages' you to pay even more money.

Yes; you are not required to. You can sit in your car, stare at your phone. Or nap if you want/are sleepy. Or you can walk laps of the parking lot. All idle things... because you are WAITING. Or you can open your wallet.

It wouldn't be 'any different' if an EV charged in 5 mins.

Question. Can you fill up your gas tank at home?

 

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7 hours ago, balthazar said:

• The Tesla station by me is at a Panera, but the only other anything nearby is Costco & Target... but they're a hike apart. You're not going to get a shopping cart of bulks and wheel it all the way over to your cabled car.

• I don't like that refueling your vehicle 'strongly encourages' you to engage in commerce to avoid boredom.

• Wonder how the potential decade-long rolling blackouts in CA will affect EV sales there, Guess they can always install diesel generators at every station to power the 'chargers. 😉

In regards to the third statement, that is why most charging points also have solar power panels. The ability to still work even when brown outs stop allowing gas pumps to operate.

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I forgot this one.  Yesterday, in my local Starbucks's parking lot, I saw a new or fairly new Dodge Charger with temporary plates parked there, with the driver on his phone.  It was the lime green, like you'd have in your Hot Wheels collection when you were a kid.  On a Charger, this color works.  The badge on the side said "392" and it was idling, but displayed no weird cam/lifter noise.  It was fairly hushed.  His windows were heavily tinted.  So I pointed it at his sled and gave him the "okay" sign with my hand.  He nodded in appreciation.

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Going through Dunkin Donuts this morning I had a yellow Challenger Hellcat Redeye behind me..nice rumble.  Guy w/ white hair and beard, was blasting ZZTop.. 

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11 hours ago, dfelt said:

...most charging points also have solar power panels.

‘Most’ in your area maybe. Not here. 

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again... people should only be using superchargers when they have less range than it will take them to get home. It is an entirely wrong mindset to unplug your car from your house, go to Mejier or whatever, plug in there, and go shopping.  Even a Leaf with 110 mile range can handle all of the shopping in a single day without having to recharge.

It gets worse if they are paying to recharge (Like most of those Model-3s probably are), it costs more to charge up at a public station than it does to charge up at home. 

The only way I can see having to do this is if you live in an apartment complex and not have access to a charger at home. A friend of mine with a Volt does that, but he has a charger at work, so he charges up until its time for lunch and then goes out and moves his car.  With the ~7 mile commute he has, he almost never uses gasoline in the Volt. 

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1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

again... people should only be using superchargers when they have less range than it will take them to get home. It is an entirely wrong mindset to unplug your car from your house, go to Mejier or whatever, plug in there, and go shopping.  Even a Leaf with 110 mile range can handle all of the shopping in a single day without having to recharge.

It gets worse if they are paying to recharge (Like most of those Model-3s probably are), it costs more to charge up at a public station than it does to charge up at home. 

The only way I can see having to do this is if you live in an apartment complex and not have access to a charger at home. A friend of mine with a Volt does that, but he has a charger at work, so he charges up until its time for lunch and then goes out and moves his car.  With the ~7 mile commute he has, he almost never uses gasoline in the Volt. 

Added an FYI, behind in the picture is a major apartment complex, 5000 units and many Tesla owners, so this charge station is always busy like this.

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